Climate Change is a Lie.

[slewfan]

Climate ‘scientists’ discover they’ve been underestimating a major factor, and all their climate models are in fact wrongDecember 10, 2024 by Olivia MurrayThis begs the question: What else are they missing? More

[slewfan]

Truth be told...

Real Science and the Earth's Magnietic FieldPete ColanNASA seems intent on ignoring the very real possibility that fluctuations in the earth’s magnetic field have anything to do with “today’s climate change.” More


“The magnetic field changes in a chaotic manner, and we do not know why it changes in the way it does nor how it will evolve in the future… There is no periodic behavior, and it is therefore rather difficult, if not impossible, to predict how the magnetic field evolves over time. We can just observe how it has changed in past and what it looks like today.”

[mcaulay777]

But remember it is not a lie if you believe it!

[slewfan]

LOL

[TheGoldenGoose]

Ocean levels have been rising for hundreds of thousands of years.

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Ocean levels have been rising for hundreds of thousands of years.

Thanks Dr Goose.

Despite that not being true, are you thinking that is somehow proof that man can not affect the climate?


You don't even need to be smart to nut out this stuff for yourself. Just not willfully dumb.

[TheGoldenGoose]

@ Optional

Don't put words in my mouth sir. It's quite obvious that man made CO2 has escalated the planet warming process. I never said otherwise. Now, go back to bed, get up on the other side Mr Grumpy, and bring something meaningful back to the breakfast table.

[Optional]

@ Optional

Don't put words in my mouth sir. It's quite obvious that man made CO2 has escalated the planet warming process. I never said otherwise. Now, go back to bed, get up on the other side Mr Grumpy, and bring something meaningful back to the breakfast table.

So climate change isn't a lie you say now???

Neither you or Slewfan posted many words, and if you check what I wrote it addresses exactly what your words say.



What is this thread saying? Anyone who posted in it care to explain? Seems like a group of people actively making each other a little dumber with each comment to me.

Don't hate on the people who want to protect the environment if they can, and root for the corporations that want environmental restrictions on them removed. It's crazy to keep this stuff up.


That said, if you have any genuine evidence "Climate Change Is A Hoax" I'd love to hear it. I hate being hoaxed too.

[TheGoldenGoose]

Thanks Dr Goose.
Despite that not being true, are you thinking that is somehow proof that man can not affect the climate?
You don't even need to be smart to nut out this stuff for yourself. Just not willfully dumb.

Eustatic sea level curve for the last 900,000 years. Sea levels are plotted relative to modern mean sea level. As you can observe in these graphs, sea level has been highly variable and “periodic” with sea levels higher during warm periods and low during cold periods. In fact, sea levels about 18,000 years ago were as much as 120 meters below present.

https://www.e-education.psu.edu/earth107/node/1506

I'll try to find another article link I came across one time. There are building block structures off the coast of Japan that are some 70 meters under sea level. Obviously constructed by an ancient civilization. So, yes, ocean waters have indeed been rising for thousands of years. And the Republican sheep who parrot Fox News and AM talk radio imbeciles ranting that man made climate change is impossible are the literal ostriches with heads stuck in sand.

[DwightShrute]

Thanks Dr Goose.

Despite that not being true, are you thinking that is somehow proof that man can not affect the climate?


You don't even need to be smart to nut out this stuff for yourself. Just not willfully dumb.

True or false?

The climate has always been changing?

Man can affect the climate?

Both things are true as we all know.

[slewfan]

So climate change isn't a lie you say now???

Neither you or Slewfan posted many words, and if you check what I wrote it addresses exactly what your words say.



What is this thread saying? Anyone who posted in it care to explain? Seems like a group of people actively making each other a little dumber with each comment to me.

Don't hate on the people who want to protect the environment if they can, and root for the corporations that want environmental restrictions on them removed. It's crazy to keep this stuff up.


That said, if you have any genuine evidence "Climate Change Is A Hoax" I'd love to hear it. I hate being hoaxed too.

The Climate alway's changes. I've said it at least half dozen times. But this crap with Windmills, Electric Cars, Gas Stoves ETC is all a scam for the criminals to fleece the people.

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Eustatic sea level curve for the last 900,000 years. Sea levels are plotted relative to modern mean sea level. As you can observe in these graphs, sea level has been highly variable and “periodic” with sea levels higher during warm periods and low during cold periods. In fact, sea levels about 18,000 years ago were as much as 120 meters below present.

https://www.e-education.psu.edu/earth107/node/1506

I'll try to find another article link I came across one time. There are building block structures off the coast of Japan that are some 70 meters under sea level. Obviously constructed by an ancient civilization. So, yes, ocean waters have indeed been rising for thousands of years. And the Republican sheep who parrot Fox News and AM talk radio imbeciles ranting that man made climate change is impossible are the literal ostriches with heads stuck in sand.

As I said, your proposition that the ocean level has been rising constantly was incorrect. That wasn't even worth arguing about it was so unimportant to the debate. But you seem to think it is??

So let's go again... please explain the point of this quote?

Are you really trying to double down on your incorrect claim and continue to use it as some sort of proof "climate change is a hoax"?

True or false?

The climate has always been changing?

Man can affect the climate?

Both things are true as we all know.

True.

Now you... is your question Relevant to the claim, or not?

One word answers only, same as you demanded and got.



Let's see how intellectually honest you really are Dwight.

The Climate alway's changes. I've said it at least half dozen times. But this crap with Windmills, Electric Cars, Gas Stoves ETC is all a scam for the criminals to fleece the people.

Ok mate.

Lucky we have guys like you around to warn all of the low IQ people like Kamala and myself to the outrageous corruption.

Man, it would be a little more convincing with some stats instead or the oft repeated rhetoric like this though. Easy to make claims without ever being forced to explain the proof.

Bearing in mind how long electric cars have been around (125 years+) I expect to see some slam dunk inarguable real life examples of how this scam has played out to actually accept it for myself though. (and I am not a fan of electric car legislation forcing us to drop gas cars)

[slewfan]

As I said, your proposition that the ocean level has been rising constantly was incorrect. That wasn't even worth arguing about it was so unimportant to the debate. But you seem to think it is??

So let's go again... please explain the point of this quote?

Are you really trying to double down on your incorrect claim and continue to use it as some sort of proof "climate change is a hoax"?






True.

Now you... is your question Relevant to the claim, or not?

One word answers only, same as you demanded and got.



Let's see how intellectually honest you really are Dwight.



Ok mate.

Lucky we have guys like you around to warn all of the low IQ people like Kamala and myself to the outrageous corruption.

Man, it would be a little more convincing with some stats instead or the oft repeated rhetoric like this though. Easy to make claims without ever being forced to explain the proof.

Bearing in mind how long electric cars have been around (125 years+) I expect to see some slam dunk inarguable real life examples of how this scam has played out to actually accept it for myself though. (and I am not a fan of electric car legislation forcing us to drop gas cars)

OK, whatever you say Opti. That's the Law.!.

Merry Christmas

[DwightShrute]

As I said, your proposition that the ocean level has been rising constantly was incorrect. That wasn't even worth arguing about it was so unimportant to the debate. But you seem to think it is??

So let's go again... please explain the point of this quote?

Are you really trying to double down on your incorrect claim and continue to use it as some sort of proof "climate change is a hoax"?






True.

Now you... is your question Relevant to the claim, or not?

One word answers only, same as you demanded and got.



Let's see how intellectually honest you really are Dwight.



Ok mate.

Lucky we have guys like you around to warn all of the low IQ people like Kamala and myself to the outrageous corruption.

Man, it would be a little more convincing with some stats instead or the oft repeated rhetoric like this though. Easy to make claims without ever being forced to explain the proof.

Bearing in mind how long electric cars have been around (125 years+) I expect to see some slam dunk inarguable real life examples of how this scam has played out to actually accept it for myself though. (and I am not a fan of electric car legislation forcing us to drop gas cars)

Speaking of intellectual honestly, I didn't "demand" a one word answer. True or false with a explanation is great. That's never changed.

If you demand a one word answer, then ok. Yes.

[TheGoldenGoose]

@ Opti

Once again you bring nothing to the discussion table. Except laughter. For which I am truly very grateful. Laughter nurtures the soul. As another SBR calendar year concludes I wish all my SBR Brothers and Sisters a happy and healthy 2025 and please remember to laugh heartily at least once each and every day!
Cheers Mates!!!

[jackpot269]

The Climate alway's changes. I've said it at least half dozen times. But this crap with Windmills, Electric Cars, Gas Stoves ETC is all a scam for the criminals to fleece the people.

I knew Elon Musk was a scammer, with his electric cars. A criminal fleecing the people. Thanks for confirmation Slew.
Just look at the company he keeps.

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Speaking of intellectual honestly, I didn't "demand" a one word answer. True or false with a explanation is great. That's never changed.

If you demand a one word answer, then ok. Yes.

I don't think you can find any way to equate 'man can affect the climate' with 'climate change is a hoax'.


The climate is changing.

Man made pollutants do have an impact on that. Whether there is cyclic activity as well or not.


The only reason Slew is still trying to claim climate change is a hoax is political.

he and you have been co-opted to argue for corporations to be derestricted from protecting the environment to make more profit.


That is the real hoax. That you have been tricked into protecting corporate profits instead of the people and our world.

[DwightShrute]

I don't think you can find any way to equate 'man can affect the climate' with 'climate change is a hoax'.


The climate is changing.

Man made pollutants do have an impact on that. Whether there is cyclic activity as well or not.


The only reason Slew is still trying to claim climate change is a hoax is political.

he and you have been co-opted to argue for corporations to be derestricted from protecting the environment to make more profit.


That is the real hoax. That you have been tricked into protecting corporate profits instead of the people and our world.

I get all that corporate stuff you mention. Right now oil companies are being fined what they do and tabaco companies as well. My point is what is absolute? What is a hoax? We all know the 97% of all scientist who said global warming is man was a hoax. Yet people still quote it. The Maldives would be under water years ago they told us but they aren't. Banks are still giving out mortgages to oceanside properties. We all know that scientists said there's a new ice age coming in the 70's. We all know there was no insurrection on J6 but people still say there was. We all know that building such as Building 7 in NY just don't fall by themselves or 2 huge towers don't collapse like they did on 9/11. We all know that Trump never colluded with Russia. Don't even get me started on Covid. The list goes on and on about so many hoaxes.

Call me skeptical about climate change being man-made. I answered yes because you wanted a yes or no. Yes, its not as they are telling us, yes climate has always happened, yes we are contributing to climate change and yes we should be better stewards of the Earth. Maybe, I am a radical in your eyes, but I am the opposite actually.

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I get all that corporate stuff you mention. Right now oil companies are being fined what they do and tabaco companies as well. My point is what is absolute? What is a hoax? We all know the 97% of all scientist who said global warming is man was a hoax. Yet people still quote it. The Maldives would be under water years ago they told us but they aren't. Banks are still giving out mortgages to oceanside properties. We all know that scientists said there's a new ice age coming in the 70's. We all know there was no insurrection on J6 but people still say there was. We all know that building such as Building 7 in NY just don't fall by themselves or 2 huge towers don't collapse like they did on 9/11. We all know that Trump never colluded with Russia. Don't even get me started on Covid. The list goes on and on about so many hoaxes.

Call me skeptical about climate change being man-made. I answered yes because you wanted a yes or no. Yes, its not as they are telling us, yes climate has always happened, yes we are contributing to climate change and yes we should be better stewards of the Earth. Maybe, I am a radical in your eyes, but I am the opposite actually.

I'm not sure I think you are radical. I do think you are stubbornly partisan. Similar to the way I think pink haired social workers are stubbornly opinionated.

I can respect the passion and accept you both probably truly believe most of what you say. But I also think both of you know better than to think some of the extreme stuff you say is true. And probably just believe it doesn't matter as long as most of it is true and it serves the greater good to pretend the rest is too.


It's a small side issue if scientists try to get funding for wasteful research projects backed up by climate change hysteria.

It's like throwing out the baby with the bath water to continue banging a drum that issues around the climate changing are just a hoax and nothing should be done.

[DwightShrute]

I'm not sure I think you are radical. I do think you are stubbornly partisan. Similar to the way I think pink haired social workers are stubbornly opinionated.

I can respect the passion and accept you both probably truly believe most of what you say. But I also think both of you know better than to think some of the extreme stuff you say is true. And probably just believe it doesn't matter as long as most of it is true and it serves the greater good to pretend the rest is too.


It's a small side issue if scientists try to get funding for wasteful research projects backed up by climate change hysteria.

It's like throwing out the baby with the bath water to continue banging a drum that issues around the climate changing are just a hoax and nothing should be done.

To me, it seems I just don't trust what I am being told by those with a lot of power as you do. I am just more cynical than you.

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To me, it seems I just don't trust what I am being told by those with a lot of power as you do. I am just more cynical than you.

I'm not any more trusting of the powers that be than you. I am just slower to distrust and more comfortable to take the position that I don't know when needed.

[slewfan]

I knew Elon Musk was a scammer, with his electric cars. A criminal fleecing the people. Thanks for confirmation Slew.
Just look at the company he keeps.

You're welcome Jack. Merry Christmas..

But in your haste to show cynicism, you missed the point. I find nothing wrong with the cars themselves. What I do find disturbing is the Democrats trying to force ''THEIR'' will in MAKING you buy one. You get it.?. And making you pay more for it..?.

[DwightShrute]

I'm not any more trusting of the powers that be than you. I am just slower to distrust and more comfortable to take the position that I don't know when needed.

[jackpot269]

You're welcome Jack. Merry Christmas..

But in your haste to show cynicism, you missed the point. I find nothing wrong with the cars themselves. What I do find disturbing is the Democrats trying to force ''THEIR'' will in MAKING you buy one. You get it.?. And making you pay more for it..?.

The biggest cost is the battery, and with the two big finds of lithium in the USA and the one, maybe even bigger in Japan. That should bring the price down. Even if lithium stays the standard.
But there are at least three others with (new technology) expected out the next couple of years.

[jackpot269]

I get all that corporate stuff you mention. Right now oil companies are being fined what they do and tabaco companies as well. My point is what is absolute? What is a hoax? We all know the 97% of all scientist who said global warming is man was a hoax. Yet people still quote it. The Maldives would be under water years ago they told us but they aren't. Banks are still giving out mortgages to oceanside properties. We all know that scientists said there's a new ice age coming in the 70's. We all know there was no insurrection on J6 but people still say there was. We all know that building such as Building 7 in NY just don't fall by themselves or 2 huge towers don't collapse like they did on 9/11. We all know that Trump never colluded with Russia. Don't even get me started on Covid. The list goes on and on about so many hoaxes.

Call me skeptical about climate change being man-made. I answered yes because you wanted a yes or no. Yes, its not as they are telling us, yes climate has always happened, yes we are contributing to climate change and yes we should be better stewards of the Earth. Maybe, I am a radical in your eyes, but I am the opposite actually.

committed to deception

[DwightShrute]

committed to deception

its true. look it up.

Oh sure, you will have celebrities and CNN tell you that its science but remember that these are the same people who believe men can get pregnant and that there are more than 2 genders etc.

[slewfan]

The biggest cost is the battery, and with the two big finds of lithium in the USA and the one, maybe even bigger in Japan. That should bring the price down. Even if lithium stays the standard.
But there are at least three others with (new technology) expected out the next couple of years.

Let's hope we are still around. In the meantime, less government regulation is much better. Wouldn't you say.?

[firstclass]

[jackpot269]

Let's hope we are still around. In the meantime, less government regulation is much better. Wouldn't you say.?

In general, or just on this issue?

[jackpot269]

its true. look it up.

Oh sure, you will have celebrities and CNN tell you that its science but remember that these are the same people who believe men can get pregnant and that there are more than 2 genders etc.

Fact Checking The Claim Of 97% Consensus On Anthropogenic Climate Change

In this article, they are trying to prove that it is not 97% the other way. They conclude its less than 97%, more like 81% agree that it is man caused.
They call Kerry out for his misrepresentation that the 97% he said was man caused, and the papers he used were all peer reviewed. They were not he lied.

[DwightShrute]

Fact Checking The Claim Of 97% Consensus On Anthropogenic Climate Change

In this article, they are trying to prove that it is not 97% the other way. They conclude its less than 97%, more like 81% agree that it is man caused.
They call Kerry out for his misrepresentation that the 97% he said was man caused, and the papers he used were all peer reviewed. They were not he lied.

why isn't it 100%? Do you think that only 81% or whatever % of scientists think gravity is real? I can't cite any poll but I can say with absolute certainty that its 100%.

Have you never heard of studies that are quoted all over the place but it turns out these studies were funded by the same companies looking to sell those products? Come on.

Many scientists are paid to come up with results that prove all sorts of things that aren't quite true or even completely false. If they want funding, they need to say the right things. As the study of migration habits of the brown squirrel as it pertains to climate change, boom you probably get some government money. Leave out climate change, you get fukk all.

He's 100% right. Wake up!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jordan Peterson says &quot;The food pyramid is a scam.&quot; <br>“Is there a worse medical crime in history?”. <br>&quot;This is the worst public health failure of all time.&quot; <a href="https://t.co/6CEMgT9qI5">pic.twitter.com/6CEMgT9qI5</a></p>&mdash; HustleBitch (@HustleBitch_) <a href="https://twitter.com/HustleBitch_/status/1805650172724097466?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >June 25, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[jackpot269]

why isn't it 100%? Do you think that only 81% or whatever % of scientists think gravity is real? I can't cite any poll but I can say with absolute certainty that its 100%.

Have you never heard of studies that are quoted all over the place but it turns out these studies were funded by the same companies looking to sell those products? Come on.

Many scientists are paid to come up with results that prove all sorts of things that aren't quite true or even completely false. If they want funding, they need to say the right things. As the study of migration habits of the brown squirrel as it pertains to climate change, boom you probably get some government money. Leave out climate change, you get fukk all.

He's 100% right. Wake up!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jordan Peterson says &quot;The food pyramid is a scam.&quot; <br>“Is there a worse medical crime in history?”. <br>&quot;This is the worst public health failure of all time.&quot; <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/6CEMgT9qI5">pic.twitter.com/6CEMgT9qI5</a></p>&mdash; HustleBitch (@HustleBitch_) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/HustleBitch_/status/1805650172724097466?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >June 25, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

You never make this argument when the science supports your view. Why? Ever argument you made can work both ways. So, assuming you are correct, it goes both ways.


So, the only way to get funding for research is put climate change in it?



I reject the claim that all scientists have no ethics. That would say they are as bad as politicians.



Your alarm clock is going off again, that snooze is a bitch. I told you several times I know a fix for that.

[DwightShrute]

You never make this argument when the science supports your view. Why? Ever argument you made can work both ways. So, assuming you are correct, it goes both ways.


So, the only way to get funding for research is put climate change in it?



I reject the claim that all scientists have no ethics. That would say they are as bad as politicians.



Your alarm clock is going off again, that snooze is a bitch. I told you several times I know a fix for that.

I don't use that all the time. I do when I look into the argument from both sides and if it smells, then I look further. I am sure you have heard of "follow the money". Phrases like that exist for a reason.

Not the only way to get funding is to attach it to climate change, don't be silly, but it doesn't hurt.

I never said all scientists have no ethics. I never even thought that. While scientist don't always get things right, I don't criticize them for being human. They can only base opinions on what they know. Science isn't a consensus. It either is or isn't based on what we know at the time. Remember that long ago, scientists agreed the Earth was flat, except for one guy. That one guy was right.

[jackpot269]

I don't use that all the time. I do when I look into the argument from both sides and if it smells, then I look further. I am sure you have heard of "follow the money". Phrases like that exist for a reason.

Not the only way to get funding is to attach it to climate change, don't be silly, but it doesn't hurt.

I never said all scientists have no ethics. I never even thought that. While scientist don't always get things right, I don't criticize them for being human. They can only base opinions on what they know. Science isn't a consensus. It either is or isn't based on what we know at the time. Remember that long ago, scientists agreed the Earth was flat, except for one guy. That one guy was right.

The only exact science s math.

[DwightShrute]

The only exact science s math.