Pinnacle no longer available to Australians

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  • Domestic
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 02-10-09
    • 6323

    #1
    Pinnacle no longer available to Australians
    Just received the following email, it was good while it lasted boys.
  • shari91
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 02-23-10
    • 32661

    #2
    Oh lordie
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    • PanamaBrad
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 03-22-11
      • 717

      #3
      OUCH, sorry to my aussie cousins. Panama has nice weather
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      • Alfa1234
        SBR MVP
        • 12-19-15
        • 2722

        #4
        This coïncides strangely enough with Asianconnect closing all PinnacleSports accounts from British customers.

        I hope they leave other countries alone...
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        • shari91
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 02-23-10
          • 32661

          #5
          Just got my email... sad day
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          • aliceinchains
            SBR High Roller
            • 01-07-18
            • 112

            #6
            Sorry to hear that...brokers will come out ahead
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            • SBR Forum
              Administrator
              • 12-02-06
              • 4559

              #7
              Please submit your withdrawals before April 20 to avoid delays and keep us posted on your feedback.
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              • Optional
                Administrator
                • 06-10-10
                • 60685

                #8
                It's been expected for a while after anti-gambling politicians gained some power last year or so.

                And once Australia has every internet user locked into the China style National Broadband Network they are forcing everyone onto, we wont even get emails from books. They will all be just blocked.
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                • lonnie55
                  SBR MVP
                  • 04-08-16
                  • 2689

                  #9
                  What a bad development all over the world. 6 years ago, in most countries it was not necessary to have an agent or broker to bet on Pinnacle, SBO and IBC.

                  I will never understand why it is legally and ethically correct to bet on commodities, cat-bonds and water but when it comes to sports betting the legal situation becomes more and more restrictive in most countries.
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                  • littlekona
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 11-19-15
                    • 5241

                    #10
                    Is pin bet88 full clone or just partial ?
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                    • Bluehorseshoe
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 07-13-06
                      • 14983

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Optional
                      It's been expected for a while after anti-gambling politicians gained some power last year or so.

                      And once Australia has every internet user locked into the China style National Broadband Network they are forcing everyone onto, we wont even get emails from books. They will all be just blocked.
                      Why do people not fight this???
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                      • Optional
                        Administrator
                        • 06-10-10
                        • 60685

                        #12
                        Originally posted by littlekona
                        Is pin bet88 full clone or just partial ?
                        I think so

                        Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe

                        Why do people not fight this???
                        I don't think the general public yet realizes how much control the govt are taking over our communication medium here. The roll out is not complete yet so the govt hasn't tried to use it for blocking or talked about blocking in a long time. Once it's complete they will start and people will wake up (too late)

                        As far as gambling licensing. Most people are pretty happy with how it works here and you would be just wasting time trying to argue Pinnacle should be allowed to operate without one.

                        Hopefully they will eventually get one. Would put a cat amongst the pigeons for the local books. I bet they already wish the govt would just leave Pinny alone so they dont try to get a local license.
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                        • shari91
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 02-23-10
                          • 32661

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Optional
                          I think so

                          I don't think the general public yet realizes how much control the govt are taking over our communication medium here. The roll out is not complete yet so the govt hasn't tried to use it for blocking or talked about blocking in a long time. Once it's complete they will start and people will wake up (too late)

                          As far as gambling licensing. Most people are pretty happy with how it works here and you would be just wasting time trying to argue Pinnacle should be allowed to operate without one.

                          Hopefully they will eventually get one. Would put a cat amongst the pigeons for the local books. I bet they already wish the govt would just leave Pinny alone so they dont try to get a local license.
                          I think part of it also is that the majority of Aussies who gamble - and obviously there's a lot of us - wouldn't even contemplate betting overseas when you have a TAB on every corner and too many Aussie books as it is to choose from. So to the casual bettor they'd support banning offshore books who don't pay tax or regulatory fees here because they wouldn't care about getting better lines or props elsewhere. If anything was going to stop this mess I reckon it would've happened when they not only banned live betting here but then also live betting with overseas books. There was such a relatively little fuss made then that the government was essentially given free rein on how to deal with these supposed intruders to the market.

                          Oh well... back to being ripped off.
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                          • Optional
                            Administrator
                            • 06-10-10
                            • 60685

                            #14
                            Yeah exactly Shari. Even the majority of gamblers support the licensing system here.

                            Would be best for everyone if they just let it be as it is now. Pinny doesn't hurt the locals by competing here and the locals dont want many of the sharps that want Pinny as well.

                            I got asked to use a different bank when I requested my withdraw btw. One of the big 4 I usually used in the past. So maybe that is a clue why now too.
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                            • Hareeba!
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 07-01-06
                              • 36774

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
                              Why do people not fight this???
                              punters as a group are a) very apathetic and b) have next to zero political clout
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                              • Alfa1234
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-19-15
                                • 2722

                                #16
                                Originally posted by littlekona
                                Is pin bet88 full clone or just partial ?
                                100% same markets, it's not even a clone but simply the agent site from Pinnaclesports. Limits are only roughly 35% though.
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                                • TheMoneyShot
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 02-14-07
                                  • 28672

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by shari91
                                  Just got my email... sad day
                                  Try Fairlay shar bear. True Pinny odds. Like a replica.
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                                  • Barrakuda
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 02-28-18
                                    • 786

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                    Try Fairlay shar bear. True Pinny odds. Like a replica.
                                    Except their market maker appears to have ditched them. Nothing avail. at Fairlay for last 24 hours.
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                                    • HurryUpAndDrink
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 08-23-13
                                      • 13017

                                      #19
                                      well, that blows

                                      australia players were banned from 888poker and pokerstars too

                                      its a disgrace if u ask me
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388189

                                        #20
                                        Australia wants to keep money in the country at legal shops

                                        good for them
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                                        • steven12
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 02-23-17
                                          • 185

                                          #21
                                          When I decide to move any country directly Betfair or Pinny restrict that country.
                                          What a bad chance.
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                                          • steven12
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 02-23-17
                                            • 185

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                            Try Fairlay shar bear. True Pinny odds. Like a replica.
                                            nothing can replace Pinny or Betfair
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                                            • Hareeba!
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 07-01-06
                                              • 36774

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                              Australia wants to keep money in the country at legal shops

                                              good for them
                                              except that the "legal shops" won't to take our bets!
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                                              • shari91
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 02-23-10
                                                • 32661

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                                except that the "legal shops" won't to take our bets!
                                                Yeah unfortunately for someone like you this just adds to a never-ending shit show as far as the books go here. For me... yes it's horrible but other than one book, no one else cares to limit me so I can just bet what I want. At a horrific price, mind you
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                                                • TheMoneyShot
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                                                  • 02-14-07
                                                  • 28672

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Barrakuda
                                                  Except their market maker appears to have ditched them. Nothing avail. at Fairlay for last 24 hours.
                                                  I just noticed that. Haven't wagered since Saturday night. This doesn't look good.
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                                                  • Ruifgalmeida
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 04-23-08
                                                    • 2024

                                                    #26
                                                    Pinnacle was leave from all the major European, American and Asia, how are they still in business.?
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                                                    • Hareeba!
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 07-01-06
                                                      • 36774

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Ruifgalmeida
                                                      Pinnacle was leave from all the major European, American and Asia, how are they still in business.?
                                                      still accessible via agents
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                                                      • steven12
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 02-23-17
                                                        • 185

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                                        still accessible via agents
                                                        Why via agents ? maybe they are one of famous agents
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                                                        • littlekona
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 11-19-15
                                                          • 5241

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                          I just noticed that. Haven't wagered since Saturday night. This doesn't look good.
                                                          From what I heard from one of the pinny market maker bots was He was getting hit with ddos attack and was hoping to be back up very soon....within 24 hours....
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388189

                                                            #30
                                                            simple
                                                            use brokers
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                                                            • Wohlford
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 11-12-11
                                                              • 292

                                                              #31
                                                              Cancelling pending wagers is just wrong. There could be a lot of equity in those wagers.
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                                                              • k13
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 07-16-10
                                                                • 18053

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
                                                                Why do people not fight this???
                                                                Get online poker back in the US and fight it.

                                                                Because the only countries that can fight anything or the ones that are on the same page Poland/Korea/Japan/Hungary

                                                                All these mut countries would never agree on anything in protests.
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                                                                • HeeeHAWWWW
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 06-13-08
                                                                  • 5487

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Wohlford
                                                                  Cancelling pending wagers is just wrong. There could be a lot of equity in those wagers.
                                                                  It might be legally unavoidable, but even then they really should buy out the bet equity based on current prices.
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