Bet Ibc fraud

[komarbog]

Hi everyone,

I just opened account at Bet-Ibc agent,and they charge it 10%. 5 % for express payment and 5% for multiple account. I asked what is multiple account. They told me i already have account at Bet-Ibc under other email???This is first time(and last) i open some account under agents. I made deposit 500Eur and balance is 445. (500-5%)-(500-5%) and also they are saying i deposit 495 eur.
I didnt start playing they practically stole 55Eur.

[cr777]

thats why I dont use betibc

[Optional]

If you submit a sportsbook complaint form we can ask them about this for you.

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbook-complaint/

[komarbog]

Thank you. I just did that.

[Alfie White]

Wait, wait why did they charge you 5% x2 exactly?

One 5% is for ewallet deposit? Did you send funds to merchant account or private one?
And another 5% is for getting access to Mollybet tool?

[Alfie White]

Also, do your research, there are very trustworthy agents and those crooks are nowhere to be compared to some good names out there.

[cr777]

Wait, wait why did they charge you 5% x2 exactly?

One 5% is for ewallet deposit? Did you send funds to merchant account or private one?
And another 5% is for getting access to Mollybet tool?

they also charge 5% more if u want them to deposit it to your account faster

[lonnie55]

Their USP is best available Pinnacle limits

[Alfie White]

What!?!?
Ahahahahahahah, oh wow.
And people actually use services of those clowns?
Sportmarket has automated deposits via Skrill/Neteller (the process is the same as you would deposit to any other bookmaker) and they only charge 1% in and out; but this is completely new level of thieving... I still can't believe this, honestly.

@lonnie55
Well, given that they are stealing money from the players right from the registration page, it is easy to take position and later limit winners. So baaaaad. Just wow.

[komarbog]

They are holding your money 24 hours. If you want fast withdraw or deposit they take 5% for that.(express)

[lonnie55]

What!?!?
Ahahahahahahah, oh wow.
And people actually use services of those clowns?
Sportmarket has automated deposits via Skrill/Neteller (the process is the same as you would deposit to any other bookmaker) and they only charge 1% in and out; but this is completely new level of thieving... I still can't believe this, honestly.

@lonnie55
Well, given that they are stealing money from the players right from the registration page, it is easy to take position and later limit winners. So baaaaad. Just wow.

Charging (high) fees is stealing in your perception?

[Alfie White]

If you are using private Skrill/Neteller account for your business, you have no reason to charge any fee whatsoever given that you don't have any expenses on your end. Should a customer pay deposit fee, % for use of the Mollybet tool, % for "express withdrawal", maybe even % for "account transfer"?

So yes, charging fees for something that is FREE is stealing.

Not to mention lack of security on those private Paysafe accounts + inability to reach Skrill VIP status by using them.

[lonnie55]

So yes, charging fees for something that is FREE is stealing.

steal
/stiːl/
verb

• 1.
  take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.

[Alfie White]

So we agree on that, good!

[Optional]

If you are using private Skrill/Neteller account for your business, you have no reason to charge any fee whatsoever given that you don't have any expenses on your end. Should a customer pay deposit fee, % for use of the Mollybet tool, % for "express withdrawal", maybe even % for "account transfer"?

So yes, charging fees for something that is FREE is stealing.

Not to mention lack of security on those private Paysafe accounts + inability to reach Skrill VIP status by using them.

They make an offer.

You choose to accept or decline.


When did people stop learning about self responsibility and start calling this stealing?

About the time the millennials "matured" I am guessing.

[lonnie55]

To everyone: Alfie has an agenda against Bet-IBC. I personally use Asianconnect, Sportmarket and Bet-IBC (which is also how I'd rank them) and I'm happy with all of them. Bet-IBC has the highest fees but as aforementioned the biggest limits at Pinnacle. Read about their fees before you use them and you are fine. The reason why I criticize them is that they are connected to acc-ex, a site which sells b365 accounts.

[Alfie White]

Ok, let us rephrase that to "completely unfair and bad conditions", does that sound better?

Principle is the same, regardless how you name it.

[lonnie55]

Ok, let us rephrase that to "completely unfair and bad conditions", does that sound better?

Principle is the same, regardless how you name it.

Fairness is a subjective thing Alfie

[Optional]

Ok, let us rephrase that to "completely unfair and bad conditions", does that sound better?

Principle is the same, regardless how you name it.

I am wary of them due the acc-ax connection as well.

And think those fees sound very high.

But lots of people mention the fees. I don't think they are hidden.

[lonnie55]

Fairness is a subjective thing Alfie

See it this way Alfie: Maybe the reason why they charge high fees is that they pay high salaries to their employees whilst all the other agents pay lower salaries. So what you call "unfair" might be fair from their point of view.

[Alfie White]

@lonnie55, that is the least of my concerns - I am interested in +EV and +ROI, adding 5% fees there diminish a lot of value and charge of the Mollybet platform use also diminish long term profit/value from the odds; so I am terribly subjective here and these are exclusively my thoughts why I find them very bad and unfair towards customers.

@Opti, I see your point, you are correct. The fees aren't hidden and customers are advised, but as stated above in my response to lonnie, I find that appalling in the long run profit-wise; also, imposing additional charges for me, as a customer and raking my profits additionally is something I can't agree with.

[Alfa1234]

To everyone: Alfie has an agenda against Bet-IBC. I personally use Asianconnect, Sportmarket and Bet-IBC (which is also how I'd rank them) and I'm happy with all of them. Bet-IBC has the highest fees but as aforementioned the biggest limits at Pinnacle. Read about their fees before you use them and you are fine. The reason why I criticize them is that they are connected to acc-ex, a site which sells b365 accounts.

How are their Pinnacle limits compared to Sportmarket? And have you been using them for a long time (and winning)? In other words, do you think the limits would go down if you win a while or is this really their USP?

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@Opti, I see your point, you are correct. The fees aren't hidden and customers are advised, but as stated above in my response to lonnie, I find that appalling in the long run profit-wise; also, imposing additional charges for me, as a customer and raking my profits additionally is something I can't agree with.

For me personally, I'd choose another broker too unless Bet-IBC had something I really needed that overcame those costs.

I guess when people can't get as much as they want down other ways it becomes worth it.

[lonnie55]

How are their Pinnacle limits compared to Sportmarket? And have you been using them for a long time (and winning)? In other words, do you think the limits would go down if you win a while or is this really their USP?

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3507635-asianconnect-asked-me-id-pvc-p3.html#post28244292

I've been using them for some months but as I said it's only my third option and my turnover is still too low (approx. 80% of my turnover is at AC and AM). So, no nothing has changed yet limit-wise.

[moojoo]

Are they charging another 5% for withdrawal? Maybe they should cap fees,500€ on 10000 deposit is to much...
But as Lonnie said,you choose by accepting their T&C.

[Alfa1234]

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...l#post28244292

I've been using them for some months but as I said it's only my third option and my turnover is still too low (approx. 80% of my turnover is at AC and AM). So, no nothing has changed yet limit-wise.

Thanks, I see they have roughly the same limits for SBO and IBC as everyone else.

[kacooo]

they also charged fees on winning bets
bets placed at odds 2 paid at 1.9
placed at 1,9 paid at 1,78
I used their service for a week did not see they are stealing on bets won
when I asked them about that, (at first they told that commission is 0.75 on turnover) they just told me to stop complaining and I stopped using their service

[infotimbo]

they also charged fees on winning bets
bets placed at odds 2 paid at 1.9
placed at 1,9 paid at 1,78
I used their service for a week did not see they are stealing on bets won
when I asked them about that, (at first they told that commission is 0.75 on turnover) they just told me to stop complaining and I stopped using their service

you're talking about the VIP-IBC tool, I guess? Were those bets placed at an exchange?

I can't remember fees that high, but there always is some on the exchanges. Tha fact that they are not visible on their website (nor announced when changed) was a major downpoint for me as well though. I don't think I ever really figured out how Matchbook bets were graded for example (with money detucted a day after and so on), it's just not transparent at all

[Optional]

Hi everyone,

I just opened account at Bet-Ibc agent,and they charge it 10%. 5 % for express payment and 5% for multiple account. I asked what is multiple account. They told me i already have account at Bet-Ibc under other email???This is first time(and last) i open some account under agents. I made deposit 500Eur and balance is 445. (500-5%)-(500-5%) and also they are saying i deposit 495 eur.
I didnt start playing they practically stole 55Eur.

Bet-IBC have replied to our enquiry about your issues there.


They claim that you had held a Matchbook account through them for quite a while but Matchbook suspended the account and did not explain to them why.

A couple of days ago you used their live chat to request they make you a second account to use Matchbook. They refused.

They say that shortly afterward you connected to live chat from the same IP and created a new account using a different email address.


They say the only additional fee they charged was 5% on the deposit amount, which is in their terms as the standard fee for anyone who wants a second account there.



They also sent a copy of a live chat session where you start the session using the new email account and then when asked what email your Skrill deposit will come from, give them the email address from the original account.

[lonnie55]

Thanks, I see they have roughly the same limits for SBO and IBC as everyone else.

SBO and IBC same limits like other agents, yes

[kacooo]

@optional
you probably meant to reply to the first post, not mine

[lonnie55]

they also charged fees on winning bets
bets placed at odds 2 paid at 1.9
placed at 1,9 paid at 1,78
I used their service for a week did not see they are stealing on bets won
when I asked them about that, (at first they told that commission is 0.75 on turnover) they just told me to stop complaining and I stopped using their service

Can you provide a screenshot please?

[kacooo]

unfortunately not as I can't access my vip ibc account because I don't have money there anymore and when your account is empty you can't log in

[Foosball Champ]

thanks for the heads up. i thought that they were legit

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@optional
you probably meant to reply to the first post, not mine

Sorry.

I have fixed my post now.