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    The biggest fraud ever in the Political Spectrum. Which has now been realized by more than half of Americans.


    ‘Union Joe’ could be losing ground with another core voting bloc

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    B.OA, call me naive but I truly believe that 99.9%+ of companies/businesses hire the best person for the job(unless they're forced not to via AA).

    Perhaps those that feel that they are not getting a fair shake should or should have made themselves more desirable to hire?? (Education, grammar, being presentable etc).

    An example: I recently saw Cam Newton whining about Brady getting a cushy TV gig with little to no experience. First off, Brady was the GOAT QB. Secondly, Brady speaks much better English and is far more presentable. I could go on but Newton currently looks like he has a tree coming out of his head and doesn't publicly speak well enough to be on that type of national stage. Bottom line, do what you have to do to make yourself more desirable to hire rather than cry racism, white man holding me down etc...

    Ha! A guy who laid down and quit in the biggest game of his life or the guy that won 7 of those games? Hmmmmmm. Who do I hire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slewfan View Post
    The biggest fraud ever in the Political Spectrum. Which has now been realized by more than half of Americans.


    ‘Union Joe’ could be losing ground with another core voting bloc

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post

    He's hired thousands of Latinos over the years in his businesses. The first apprentice winner was a Black guy wasn't it? Trump change the laws at the golf course in Mar a lago to allow Blacks.
    Why does it matter? Really?
    What Latino's have Trump or his daddy hired over the years??? I'll wait. Trump and his daddy were notorious for not hiring minorities into management roles. They also would not rent or sell real estate to minorities as well.

    NO! The first apprentice was NOT black. In fact, Trumps senior staff and the producers of the show, ALL recommended the black guy was vastly more credible than the white guy Trump chose. They all said the black guy should have won. Several people heard Trump say that he would not select a "Nig**r). Go look it up, don't take my word for it. But back to my question. As president, Trump appointed ~70 folks to positions. He ended up firing most of them and replaced them. So out of over 100+ he personally chose, HOW MANY WERE BLACK OR LATINO??? Do you really want to know the answer? You don't find that strange?

    I agree with you the best person should get the job, but are you really going to tell me that out of a hundred people, he couldn't find 1 qualified black or Latino? You mentioned DEI and I will tell you that I've consulted companies the last 2 decades on hiring top talent. The companies that succeed ALL have diverse workforces. Why? You need diverse thoughts. If you are in a room full of the same people, your company is in trouble. How do I know? Because I know several that are no longer in business. Same goes for airline pilots. Now, you may think you would prefer a very experienced crew that have all flown together for many years, right? Well, the fact is that you are much more safer with a crew that is not very close to each other, not like each other. Because that group will have people that will 2nd, triple check everything. They are not going to take the word of the other person because they've flown together for many years. You need people that can challenge you to get out of your comfort zone and that comes from people that ARE NOT LIKE YOU. This is why I think Trump has been so horrible in business. He's never listened to the people around him and the people around him are just like him. All yes men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    No idea but if they weren't hired, they probably were not qualified..Some actually want people in jobs that have earned and deserve it.How are the DEI hires working across the country?
    So instead, he hired a bunch of folks that he ended up firing. Does that make him a terrible judge of character? Or is he just bad at hiring people? Maybe he should have hired a few people of color???


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    Many political appointees of Donald Trump, the 45th president of the United States, resigned or were dismissed. Multiple publications have called attention to the record-setting turnover rate in the first year of the Trump Administration.[1][2][3] Several Trump appointees, including National Security Advisor Michael Flynn, White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, White House Communications Director Anthony Scaramucci, and Secretary of Health and Human Services Tom Price have had the shortest service tenures in the history of their respective offices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    How are the DEI hires working across the country?
    I'm not sure you would even understand the meaning of DEI?? I'm sure you've gotten plenty of lessons from Fox but if you really want to have a true discussion...

    DEI is not about black/white. It's definitely not about quotas or affirmative action. Do you know the first DEI case in America? It was about disability and a person in a wheelchair that had wheel their chair into the street to gain access. Every person in this forum, if they live long enough, along with their elderly family members will benefit from DEI legislation that you never even thought about. You may want to think twice before you roll back DEI. We're about to have the largest number of old people in this country as baby boomers get older.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    Agreed but that happens far less often than unqualified minorities getting hired over those(usually white males) that are much more qualified.
    You know what's funny Jake? Unfortunately, there's not a lot of qualified white males. White males are the most entitled group of people in this country. They rarely go for higher education (women are going for more masters and Phds), they are not very innovative and aren't willing to learn, upskill themselves. I've seen a lot of white men get sent home and they mostly have attitudes thinking that they lost their job to a minority or woman because of a quota or affirmative action. That's bullshit, they are losing their jobs because they just aren't very good on the job. Asians and Indians are kicking ass. Shame on our own kids here in the US that are so fukking entitled, they don't work hard. The US government and Companies have to sponsor qualified candidates from somewhere else because we don't have enough talented kids in our own backyard. It's fukking pathetic. Please don't tell me our kids are getting passed over because they are qualified. NO, THEY ARE NOT QUALIFIED AND ARE NOT WORTH A SHIT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldBill View Post
    He said he’d force companies to keep jobs in America, and that there would be consequences for companies that shipped jobs abroad. Since he took office, companies like GE, Carrier, Ford, and Harley Davidson have continued to outsource thousands of jobs.

    He promised to end the opioid crisis. Americans are now more likely to die from an opioid overdose than a car accident.

    He promised to protect American steel jobs. The steel industry continues to lose jobs.

    He promised tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations would spur economic growth and pay for themselves. His tax cuts added $2 trillion to the federal deficit.

    He promised that the many women who accused him of sexual misconduct “will be sued after the election is over.” He hasn’t sued them, presumably because he doesn’t want the truth to come out.

    He promised to bring back all troops from Afghanistan. He now says: “We’ll always have somebody there.”

    He promised to be the voice of the common people. He’s made his rich friends richer, increased the political power of big corporations and the wealthy, and harmed working Americans.
    We had negative oil under Trump. It basically wiped out a lot of businesses and unemployed tens of thousands here in Texas. I don't blame Trump for all of it but it happened under his watch. I had to shift my businesses because oil went into the shitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    You know what's funny Jake? Unfortunately, there's not a lot of qualified white males. White males are the most entitled group of people in this country. They rarely go for higher education (women are going for more masters and Phds), they are not very innovative and aren't willing to learn, upskill themselves. I've seen a lot of white men get sent home and they mostly have attitudes thinking that they lost their job to a minority or woman because of a quota or affirmative action. That's bullshit, they are losing their jobs because they just aren't very good on the job. Asians and Indians are kicking ass. Shame on our own kids here in the US that are so fukking entitled, they don't work hard. The US government and Companies have to sponsor qualified candidates from somewhere else because we don't have enough talented kids in our own backyard. It's fukking pathetic. Please don't tell me our kids are getting passed over because they are qualified. NO, THEY ARE NOT QUALIFIED AND ARE NOT WORTH A SHIT.
    Choosing 1 field like doctors and tech people that many minorities excel at does not prove your point. The thousands of other trades, white men have far greater numbers, therefore there are more qualified whites than minorities. You are just a racist pos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    Why does it matter? Really?
    What Latino's have Trump or his daddy hired over the years??? I'll wait. Trump and his daddy were notorious for not hiring minorities into management roles. They also would not rent or sell real estate to minorities as well.

    NO! The first apprentice was NOT black. In fact, Trumps senior staff and the producers of the show, ALL recommended the black guy was vastly more credible than the white guy Trump chose. They all said the black guy should have won. Several people heard Trump say that he would not select a "Nig**r). Go look it up, don't take my word for it. But back to my question. As president, Trump appointed ~70 folks to positions. He ended up firing most of them and replaced them. So out of over 100+ he personally chose, HOW MANY WERE BLACK OR LATINO??? Do you really want to know the answer? You don't find that strange?

    I agree with you the best person should get the job, but are you really going to tell me that out of a hundred people, he couldn't find 1 qualified black or Latino? You mentioned DEI and I will tell you that I've consulted companies the last 2 decades on hiring top talent. The companies that succeed ALL have diverse workforces. Why? You need diverse thoughts. If you are in a room full of the same people, your company is in trouble. How do I know? Because I know several that are no longer in business. Same goes for airline pilots. Now, you may think you would prefer a very experienced crew that have all flown together for many years, right? Well, the fact is that you are much more safer with a crew that is not very close to each other, not like each other. Because that group will have people that will 2nd, triple check everything. They are not going to take the word of the other person because they've flown together for many years. You need people that can challenge you to get out of your comfort zone and that comes from people that ARE NOT LIKE YOU. This is why I think Trump has been so horrible in business. He's never listened to the people around him and the people around him are just like him. All yes men.
    OK Season 1 the runner up was a Black guy and season 4 a Black guy won. My mistake. I don't care about the color of the skin but I knew there was a winner.

    Trump hires many Latinos who work in his properties all over the place.

    Trump and his dad didn't want to rent to people on welfare because it was hard to collect rent, not because they were Black as the fake news media keep saying.

    Why should Trump or anyone else "try and find one Black or Latino?" WTF?

    Devin Nunes is a Latino and politician who is chief executive officer of the Trump Media & Technology Group (TMTG).
    Marco Rubio supports Trump and us rumored to be on the short list for his VP
    Vivek Ramaswamy is a person of color and a huge supporter of Trump.
    Byron Donalds and Ben Carson, both Black men who are rumored to be a serious VP contender for Trump. Ben Carson served Trump in his first term already.


    How many Black owned businesses hire White people? Does it bother you if a Black owned business has 10 employees and they are all Black? Should they have to hire a White person and a Latino? Maybe a trans-person as well? Shall we do the NBA analogy again?

    I am all for diversity but only when it comes naturally and not forced upon society. I look at people as people. I don't think its right for Airlines to demand they hire an X amount of a certain skin color, sex, or anything else other than the most qualified people. That is what I want when I walk onto the plane.

    DEI and affirmative action are the definition of racism or reverse racism. Whatever you wanna call it. The supreme court said as much recently with affirmative action. You are penalizing someone simply because of the color of their skin. That is racism. Hiring a Black person instead of a White person for the same job because you have to fulfill a quota is just wrong and racist. You can spin it all ya want but that is what it is.

    Listen, I know there was a ton a racism in the past and it was wrong of course, but wasn't my generation and we shouldn't have to pay for it by an over correction of certain wrongs from the past. If you can't see that, then I don't know what else I could possible say. You will never understand. Those are the demons you have to deal with while you are alive.

    Last point. Trump has been terrible at business? LOL. A multi-billionaire is suddenly a terrible businessman. Liberal logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    I'm not sure you would even understand the meaning of DEI?? I'm sure you've gotten plenty of lessons from Fox but if you really want to have a true discussion...

    DEI is not about black/white. It's definitely not about quotas or affirmative action. Do you know the first DEI case in America? It was about disability and a person in a wheelchair that had wheel their chair into the street to gain access. Every person in this forum, if they live long enough, along with their elderly family members will benefit from DEI legislation that you never even thought about. You may want to think twice before you roll back DEI. We're about to have the largest number of old people in this country as baby boomers get older.
    I know the definition...it does nothing but lead to unqualified folks being hired over those that are more qualified.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    You know what's funny Jake? Unfortunately, there's not a lot of qualified white males. White males are the most entitled group of people in this country. They rarely go for higher education (women are going for more masters and Phds), they are not very innovative and aren't willing to learn, upskill themselves. I've seen a lot of white men get sent home and they mostly have attitudes thinking that they lost their job to a minority or woman because of a quota or affirmative action. That's bullshit, they are losing their jobs because they just aren't very good on the job. Asians and Indians are kicking ass. Shame on our own kids here in the US that are so fukking entitled, they don't work hard. The US government and Companies have to sponsor qualified candidates from somewhere else because we don't have enough talented kids in our own backyard. It's fukking pathetic. Please don't tell me our kids are getting passed over because they are qualified. NO, THEY ARE NOT QUALIFIED AND ARE NOT WORTH A SHIT.
    I agree with you about the youth of America in general.

    Do not agree with much of anything else you waxed poetic about...to each their own...

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    SUNG to the MICKEY mouse theme show

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    and now quoted that Joan Rivers voted for him in 2016 she died 2 years before in 2014

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itsamazing777 View Post
    Choosing 1 field like doctors and tech people that many minorities excel at does not prove your point. The thousands of other trades, white men have far greater numbers, therefore there are more qualified whites than minorities. You are just a racist pos.
    I cant say about other parts of the country where I dont live and dont know first hand, but

    Here, when I got out of high school in 1988 you could not get, one of the high paying great jobs in the trades. They took applications 1 or 2 times a year and would hire 50 to 200 new apprentices (out of at least 5000 applications). If your granddad, uncle, or dad -someone you were close too did not have pull, you would not get a job.

    Fast forward to 2024, they now have to advertise on TV and radio to even get enough apps to cover the openings when hiring. A first-year apprentice in any of the trades would already be making a good wage for the area, and when topped out would be about 1.5 to 2 times the average for here.

    This is not something I've seen on TV media, where most here get their information, it's in my community. I see it with my own eyes and hear it with my ears firsthand, something some that post here cannot do. It's great when you get told how things are, by people who don't even live here, and have to trust the TV media to tell them.
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    Tucker is awesome!


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    Clown World, Cat Turd, Dan Bongino. Dwight so deep in the rabbit hole he's never coming back TFG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khicksIQis26 View Post
    Clown World, Cat Turd, Dan Bongino. Dwight so deep in the rabbit hole he's never coming back TFG.

    Tucker's not alone. Dumb people crack me up as well. You are often a source of comedy for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    Tucker's not alone. Dumb people crack me up as well. You are often a source of comedy for me.
    Dude the jokes on you. TFG, can't fix stupid hypocrites.



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    Quote Originally Posted by khicksIQis26 View Post
    Dude the jokes on you. TFG, can't fix stupid hypocrites.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    We don't need your home movies from Clown World.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by slewfan View Post
    That picture selection.

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    This says it all


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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    Tucker is awesome!

    So good.

    For those (BkofAma, thinking about your oft-cited 'White Christian MAGA, etc' rants) who habitually put high profile personalities in a box, might benefit from this exchange.

    Tucker fends off a completely unoriginal thinker's line of questioning. The irony is that she is, as a member of the media, in a position to illuminate ideas. But because she has no ideas and just parrot assigned narratives, she persists until he just unceremoniously buries her.

    Great stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ByeShea View Post
    So good.

    For those (BkofAma, thinking about your oft-cited 'White Christian MAGA, etc' rants) who habitually put high profile personalities in a box, might benefit from this exchange.

    Tucker fends off a completely unoriginal thinker's line of questioning. The irony is that she is, as a member of the media, in a position to illuminate ideas. But because she has no ideas and just parrot assigned narratives, she persists until he just unceremoniously buries her.

    Great stuff.
    Was he not one of the ones from fox that cost them over $780 million for defamation? If they didn't defame, then why not even defend yourself. That says a lot when you have no defense.

    Because you have a problem with the truth, it doesn't fit the BS you are selling. So, you make up your own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackpot269 View Post
    Was he not one of the ones from fox that cost them over $780 million for defamation? If they didn't defame, then why not even defend yourself. That says a lot when you have no defense.

    Because you have a problem with the truth, it doesn't fit the BS you are selling. So, you make up your own.
    so this is the talking point you decided to dig in your heels until the day you die. Lets look at the facts. You are only speculating as to why Fox settled out of court. All we know foe sure is that Fox decided to have a few guests on their show who questioned the legitimacy of the voting machines. That's basically it! Unless you know something else? If so, let's hear it. I would love to be informed.

    Why am I replying to your post, which you have posted a dozen times already, again? Its easy. You are trying to compare CNN/MSNBC and the rest of the liberal MSM to Fox News, which we all know (if we are being honest) is silly. At best, you have this ONE lawsuit which they decided to settle out of court (big mistake in my opinion) compared to hundreds of documented lies, misleading facts and fake narratives of CNN/MSNBC and the rest of the liberal MSM. Hundreds for which me, and others, have shown you. How many Fox News stories can you show which fall under the same category? Crickets. You are being silly.

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