If you want your BI money, then go get a bailout.

**Dark Horse** · 12-19-12, 03:17 PM

Good idea. Tried it with Tony, but others may take it.

**raiders72001** · 12-19-12, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by Dark Horse

Good idea. Tried it with Tony, but others may take it.

Unfortunately some guys like you may be out of luck. CRIS/Bookmaker has done this for a lot of people in the past. Not sure if anyone trusts them but BetUs is another one that I know has done this.

**RammRamm1234** · 12-19-12, 03:26 PM

I just tried with DSI, they're line is that they were in no way affiliated with BI and as such, they are not offering anything to their players at the moment. And I've been with them for a long time, deposit regularly, low # of payouts, etc.

**Jbaby97** · 12-19-12, 03:29 PM

what do you mean by this? I would call Heritage and ask hey i had 7k at BI will you honor it?

**raiders72001** · 12-19-12, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by Jbaby97

what do you mean by this? I would call Heritage and ask hey i had 7k at BI will you honor it?

exactly. Ask them if they will take the account. They may give you some terms. It may be tough but it doesn't hurt knocking on doors. If SBR or BI gives me the sheet, I'll do it for people but can't guarantee success.

**dark star** · 12-19-12, 08:33 PM

FWIW Legendz has done this.They are a trusted stand up book.Hopefully they can help out

**raiders72001** · 12-19-12, 08:58 PM

SBR- You guys trying to get the players a bail out?

**dark star** · 12-19-12, 09:32 PM

If SBR was a stand-up somewhat honest place there would have been a bail out available awhile ago.Silence kills

**JasonDC** · 12-19-12, 09:34 PM

Covers didn't do a damn thing for the people who got their money stolen from beted..SBR wont either.

**raiders72001** · 12-19-12, 09:38 PM

SBR didn't try to help out PanAm players either. Gambling forums are going to get fooled by books and SBR is going to be blind sided from time to time by the books that advertise. It's impossible for it not to happen. SBR's legacy is determined by what they do afterwards. Go get a bail out.

**denn333** · 12-19-12, 09:51 PM

Tried Heritage, no dice.

**jcubs55** · 12-19-12, 09:55 PM

I asked BookMaker (where I have played at) and they said no... I tried to PM you, raiders72001, but you have them turned off.

**bobbywaves** · 12-19-12, 11:14 PM

Rumor has it ************** is offering something, probably match deposit. But even if true, who would want to risk additional funds there.

**Miz** · 12-19-12, 11:32 PM

Originally posted by bobbywaves

Rumor has it ************** is offering something, probably match deposit. But even if true, who would want to risk additional funds there.

Exactly. When you find yourself in a hole, first thing to do is stop digging. For anyone that lost less than 5-6k, you just have to take that lump and shake it off right now. For the other guys, I feel awful for them. That is lifechanging money, that probably took them years to build up.

**raiders72001** · 12-20-12, 02:13 AM

Originally posted by jcubs55

I asked BookMaker (where I have played at) and they said no... I tried to PM you, raiders72001, but you have them turned off.

I don't want to go behind SBR's back, since we are talking about it on their forum, to try and help but if they say it's OK, then I'll try. I hope that SBR is trying to get a bail out. It would be nice if SBR said that they are doing so at this time instead of letting players hang.

**JasonDC** · 12-20-12, 02:22 AM

Originally posted by raiders72001

I don't want to go behind SBR's back, since we are talking about it on their forum, to try and help but if they say it's OK, then I'll try. I hope that SBR is trying to get a bail out. It would be nice if SBR said that they are doing so at this time instead of letting players hang.

Raiders you know we have a snowballs chance in hell of getting a bailout..in todays offshore betting environment nobody would take on that debt..not a chance.

**The Kraken** · 12-20-12, 02:30 AM

Nobody worth a damn is taking on BI's sheet. The names and amounts have been seen.

**raiders72001** · 12-20-12, 03:05 AM

You guys may be right but many people have been bailed out in the last 2 years. peep got a bail out from Bet911 and he's a sharp gambler. I would probably just be spinning my wheels in today's environment but SBR could help some if they wanted. I placed almost all back in the day, but 2005 is a lot different than 2012.

**tatommack** · 12-20-12, 03:08 AM

Originally posted by raiders72001

Unfortunately some guys like you may be out of luck. CRIS/Bookmaker has done this for a lot of people in the past. Not sure if anyone trusts them but BetUs is another one that I know has done this.

Betus will do this hope you don't mind being double fvcked

**raiders72001** · 12-20-12, 03:11 AM

Originally posted by tatommack

Betus will do this hope you don't mind being double fvcked

BetUS and CRIS did it in 2005 and no one got screwed.

**raiders72001** · 12-20-12, 03:15 AM

Unfortunately sometimes people have good intentions and the book screws players. SBR may have been in that position. I got fooled by Playthescore, PlayASAP and Richcoastsports. All of those players got bailouts but once again that was 2005. Other sites have helped in the past two years with a few bailouts.

**tatommack** · 12-20-12, 03:45 AM

Originally posted by raiders72001

BetUS and CRIS did it in 2005 and no one got screwed.

i got it now you work for one of these scam books like betus. betus already offers 100% match bonuses you people are sick. i hope all you scum catch a virus while in these 3rd world countries.

Don't respond to this guy why would anyone just help you if something is not in it for him. he's only after guys that would deposit large amounts.

**raiders72001** · 12-20-12, 03:55 AM

Originally posted by tatommack

i got it now you work for one of these scam books like betus. betus already offers 100% match bonuses you people are sick. i hope all you scum catch a virus while in these 3rd world countries.

Don't respond to this guy why would anyone just help you if something is not in it for him. he's only after guys that would deposit large amounts.

why would anyone try to help when there are guys like you that criticize anyone that tries to help? I've done it before and got nothing from it. Most got bailed out by CRIS and Roberto got a few in the Greek. BetUS helped a couple. Not one person complained that got bailed out from the three books that I mentioned and I didn't get a penny. I most likely only had a 5-10% chance of helping but I don't need the headaches from guys like you. I'll let you come back and say, "see, raiders was only in it for the money" Not true but try to save face with false accusations. GL to everyione else.

**raiders72001** · 12-20-12, 03:56 AM

Originally posted by tatommack

i got it now you work for one of these scam books like betus. betus already offers 100% match bonuses you people are sick. i hope all you scum catch a virus while in these 3rd world countries.

Don't respond to this guy why would anyone just help you if something is not in it for him. he's only after guys that would deposit large amounts.

Small accounts were also bailed out. You have no clue what you are talking about. Not one person that has dealt with me money wise will state that I'm a scammer. I've been on the forums since 2002. It's only the big mouths that don't play for cash that bash.

**MBENZ** · 12-20-12, 04:02 AM

Raiders doesn't work for any book and that is a fact.He was merely putting something out there that might help the guys with a small balance.I wouldn't suggest Betus to my worst fukking enemy but the rest he threw out might give some a fighting chance.

**raiders72001** · 12-20-12, 07:08 AM

I'm not to get involved in any of this but it was posted across the street that some type of bail out is in process for some players.

boatboatboat

12-18-2012, 08:12 PM

Some BI players have already been granted what could considered a bailout, from a group that the RX would prefer not be discussed here.

**raiders72001** · 12-20-12, 08:14 AM

If SBR gets together with EOG, they could get a lot of this done.

**wrongturn** · 12-20-12, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by raiders72001

If SBR gets together with EOG, they could get a lot of this done.

You are right. Certainly hope SBR is working on something that can bring in bailout, instead of doing nothing.

**ronald** · 12-20-12, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by raiders72001

Ask a book that you have played at if they will take your BI balance. They may want matching funds or other terms. A book that you have played at will have you profiled and can make decisions on an individual basis. I've done this for people in the past.

Raiders, didn't you successfully get a bailout for poster BAUS many years ago?

**raiders72001** · 12-20-12, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by ronald

Raiders, didn't you successfully get a bailout for poster BAUS many years ago?

BAUS was the only one not to get a bailout. He signed an exclusive contract with Roberto giving Roberto 10% of recovered funds. I was doing it for free but BAUS never contacted me even though I posted on the forums many times asking if anyone needed a bailout.