Pinnacle honors no limiting? What is the benefits of using a sports broker?

[Redwing41]

Anyone bet over the limit of Pinnacle on multiple bets? They seem to be okay with players doing so, and also are a book sports brokers use.

Second question. What is the benefits of using a sports broker if pinnacle already offers good odds and they allow multiple bets for you to bet as much as you like. Do sports brokers give you better odds than typical books? It seems like an extra person to go through where they can find a bs reason to not payout.

[Optional]

A broker lets you move money between multiple books instantly without fees. Good for arbers. They also might give you a cashback or turnover bonus you cant get directly with the book/s they offer.

But I agree with you, no reason for the extra middle man if you don't need one.

[Hareeba!]

You can't bet "over the limit" at Pinnacle unless the odds change later.
Sure, you can make a limit bet and bet again but the odds (or the line) will change after each bet.
So that's not the same as making an "over the limit" bet.
The limit is reset at the lower odds or new line each time.

[evo34]

You can't bet "over the limit" at Pinnacle unless the odds change later.
Sure, you can make a limit bet and bet again but the odds (or the line) will change after each bet.
So that's not the same as making an "over the limit" bet.
The limit is reset at the lower odds or new line each time.

Not necessarily. If they don't move after you first bet, you can bet again at the same line.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

A major benefit now are bethubs, that allows you to bet at multiple books from a single interface, with a single wallet. You make your pick, it gives you the best price available at all the books.

For example, picking the next soccer international: Serbia vs Israel on the -1 handicap. SBO have 1.97 1.95, Pinnacle have 1.99 1.93. At the bethub, I get 1.99 on both sides, because GA288 have a better price on the away.

Another one: Argentine -2.75 v Malta. SBO 1.60 2.42, Pin 1.63 2.38. My broker gives me 1.63 2.44.

That's one broker, they just have all the Asian books. A lot of others add in matchbook and betfair, and some betdaq also.

[Hareeba!]

Not necessarily. If they don't move after you first bet, you can bet again at the same line.

Of course, but have you ever seen the odds or line not move when you've placed a limit bet? I haven't.
In fact I've frequently seen the odds reduced after a bet around half the limit.

[Krashman]

Are sports brokers online? Got a link?

Can you name some?

Is there a referral site for them, a rating site like SBR?

[Optional]

Are sports brokers online? Got a link?

Can you name some?

Is there a referral site for them, a rating site like SBR?

Yes they are online websites like books.

Asianconnect88, bet-ibc, Samvo, Premiumtradings

SBR has not published ratings for agents.

[Visarion]

It would be nice to have such a rating for the agents also, I understand that their conditions are different; however - take it as a suggestion since thhey take and cashout our maney.

[Redwing41]

In general are brokers like asiaconnect88 reliable for payouts. They are licensed but that only means so much. If you deposit 10k and hit a streak it would be a good time for an untrustworthy broker to say you violated an agreement

[dealer wins]

In general are brokers like asiaconnect88 reliable for payouts. They are licensed but that only means so much. If you deposit 10k and hit a streak it would be a good time for an untrustworthy broker to say you violated an agreement

Do the brokers actually take any of your action, or just facilitate you to bet with the book and get a small commission from each bet you make?

If the latter then one dodgy move would cost them a lot in lost commission/reputation.

I use Premium Tradings and they have said that they dont take action themselves, just make their money from a small % of what I bet. (Im guessing amount 0.3% of my bet/win value)

So from my pinnacle figures they would earn £300 - £500 a month from me without any risk.

[Redwing41]

Do the brokers actually take any of your action, or just facilitate you to bet with the book and get a small commission from each bet you make?

If the latter then one dodgy move would cost them a lot in lost commission/reputation.

I use Premium Tradings and they have said that they dont take action themselves, just make their money from a small % of what I bet. (Im guessing amount 0.3% of my bet/win value)

So from my pinnacle figures they would earn £300 - £500 a month from me without any risk.

I think it has something to do with Pinnacle getting the information from your broker that is what they are looking for. Im not too sure, maybe if they want to despute your wagers it would be your broker, not the book that is going to take the heat.

Most likely would be that the action doesnt go 100 percent into pinnacle and is spread throughout different books that the broker does behind the scenes.

[dealer wins]

I log into Pinnacle with the account they provide me, and make bets with limits identical to a non-agent pinnacle site. Still guess we will never know how it works and who I am spanking every week

[tristan]

In general are brokers like asiaconnect88 reliable for payouts. They are licensed but that only means so much. If you deposit 10k and hit a streak it would be a good time for an untrustworthy broker to say you violated an agreement

I've tried several brokers and according to my own experience i would say AsianConnect is the best i used, and totally reliable. Many advantages with AC that you don't have with all brokers:
-you can join then 7/7 24/24 via email, live chat...
-withdrawals are almost instantly ! And you get 1 free per month
-All deposits with EWallets (neteller, skrill) are free! (when some other brokers charge them)
-You can get cashback on every one of your bets!

[evo34]

olebitcoin is one to consider. For those unfamiliar, they give you a dedicated, anonyomous Pinnacle account (ID/PW) and act as the middleman for all money transfers. All these years, I had thought "agents" were just bookies who used some ghetto web site and took on who knows what risk, but the reality is that they are just connectors that allow you to manage an account at the actual sportsbook.

Question for heehaw: is bethubs a company or a general term for the category? If the latter, what are are some URLs to check?

[tristan]

olebitcoin is one to consider. For those unfamiliar, they give you a dedicated, anonyomous Pinnacle account (ID/PW) and act as the middleman for all money transfers. All these years, I had thought "agents" were just bookies who used some ghetto web site and took on who knows what risk, but the reality is that they are just connectors that allow you to manage an account at the actual sportsbook.

Question for heehaw: is bethubs a company or a general term for the category? If the latter, what are are some URLs to check?

I've never heard of Olebitcoin before? But if you're looking for a much more established and reliable broker why don't you use Asianconnect?? Your money would be more safe there. Personnaly i don't use Bitcoin for now, but i know for sure that AsianConnect proposes it, and of course all the accounts they provide (such as a private Pinnacle account) remain totally anonymous and confidential

[tristan]

Little precision: When i said that the accounts AsianConnect provide are totally anonymous, i meant that for example, if Asian Connect provides you a Pinnacle account, Pinnacle will ignore who you are. Concerning AsianConnect, if you open AC account in Euros and GBP, they will of course know who you are and you'll need to provide documents for KYC verification. But if you open AsianConnect account in Bitcoin, you can remain anonymous too with AsianConnect

[mg63]

I've never heard of Olebitcoin before? But if you're looking for a much more established and reliable broker why don't you use Asianconnect?? Your money would be more safe there. Personnaly i don't use Bitcoin for now, but i know for sure that AsianConnect proposes it, and of course all the accounts they provide (such as a private Pinnacle account) remain totally anonymous and confidential

AC does not offer some books like singbet and ga288 in their bitcoin accounts

[jjgold]

Hard to rate agents

None really knows who is behind them

Stick to sites that have been around for a while

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Question for heehaw: is bethubs a company or a general term for the category? If the latter, what are are some URLs to check?

It's just a category, although the term itself isn't widely used. They used to just be called mollybet accounts, which is a third party company that provides a software platform a lot of the books use for this (premiumtradings, eastbridge, bet-ibc and sportmarket all use this).

However, now Asianconnect and Eastbridge have made their own platforms (asianodds and vodds respectively), so you kinda need a separate word for the category. Bethub is the best word I've seen.

[mg63]

However, now Asianconnect and Eastbridge have made their own platforms (asianodds and vodds respectively), so you kinda need a separate word for the category. Bethub is the best word I've seen.

Eastbridge >> https://mollybet.com + vodds

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Eastbridge >> https://mollybet.com

Eastbridge will do molly or vodds accounts - I have both through them. They're trying to move people to the latter though, presumably because it's the same company so they don't have to pay fees to mollybet.

[Artizan]

it is good to contact each agent in part, here I am referring to the most reliable which already have a name and history: premium tradings, betibc and assian connect because each broker has his conditions nad according to your needs you can chose the best one for you but notfor the others. Pay attention to the minimum deposit required to open the accounts:
premium trading - 500euro
bet-ibc - you receive login details for free, after you are asked to send a minimum depoosut of 100Euro - it is good because so you can try if it is worth to continue or not
asianconnect - 25Euro - only after this you receive login details
Also you need to check the bookmakers they work with bcause in case you will like their services you may want to open an account to a second bookie and it is good when you have the accounts opened via the same agent - only so you will be able to trabnsfer the fund between the account free of charge.
Be careful because some agents may ask you to send documents for verification

[evo34]

Eastbridge >> https://mollybet.com + vodds

Why would using Skype be easier than checking odds at a couple books? Both are a minor hassle.

[evo34]

I've never heard of Olebitcoin before? But if you're looking for a much more established and reliable broker why don't you use Asianconnect??

There are reasons.

[king7811]

Is Pinnacle restricted in some countries? Do you need the agent for this reason?

[SBE]

Is Pinnacle restricted in some countries? Do you need the agent for this reason?

Exactly. There are many countries restricted. You can find the list in their rules, somewhere.

For example, UK is included, too. If you reside in UK - you cannot bet directly at Pinnacle ...Maybe in future months, once they get a

license there ...

[king7811]

I'll try to contact this bet-ibc

[cirque73]

Is Pinnacle restricted in some countries? Do you need the agent for this reason?

NO! Agents restrict countries who are not allowed to bet on sports.

[SBE]

NO! Agents restrict countries who are not allowed to bet on sports.

On Pinnacle website, Terms and conditions:

" 3. You are not a resident of the following countries:i. the United States of America and its territories;ii. the French Republic and its territories;iii. United Kingdom;iv. Netherlands (including Curacao and other countries and territories that form part of the Kingdom of Netherlands);v. Spain;vi. Germany;vii. Singapore;viii. Democratic People's Republic of Korea;ix. Denmark;x. Philippines;xi. Syria;xii. Turkey;"


So Pinnacle restricts residents in that countries !!!