Philly Plane Crash
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At the end of the Trump press conference, there was a question on the Safety of flying on an American plane. This is a big deal. Number of crashes on Commercial airlines is very low.
Passengers are supposed to feel safe. Safety protocol really under the microscope here.Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?Comment
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is astonishingly clear footage<br><br>I can not logically see any other option but that the chopper was flown manually or remotely, directly into that plane<br><br>I will never be convinced accident!����*♀️ <a href="https://t.co/gdGyrYNALc">pic.twitter.com/gdGyrYNALc</a></p>— ��⚔️ BRAVE POLISH GIRL ����*♀️⚔️�� (@Btchen_n) <a href="https://twitter.com/Btchen_n/status/1885686583992492512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >February 1, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Comment
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List of aviation fatalities in the USA:
It's not that many. But already two in 2025.Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?Comment
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Who do you think profited the most from DEI? White women and whites with disabilities. DEI has done very little for people of color. How do I know? I consult with many fortune 100 companies. Blacks and Hispanics are not getting ahead because of DEI. White women are. But then I hear old white men say that they lost their jobs to an unqualified women and they are wrong. That women happens to be much more qualified. They’ve reeducated themselves, reinvented themselves while white men are trying to get by on 1960. Wake up.Comment
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I read the same thing that you read and that the helicopter pilot was flying too high and off course as well, so I understand the major fault lies with him and his co-pilot. It was two of them and not just one flying that copter. They were also wearing night vision goggles which I read that it gives you a tunnel vision and probably prevented them seeing the plane to their left at either 9 or 11 O'clock.
Considering the main pilot had over 1,000 flying hours, either he was a total idiot or just not a good pilot and ended up killing innocent people. Was it a mistake? Could be but you make mistakes like that you shouldn't be flying. He won't anymore.
Anyway, if another ATC was in the tower, could it have prevented that tragedy? It happened relatively fast, so perhaps it wouldn't have mattered but if two ATC's could have prevented that accident, then the fault lies with the Obama administration policies.
Like I posted earlier, there is a lawsuit pending because someone wasn't hired because of the DEI policy when the guy had a perfect score in his exam and what not. Whether that translates to being a good ATC, I have no clue but I'm sure he would be better than someone hired with lower standards because of the DEI policy.
My guess is that they didn't have enough DEI applicants and therefore they weren't filling the positions and that probably led to not enough ATC's in the tower even though one guy left early that night. Maybe the supervisor was a DEI hire and he wasn't being very responsible letting a guy leave early (mostly kidding). Who the hell knows until the investigation is completed in full.
Another thing about this human error, why in hell are they training around a busy airport area? That's the real human error.
Someone needs to be held responsible for scheduling this type of training when they could be doing this in some other area that's not an airport.Comment
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I really wish Trump had thought this through more. He spoke not long after the tragedy.
The moment of silence was a nice touch. But that should have been the focus. Mourn for the deceased and state that an investigation will take place.
Not the time to politicize. It's a huge breakdown for this to have happened. Un-thinkable really, RIP to all the deceased.Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?Comment
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I have no clue who benefited the most with the DEI hire. You could be right that it's white women and whites with disabilities, but I wouldn't know.
Our corporation pushes DEI but I haven't seen it happen in my work place, so I'm kinda thankful that I don't have to deal with it emotionally.
However, I do know it happened in my sister-in-law's job at Pentagon and in that situation it was almost 100% blacks who benefited the most when a black male was hired into an upper management position. She had a PhD in computer science from UVA and worked for over 20 years in Pentagon, but ever since they started pushing the DEI policy she was getting nowhere when everyone else hired new were moving up, so she got fed up and basically quit by retiring early. She is also disabled as she had a polio as a child and she has to walk with crutches, but her being an Asian doesn't count for the DEI policy I guess. I feel bad for her that she had to deal with that situation but between her and my brother, they made well over $300K a year and they have millions in investments so they have nothing to worry about.
My older brother is at GS-15 and he is a patent examiner where they don't make you retire, so he tells me he will work until he doesn't feel like it since he works from home and Trump's executive order to make fed employees go back to office to work doesn't apply to him as the patent examiners all work from home to begin with after the training and not related to the COVID remote working.
He never complained about the DEI policy, so that's that.Comment
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I just have one question for you.
You don't believe that men are just superior to women not only physically but also mentally?
Sure, there are women who may be more superior than men mentally and intellectually but in general it's men who trumps women mostly and they are better suited for certain jobs.
If you don't agree, then there is nothing I can tell you to change your mind.Comment
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Also, I think you are mis-understanding my point.
They should hire just based on merit and not based on color of your skin, sexual orientation, etc, etc.
If someone of color, women, or disabled are smarter and better qualified for the job, then let them be hired but I also see the point that the discrimination happens without the DEI policy.
Regardless, the DEI policy isn't the solution the way I see it.
Supreme Court did rule against the affirmative action admission policy to universities. Thank God I didn't have to deal with that when I went to UPenn.Comment
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Most people like you admitted do not know DEI policies. Your sister in law obviously doesn’t know it because none of that has anything to do with her advancing. Why would her being Asian with a disability exclude her? She is giving you a load of shit. Just ask her what policy prevented her. She won’t find one.
I could write a book on DEI. You are being fed a bunch of lies to get your emotions up and place blame where it’s not warranted. Do you really think the person with the highest test score should always get the job? Okay, what happens when Harvard and Yale are 100% Asian because their scores are better than whites. Do you really think Harvard, Yale, the government, the local grocer should not be diverse? We have great people from all kinds of backgrounds, colors, ethnicities. We also have a lot of fuk ups from diverse backgrounds as well. We should want the best but who decides what is best?Comment
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You are all over the map. First you say men are superior and in the same paragraph admit some women are superior. Then you start generalizing by saying in general.
This is a discussion forum. I’m not trying to change you but you sound very young. I’ve lived long enough to know there are women out there better than me, can out think me, out run me and probably kick my ass.Comment
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I understand several of your points. I just don’t agree that in all cases, men are better than women physically and mentally. I know too many weak ass, mental midget men. I also don’t believe that men are somehow better Air Traffic Controllers. I believe rules have to be in place to provide opportunities for everyone, not just men. Now if you have your own business, you can hire whoever you want to hire. Since you think women are inferior, I don’t expect you to hire my momma or sister any time soon. Your choice. BUT if you are a manager of a government facility, where I pay taxes to support that facility then you better damn sure afford opportunities to everyone and not just your bros.
Funny you mention merit. Who gets to decide what merit is? Is it SAT scores? Some standardized test written in Chinese? Being able to run a 5 second 40 yard dash? How about being able to do a back hand spring or a full split. Who gets to make the rules on merit?
Merit has multiple meanings, including:
- Worthiness: The quality of being good and deserving of praise or reward
- Deserving: To earn something by service or performance
- Advantage: The advantages something has compared to something else
- Legal significance: The substance of a case, apart from matters of procedure, jurisdiction, or form
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- Worthiness: The quality of being good and deserving of praise or reward
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This is a totally unnecessary tragedy.
Why would any sane person conduct night-vision exercises in the vicinity
of an international or domestic airport?
My heart mourns for everyone involved.
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I guess there is a reason but I’m with you. Planes are descending as they must follow the river well before they reach Wash. DC. Been like that forever. If they take those helicopters and just go a half a mile up river it would be impossible to have a crash. Planes are way higher at that point.Comment
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Props to this guy for showing some human emotion. This is a tragedy. Shouldn't have happened.
Still want to know what the helicopter was doing in this area. Seems to be so far out-of-place.Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?Comment
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Chucky. There have been army helicopters flying in that exact area since at least the mid 60’s. That is when I was old enough to go down there which I did regularly. There is a golf course there called Haines Point that is very short with no sand traps for beginners. My friend and I would go there almost every weekend and everyday in the summer. Those army helicopters were always there and very low. Like 100 feet above the water it seemed but I was still a kid.Comment
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Those helicopters are all around there everyday.
That golf course is directly across from the airport on the DC side.Comment
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What they won't tell us is just how many ''close calls'' between Planes and Helicopters and Planes on Planes take place on a daily basis.Comment
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No question that there have been many many close calls over the years. One other thing is they were using a particular runway that was not used very often at all . Apparently it is used sparingly and only when necessary because of too many incoming flights at the same time. Maybe that odd angle confused the 2 pilots on the helicopter as they assumed they were in safe space???
I guess we will find out in time. Terrible shame.Comment
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Reagan Airport was built to handle 15 million flights per year. It's now handling 25 million flights per year because politicians wanted more flights to go home and to bring people in from places all over the world. They were told it's too much and did nothing.
The last thing you want is a lack of controllers or a hiring freeze because you want to destroy the government.Comment
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Also the DEI stuff has been on the FAA website since 2013. So, all of Trumps first term.Comment
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