Where Do You Download Your Music From?

**rfr3sh** · 02-03-12, 11:21 AM

convert youtube videos to mp3s best way now unless you want albums then I use newsgroups

**MUHerd37** · 02-03-12, 11:55 AM

Newsgroups

**jmathes** · 02-03-12, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by rfr3sh

convert youtube videos to mp3s best way now unless you want albums then I use newsgroups

thanks but to tell you the truth, downloading youtube videos and converting them over seems like a ton of work

**RubberKettle** · 02-03-12, 12:00 PM

tpb

**King Mayan** · 02-03-12, 12:02 PM

iTunes you cheap mother fukkers.

**RubberKettle** · 02-03-12, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by King Mayan

iTunes you cheap mother fukkers.

$1.99 for a song

**WvGambler** · 02-03-12, 12:09 PM

Itunes. If its too tough to pay for music..maybe music shouldnt be your top concern right now.

**Iced** · 02-03-12, 12:09 PM

torrents are good
mp3skull.com is the best website probably

Buying music from iTunes, or any digital media for that matter, is -EV. I've probably downloaded tens of thousands of dollars worth of intellectual property for free

**jmathes** · 02-03-12, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by MUHerd37

Newsgroups

never heard of newgroups and with a quick google search there was not much there either. where can i find this to download? also it is transferable to itunes right?

**King Mayan** · 02-03-12, 12:10 PM

Cheap bastards.

**RyanLeafOfBets** · 02-03-12, 12:11 PM

Bitlord.com
then use thepiratebay.com to download torrents

Or, use Spotify & Spotify Mobile

**WvGambler** · 02-03-12, 12:12 PM

RIAA is watching. Guys are getting sued for these transgressions.

**RubberKettle** · 02-03-12, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by WvGambler

RIAA is watching. Guys are getting sued for these transgressions.

Highly unlikely

**k13** · 02-03-12, 12:16 PM

mp3download app

pick song....downloads for you instantly.

**jmathes** · 02-03-12, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by WvGambler

Itunes. If its too tough to pay for music..maybe music shouldnt be your top concern right now.

I am sorry for being conscious of my budget and shopping around for the best price...Silly me! Next time I drive down the road and gas is a little cheaper on one side of the road I will just pull over to the station thats more expensive; then I'll make sure to get the worst possible interest rate when I refinance my home next week too. Hell why consolidate my student loans to save money? Ill just pay the highest possible interest over the next twenty years and pay almost double than I should. You guys are brilliant and on to something: Saving money is for the meaningless morons like myself!

And on a more serious note WV, my last music collection before my laptop crashed was about 900 songs. If I had paid $1.30 on average for every song that would have totaled about $1,200. Why pay for something at that price when you can get it for free or much much cheaper?

**HoulihansTX** · 02-03-12, 12:27 PM

Same thing happened to me. My computer crashed, and all my songs went poof.

**k13** · 02-03-12, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by jmathes

I am sorry for being conscious of my budget and shopping around for the best price...Silly me! Next time I drive down the road and gas is a little cheaper on one side of the road I will just pull over to the station thats more expensive; then I'll make sure to get the worst possible interest rate when I refinance my home next week too. Hell why consolidate my student loans to save money? Ill just pay the highest possible interest over the next twenty years and pay almost double than I should. You guys are brilliant and on to something: Saving money is for the meaningless morons like myself!

And on a more serious note WV, my last music collection before my laptop crashed was about 900 songs. If I had paid $1.30 on average for every song that would have totaled about $1,200. Why pay for something at that price when you can get it for free or much much cheaper?

You know you could just drive down to the gas station and not pay for it at all then you'll really be saving.

**joeythelip23** · 02-03-12, 12:27 PM

btjunkie.com

**FourLengthsClear** · 02-03-12, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by Iced

torrents are good
mp3skull.com is the best website probably

Buying music from iTunes, or any digital media for that matter, is -EV. I've probably downloaded tens of thousands of dollars worth of intellectual property for free

Paying for clothes and food is -EV too. Presumably you just walk into the store and help yourself?

**MUHerd37** · 02-03-12, 12:31 PM

Newsgroups are the best. Can't trace them either. Newsgroups cost some money per month. However, it's more than worth it. You can download music, movies, porn, and anything else you could ever think of. You can unlimited per month for like $9 from usenetserver.com. I use giganews now. They give me newsgroups, online storage, and vpn service in 1 package. It's more expensive tho. You need to sign up for newsgroup service and get a reader such as newsleecher. It's easy to do once you get the hang of it. Also, newsgroups are untraceable and basically all providers offer ssl encryption for free.

**onlooker** · 02-03-12, 12:34 PM

Never understood the trouble of going to the other side of the road, or down the street to get gas at a few cents lower. What are you going to save? A whole dollar on your fill-up?

**onlooker** · 02-03-12, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by MUHerd37

Newsgroups are the best. Can't trace them either. Newsgroups cost some money per month. However, it's more than worth it. You can download music, movies, porn, and anything else you could ever think of. You can unlimited per month for like $9 from usenetserver.com. I use giganews now. They give me newsgroups, online storage, and vpn service in 1 package. It's more expensive tho. You need to sign up for newsgroup service and get a reader such as newsleecher. It's easy to do once you get the hang of it. Also, newsgroups are untraceable and basically all providers offer ssl encryption for free.

Don't most ISP's offer newsgroups? I haven't used them in years, but I remember COX having a newsgroup server.

You just need a reader. Hell, I use to use Outlook Express for it.

**MUHerd37** · 02-03-12, 12:40 PM

Not anymore onlooker. Most ISPs stopped offering them to users. You can't use Outlook Express for this stuff now. Music and stuff are now in rar format so you need a real reader and something like winrar to unrar it.

**WvGambler** · 02-03-12, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by jmathes

I am sorry for being conscious of my budget and shopping around for the best price...Silly me! Next time I drive down the road and gas is a little cheaper on one side of the road I will just pull over to the station thats more expensive; then I'll make sure to get the worst possible interest rate when I refinance my home next week too. Hell why consolidate my student loans to save money? Ill just pay the highest possible interest over the next twenty years and pay almost double than I should. You guys are brilliant and on to something: Saving money is for the meaningless morons like myself!

And on a more serious note WV, my last music collection before my laptop crashed was about 900 songs. If I had paid $1.30 on average for every song that would have totaled about $1,200. Why pay for something at that price when you can get it for free or much much cheaper?

I understand your point, but youre making it seem like youre watching your budget and being responsible when in reality youre stealing.

It's not really the same.

**onlooker** · 02-03-12, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by MUHerd37

Not anymore onlooker. Most ISPs stopped offering them to users. You can't use Outlook Express for this stuff now. Music and stuff are now in rar format so you need a real reader and something like winrar to unrar it.

Some were in .RAR format years ago too. But there was a "Combine and Decode" on Outlook that let you download each part and get the file. I wasn't really all that into it to get a dedicated news reader. Then yes, you needed WinRAR or something to open it.

I'm going to check and see if COX still has the the news server. I haven't messed around with newsgroups in ages, maybe it is time to start again.

**WvGambler** · 02-03-12, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by RubberKettle

Highly unlikely

Google some articles. Guys are being sued as we speak for 100's of thousands, because of a few dozen songs. It's not hardly as unlikely as you think. We're not talking a few individuals. We're talking thousands of people.

**RubberKettle** · 02-03-12, 01:56 PM

Maybe others, but not me. Sorry I cannot elaborate on particulars.

**A.M.S.** · 02-03-12, 02:04 PM

Bitlord

**showtiime** · 02-03-12, 03:13 PM

waffles! invite only, need to give back a little or get banned, replaced oink.

It's great because it filters out all the junk you get with regular torrent sites, plus easier to find higher quality mp3's for work.

**Iced** · 02-03-12, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by FourLengthsClear

Paying for clothes and food is -EV too. Presumably you just walk into the store and help yourself?

Intellectual property rights are fictional. Copying is not theft. Me stealing your car is theft because you no longer have a car, and I do. If I download a song or movie, there is still the same amount of movies. No one lost anything.

**Iced** · 02-03-12, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by WvGambler

Google some articles. Guys are being sued as we speak for 100's of thousands, because of a few dozen songs. It's not hardly as unlikely as you think. We're not talking a few individuals. We're talking thousands of people.

Because they're dumb shits who don't use proxies or tor.

**Iced** · 02-03-12, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by k13

mp3download app

pick song....downloads for you instantly.

Yup. This is a good one too. The RIAA tried to get Google to remove this app and Google told the RIAA to go fuk themselves

**FourLengthsClear** · 02-03-12, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by Iced

Intellectual property rights are fictional. Copying is not theft. Me stealing your car is theft because you no longer have a car, and I do. If I download a song or movie, there is still the same amount of movies. No one lost anything.

That might sound rational but it is not how the law sees it, thankfully.

It is presumably OK in your book to hack/share a cable TV decoder in order to avoid paying for that? Or jump on a train for free? What if these things were legal and nobody paid?

To be clear, I couldn't care less about music/file sharing, although I do pay, but the broader issue of IP rights irks me.

**Iced** · 02-03-12, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by FourLengthsClear

That might sound rational but it is not how the law sees it, thankfully.

Well yeah, obviously the law sees it that way.

Originally posted by FourLengthsClear

It is presumably OK in your book to hack/share a cable TV decoder in order to avoid paying for that? Or jump on a train for free?

No to both of those. Cable TV and trains are both private property. If I hacked the cable, I'd be stealing packets of data from the cable company. There would be no "copying" occuring -- only theft. Jumping on a train is an obvious violation of private property. The train owner gets to decide who and cannot jump on.

When I'm downloading songs and movies with intellectual property rights, however, no one is losing anything. There is just one more copy.

Ideas (in the form of songs and movies and such) are not scarce or finite like material property is.

Originally posted by FourLengthsClear

What if these things were legal and nobody paid?

That's not likely. Movies could still make money through the box office and in material goods like fan t-shirts and the such. Singers could still make money from concerts and commercial appearances and in material goods like fan t-shirts and the such. There's actually plenty of singers today who don't copyright any of their songs and fans still buy their music on iTunes and CDs because they love them.