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  • Poisec
    SBR MVP
    • 07-22-18
    • 1215

    #1
    OrbitX where is the cash out function?



    I placed a lay bet on UE Sant Andreu, willing to wait for the start of the match and see if I can cash out for a profit.

    Don't mind entering the stake manually but still wondering if there is a cash out button that I did not see?
  • thespeculator
    SBR MVP
    • 09-09-08
    • 2999

    #2
    there is no cash out . You have to do it yourself
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    • littlekona
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 11-19-15
      • 5241

      #3
      Of late I have had issues with the sports side on orbitx taking forever to load..the horses are fine though just sports very slow to load near impossible for me to wager esp on Mobil...anyone else have issues
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      • infotimbo
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 10-24-18
        • 837

        #4
        Originally posted by littlekona
        Of late I have had issues with the sports side on orbitx taking forever to load..the horses are fine though just sports very slow to load near impossible for me to wager esp on Mobil...anyone else have issues
        not recently, but occasionally, yes, Especially on live markets
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        • Optional
          Administrator
          • 06-10-10
          • 60645

          #5
          Originally posted by Poisec



          I placed a lay bet on UE Sant Andreu, willing to wait for the start of the match and see if I can cash out for a profit.

          Don't mind entering the stake manually but still wondering if there is a cash out button that I did not see?
          You cash out through the same agent you deposited to them with.
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          • Poisec
            SBR MVP
            • 07-22-18
            • 1215

            #6
            Originally posted by Optional
            You cash out through the same agent you deposited to them with.
            I meant the hedging option (which is called cash out at betfair). But thespeculator answered my question, there is not this option (surprising but will get used to it I guess)
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            • thespeculator
              SBR MVP
              • 09-09-08
              • 2999

              #7
              Originally posted by littlekona
              Of late I have had issues with the sports side on orbitx taking forever to load..the horses are fine though just sports very slow to load near impossible for me to wager esp on Mobil...anyone else have issues
              yes , and I am having the connection speed going slow all the time.

              very frustrating
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              • Optional
                Administrator
                • 06-10-10
                • 60645

                #8
                Originally posted by Poisec
                I meant the hedging option (which is called cash out at betfair). But thespeculator answered my question, there is not this option (surprising but will get used to it I guess)
                Oh I see

                My mistake.
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                • Poisec
                  SBR MVP
                  • 07-22-18
                  • 1215

                  #9
                  Originally posted by thespeculator
                  yes , and I am having the connection speed going slow all the time.

                  very frustrating
                  I have been using the product for 2 days only but noticed the same thing, and right now there is some unscheduled maintenance and I have trading to do in 30 minutes from now...
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                  • euronet
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 05-25-18
                    • 71

                    #10
                    Also notice that there are two url addresses probably with same company, almost identical.


                    https://orbitexch.com/customer/ (contains 'e')

                    I lost a few hours trying to login orbitexch.com in fact I have account with orbitxch.com (via asianconnect).
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                    • thespeculator
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-09-08
                      • 2999

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Poisec
                      I have been using the product for 2 days only but noticed the same thing, and right now there is some unscheduled maintenance and I have trading to do in 30 minutes from now...
                      in play on horses is horrible today. Red light almost all the time
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                      • Poisec
                        SBR MVP
                        • 07-22-18
                        • 1215

                        #12



                        Odds are the same, but the liquidity is not! I have a stake to Lay @ 1.10, but Betfair shows 16,602 euros, OrbitX shows 27,426 euros.
                        Anyone knows why?
                        Does OrbitX also uses another product? Matchbook?
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                        • Optional
                          Administrator
                          • 06-10-10
                          • 60645

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Poisec



                          Odds are the same, but the liquidity is not! I have a stake to Lay @ 1.10, but Betfair shows 16,602 euros, OrbitX shows 27,426 euros.
                          Anyone knows why?
                          Does OrbitX also uses another product? Matchbook?
                          Does Betfair direct ring-fence players from your country so you are not betting against the entire world possibly?
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                          • littlekona
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 11-19-15
                            • 5241

                            #14
                            Originally posted by thespeculator
                            in play on horses is horrible today. Red light almost all the time
                            9wickets is so much smoother.. too bad many markets are not offered and liquidity low message is in many cases so no bets accepted
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                            • littlekona
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 11-19-15
                              • 5241

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Poisec



                              Odds are the same, but the liquidity is not! I have a stake to Lay @ 1.10, but Betfair shows 16,602 euros, OrbitX shows 27,426 euros.
                              Anyone knows why?
                              Does OrbitX also uses another product? Matchbook?
                              not sure but the liquidty does not match 9wickets either orbitx shows much higher
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                              • Poisec
                                SBR MVP
                                • 07-22-18
                                • 1215

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Optional
                                Does Betfair direct ring-fence players from your country so you are not betting against the entire world possibly?
                                I very doubt that.

                                @ littlekona, I don't like 9wickets for the same reasons as you, I like to place bets on tennis ITF events when there is very little liquidity.
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                                • Poisec
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 07-22-18
                                  • 1215

                                  #17
                                  -Picture 1: Liquidity when I login to my OrbitX account

                                  -Picture 2: Liquidity when I logout

                                  -Picture 3: Liquidity on Betfair.com



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                                  Liquidity on Pictures 2 and 3 is almost the same, however on Picture 1 when I login, the liquidity is much more important.

                                  I worry that it can affect my Lay bets, we know that at Betfair.com you are "in the queue" when placing an unmatched bet (back or lay). I really hope it does not affect my "place in the queue" making it more difficult to get matched?

                                  Just sent an email to their support...
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                                  • Poisec
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 07-22-18
                                    • 1215

                                    #18
                                    Yesterday I thought that the liquidity displayed when I login could be with a different currency than EUROS, however it is not the case.

                                    See here :



                                    That's a 8 EUR stake I just placed on my OrbitX account. So the liquidity displayed is exactly the same amount of my bet.
                                    Strange then, it looks like OrbitX increase the liquidity on purpose to attract big turnover players.
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                                    • sadekmeister
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 04-25-17
                                      • 99

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Poisec
                                      -Picture 1: Liquidity when I login to my OrbitX account

                                      -Picture 2: Liquidity when I logout

                                      -Picture 3: Liquidity on Betfair.com



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                                      Liquidity on Pictures 2 and 3 is almost the same, however on Picture 1 when I login, the liquidity is much more important.

                                      I worry that it can affect my Lay bets, we know that at Betfair.com you are "in the queue" when placing an unmatched bet (back or lay). I really hope it does not affect my "place in the queue" making it more difficult to get matched?

                                      Just sent an email to their support...
                                      Liquidity in Betfair on these screenshots is 60% of Orbit's liquidity. I suppose they just push 60% of your bet to Betfair and the rest is their risk. Probably forced by Betfair to do that way.
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                                      • Optional
                                        Administrator
                                        • 06-10-10
                                        • 60645

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by sadekmeister
                                        Liquidity in Betfair on these screenshots is 60% of Orbit's liquidity. I suppose they just push 60% of your bet to Betfair and the rest is their risk. Probably forced by Betfair to do that way.
                                        ^^^ sounds like the answer to me.
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                                        • littlekona
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 11-19-15
                                          • 5241

                                          #21
                                          off topic but OrbitX always misgrades Dead heats in horses...does not matter if you back or lay always graded as a loser and have to contact AC88 CS and upline and prove it was graded wrong...just happened again Turfway Park race 2 tonight...annoying and ties up funds!
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                                          • frodsen
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 10-17-18
                                            • 17

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by sadekmeister
                                            Liquidity in Betfair on these screenshots is 60% of Orbit's liquidity. I suppose they just push 60% of your bet to Betfair and the rest is their risk. Probably forced by Betfair to do that way.
                                            It was similar in 21bet, which I described in this post:


                                            It ended with disaster, dozens of players have not received withdrawals for months. I'm trying to withdraw my balance since May... What does MGA do? Nothing. My complaint to SBR was also not considered.
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                                            • Optional
                                              Administrator
                                              • 06-10-10
                                              • 60645

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by frodsen

                                              It was similar in 21bet, which I described in this post:


                                              It ended with disaster, dozens of players have not received withdrawals for months. I'm trying to withdraw my balance since May... What does MGA do? Nothing. My complaint to SBR was also not considered.
                                              I'm sure your complaint was considered Frodsen.

                                              You were probably told the same as everyone else, that they had taken a financial hit but guaranteed to get everyone paid as they traded out of it?


                                              The last person with a complaint I see that has been paid was on December 1st. Don't give up hope.
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                                              • Poisec
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 07-22-18
                                                • 1215

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by littlekona
                                                off topic but OrbitX always misgrades Dead heats in horses...does not matter if you back or lay always graded as a loser and have to contact AC88 CS and upline and prove it was graded wrong...just happened again Turfway Park race 2 tonight...annoying and ties up funds!
                                                Strange because it is the same with Betkeen, you email them and they modify it manually it seems (they are very quick to do though).
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                                                • littlekona
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 11-19-15
                                                  • 5241

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Poisec
                                                  Strange because it is the same with Betkeen, you email them and they modify it manually it seems (they are very quick to do though).
                                                  Orbitx is a bit slower...Regardless the software should automatically handle dead heats and late scratches..it doesn't.. wonder why as im sure main betfair does
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                                                  • thespeculator
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 09-09-08
                                                    • 2999

                                                    #26
                                                    is orbitx down for anyone else. I can login , but no markets.
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                                                    • Poisec
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 07-22-18
                                                      • 1215

                                                      #27
                                                      Yes apparently it is because of an issue on Betfair https://maintenance.betfair.com/?ref...r.com/exchange
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                                                      • Poisec
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 07-22-18
                                                        • 1215

                                                        #28
                                                        It's back now.


                                                        #addict
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                                                        • Poisec
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 07-22-18
                                                          • 1215

                                                          #29
                                                          Down again.
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                                                          • thespeculator
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 09-09-08
                                                            • 2999

                                                            #30
                                                            it's back up but really slow!!!!!!
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                                                            • thespeculator
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-09-08
                                                              • 2999

                                                              #31
                                                              effin cost me today. The site locks up in the middle of a race.
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                                                              • littlekona
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 11-19-15
                                                                • 5241

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by thespeculator
                                                                effin cost me today. The site locks up in the middle of a race.
                                                                Yep, I basically only use for USA races now where 9wickets has low liquidity rule...9wickets site and Mobil blows it away but liquidity issues and limited markets sucks
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                                                                • thespeculator
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 09-09-08
                                                                  • 2999

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by littlekona
                                                                  Yep, I basically only use for USA races now where 9wickets has low liquidity rule...9wickets site and Mobil blows it away but liquidity issues and limited markets sucks
                                                                  the in play delays at orbit is getting to be absurd. Almost 7 seconds, how is it at 9 wickets. Back when i used Betfair i think it was a 2 second delay
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                                                                  • littlekona
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 11-19-15
                                                                    • 5241

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by thespeculator
                                                                    the in play delays at orbit is getting to be absurd. Almost 7 seconds, how is it at 9 wickets. Back when i used Betfair i think it was a 2 second delay
                                                                    9wickets is instant...the platform is 100x superior esp the Mobil then orbitx BUT the limitations of sports markets and the liquidity rule suck...I have been using orbitx only for USA horses but man when I have funds there and can’t transfer out when up line is on break and have to use for sports esp live it is so frustrating
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