Befair White Labels via Brokers, my thoughts + your help!

**Alfa1234** · 01-07-19, 07:56 AM

Play with brokers/agents and switch regularly. The accounts will get recycled so you'll get a different one each time you switch. Don't use the white labels as they have to take a stake in your bets and will not appreciate getting a long time winner.

**dealer wins** · 01-07-19, 08:03 AM

Betfair wouldnt care one jot about your system, the only thing that could happen is you would be liable for premium charges if you win a great amount with minimal commission paid.

**He'sNameIsWinter** · 01-07-19, 08:20 AM

Thanks for tips, but still I want to find a solution for my loophole I found. I spent over year and a half finding one. Using BF is not an option, I'm from a country that has to pay 6.5% from winnings and in my scheme this 6,5% makes me a minus on some outcomes in the football match. A 3% deduction makes it a little plus (not speaking on other outcomes), so you have to understand me - I ve spent a lot of time (and nerves) - would you give up if you found yourself a system that is like 99,9% a winner, or you would try to find a solution, to implement this and cash in?

**He'sNameIsWinter** · 01-07-19, 08:24 AM

Youknow - one cannot be too careful, even with BF. Some years ago there was a bet in correct score market, that now is divided into two bets. Its the AUQ, now there are AUQ home and AUQ away separate bets. I think there was a loophole that BF found out and eliminated it, so people cannot cash in. In my case - BF can lover the odds so low - I cannot win all the time. Like I said - you cannot be too careful, in my case - I might not invent something like this again in my life

**Optional** · 01-07-19, 08:56 AM

A 99.9% winning system is obviously exploiting something, and I'm really surprised you are managing to use it at all without detection if that is the case.

And you're correct thinking white label sites won't be any use if you plan to win at that rate, even for low amounts on each one.

**He'sNameIsWinter** · 01-07-19, 09:35 AM

Ive cracked Dr. Slicers bet. Haven't tried it out yet - first I'm not comfortable using all bets in BF, coz they might figure it out and make they correcions (lower odds, or banning me or smth else). Yes one factor is exploited - cant tell you more.

And BF 6,5% on winnings wouldnt make this 99,9% sure, if there was at least 3% on winning bets then in my system one outcome could be 0 - worst case scenario.

Ive spent year and a half to figure this out, and Im not mathematician

**Optional** · 01-07-19, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by He'sNameIsWinter

Ive cracked Dr. Slicers bet. Haven't tried it out yet - first I'm not comfortable using all bets in BF, coz they might figure it out and make they correcions (lower odds, or banning me or smth else). Yes one factor is exploited - cant tell you more.

And BF 6,5% on winnings wouldnt make this 99,9% sure, if there was at least 3% on winning bets then in my system one outcome could be 0 - worst case scenario.

Ive spent year and a half to figure this out, and Im not mathematician

Well that would be awesome!

I hope you are right.

Dr Slicer’s Criteria

The criteria for this method include

Placing 2 bets before kick off:
a. The First bet is Laying 0-0 correct score at half time
b. The Second bet is guaranteed to lose should the first bet win

If the first bet loses, the score will be 0-0 at half-time.

A third bet is placed at half time and an adjustment of the second bet may be needed.

Dr Slicer didn’t say what bets 2 and 3 were. Apparently, he claimed that using a staking strategy, he was guaranteed a profit between 9 and 12% per match.
There was a 3rd criterion and, as I will explain later, this criterion tells me that something is amiss.

The home team has to have a clear advantage.

Dr Slicer’s Holy Grail Betfair Strategy – Debunked? – Exploitative Betting

https://exploitativebetting.co.uk/dr-slicers-holy-grail-betfair-strategy-debunked/

**He'sNameIsWinter** · 01-07-19, 10:28 AM

a variant of it, but yeah some of the bets lose, some win, and one in particulary crosses over and can be exploited to cut other liabilities. I havent seen the original, so i cant tell that IVE CRACKED, but my variant works, in my case it doesnt have to be a clear favorite, but equal teams gives the best ROI

**He'sNameIsWinter** · 01-07-19, 10:34 AM

I got frustrated to in-play trade horses for living for past five years (still got good results, and could live from it here in Latvia), but I cant progress, kinda stuck to results, and it got into routine also.

**He'sNameIsWinter** · 01-07-19, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by Optional

Well that would be awesome!

I hope you are right.

Dr Slicer’s Criteria

The criteria for this method include

Placing 2 bets before kick off:
a. The First bet is Laying 0-0 correct score at half time
b. The Second bet is guaranteed to lose should the first bet win

If the first bet loses, the score will be 0-0 at half-time.

A third bet is placed at half time and an adjustment of the second bet may be needed.

Dr Slicer didn’t say what bets 2 and 3 were. Apparently, he claimed that using a staking strategy, he was guaranteed a profit between 9 and 12% per match.
There was a 3rd criterion and, as I will explain later, this criterion tells me that something is amiss.

The home team has to have a clear advantage.

https://exploitativebetting.co.uk/dr...tegy-debunked/

VERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY far from it

**Optional** · 01-07-19, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by He'sNameIsWinter

I got frustrated to in-play trade horses for living for past five years (still got good results, and could live from it here in Latvia), but I cant progress, kinda stuck to results, and it got into routine also.

Well I sure hope that when people search for the guy that did crack it, they will see we heard about it on SBR first.

**dealer wins** · 01-07-19, 11:55 AM

Cant you use Matchbook or Betdaq, both 2%. At least for some of the Bets?

**He'sNameIsWinter** · 01-07-19, 11:56 AM

well something from Slicer's bet is in my system, but the solution from the site you gave here is verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry very far. But on other hand - Slicer was very mysterious, and didnt reveal all details on his holy grail method. But like I said, I wanted to crack it (or make my variant of it) and it took me year and a half to invent it. Problem with it is - I want to make from theory of my thick notebooks in practice.

Problem nr. 1 - to lower BF comision - that for me is 6,5% - in one of outcomes it eats into profit, makes a little minus - so its not 99,9% anymore, if the comission is lower, we can come out into zeros, and that is good, I havent calculated how much the ROI is, but on one rare ocassion you get two bets to win, making over 100%, but that is a rare outcome, it depends on many factors...

So thats why Im doing my research to lower the comission, maybe use those damn white labels as my system has a special market BF has it, if it is too expensive to use my BF trading account, then maybe via white label, or mix them with other bets via betdaq or smarkets..

so Im trying to find a solution, to get this system start to work from theory into practice

**He'sNameIsWinter** · 01-07-19, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by dealer wins

Cant you use Matchbook or Betdaq, both 2%. At least for some of the Bets?

One special bet has only BF and BF sportsbook. So whether BF (that is too expensive for me - 6,5%) or white label, cant think of other solution, to start it running

yes Im thinking that one of my lay bets could have similiral liquidity on betdaq
although I dont have an betdaq account (Im from banned country), probably via an agent. Which reliable agent offers betdaq? Any suggestions?

**He'sNameIsWinter** · 01-07-19, 12:22 PM

and Im not the only one - legendary soccerwidow - gives some hints on this matter, that it is possible to crack Dr. Slicers holy grail bet

**Poisec** · 01-09-19, 05:29 AM

Well I am sure there are plenty of traders who have magic strategies, you are far from the only one. I mean I have a friend who has the premium charge on his account, he is a professional trader (originally in the financial markets), of course he will not let me know his strategy, but I can guess a little how it can work.

As long as you place unmatched bets, are patient enough to wait for the bet to be unmatched, if you choose your markets carefully you should have a expectancy gain above 0 (which is great because bookmakers have at least 5% margin on their odds).

**Poisec** · 01-09-19, 05:30 AM

You can use OrbitX, I am not sure what limits are you talking about? Do you have a very high turnover?

By the way I am not sure you use a ladder together with OrbitX (never asked them), do you need a software for your strategy?

**Poisec** · 01-09-19, 05:55 AM

Originally posted by Optional

Well that would be awesome!

I hope you are right.

Dr Slicer’s Criteria

The criteria for this method include

Placing 2 bets before kick off:
a. The First bet is Laying 0-0 correct score at half time
b. The Second bet is guaranteed to lose should the first bet win

If the first bet loses, the score will be 0-0 at half-time.

A third bet is placed at half time and an adjustment of the second bet may be needed.

Dr Slicer didn’t say what bets 2 and 3 were. Apparently, he claimed that using a staking strategy, he was guaranteed a profit between 9 and 12% per match.
There was a 3rd criterion and, as I will explain later, this criterion tells me that something is amiss.

The home team has to have a clear advantage.

https://exploitativebetting.co.uk/dr...tegy-debunked/

I think the 2nd bet to place is on the "Next goal" market, you bet on the home team to score first (that's why it says "The home team has to have a clear advantage."). It is just a trading strategy but won't be profitable in all matches, if it wins most of the time then it is good.

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