Name your broker for Asian books

**Alfie White** · 12-23-20, 11:12 AM

So, how exactly did you "actually did a comparison"?

Also, they (vip-ibc) are well known to take fees all over the place and have very ill business practices, should never be trusted imo.

**Jogador** · 12-23-20, 11:23 AM

So, scroll to my reply referring "actually did a comparison", point the mouse over the included link, click on it, view posted picture.

Vip-ibc do have their reputation, and that's exactly why I shared the info. You're welcome.

**Alfie White** · 12-23-20, 11:37 AM

You shared wrong info - you have used (most likely) a demo account where they hide the commissions, of course; and have been trusting their words in email correspondence without ACTUALLY placing a bet (which would be real confirmation, like lonnie55 did). It is well known they will do ANYTHING to make you deposit and then they can use dodgy tactics to charge you up to 15% of withdrawal fee if you are unsatisfied with the services provided.

So, really sorry, but I have nothing to thank you for. You made a doo-doo and posted very incorrect/misleading claims.

**Jogador** · 12-23-20, 02:15 PM

relax high horse alfie

**king7811** · 12-30-20, 11:03 AM

Hello, I'm a client of bet-ibc and it’s nice that they support multiple languages, customer services are very fast to process the deposits and withdrawals, and although the commissions are high, here I feel safe because they don’t limit your accounts. Another broker I heard from my friends that is trust is Acc-ex, they open account under requests and open accounts such as betfair, sbobet…

But I recommend you to check the websites of these brokers and read reviews about them to know if they suit you.

**lonnie55** · 12-30-20, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by king7811

Hello, I'm a client of bet-ibc and it’s nice that they support multiple languages, customer services are very fast to process the deposits and withdrawals, and although the commissions are high, here I feel safe because they don’t limit your accounts. Another broker I heard from my friends that is trust is Acc-ex, they open account under requests and open accounts such as betfair, sbobet…

Actually acc-ex belongs to Bet-IBC

**Ruifgalmeida** · 12-31-20, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by king7811

Hello, I'm a client of bet-ibc and it’s nice that they support multiple languages, customer services are very fast to process the deposits and withdrawals, and although the commissions are high, here I feel safe because they don’t limit your accounts. Another broker I heard from my friends that is trust is Acc-ex, they open account under requests and open accounts such as betfair, sbobet…

But I recommend you to check the websites of these brokers and read reviews about them to know if they suit you.

betibc are awful, you realize that there are other brokers that dont charge any fees and have the same service that betibc, not to mention they have the must horrible customer service in the planet

**Poisec** · 01-01-21, 05:01 AM

Originally posted by king7811

Hello, I'm a client of bet-ibc and it’s nice that they support multiple languages, customer services are very fast to process the deposits and withdrawals, and although the commissions are high, here I feel safe because they don’t limit your accounts. Another broker I heard from my friends that is trust is Acc-ex, they open account under requests and open accounts such as betfair, sbobet…

But I recommend you to check the websites of these brokers and read reviews about them to know if they suit you.

Better stay away from bet-ibc / acc-ex.

**punintended** · 01-01-21, 12:25 PM

Are limits higher if you open an account directly with an Asian book instead of using them with a broker on a multi-book platform?

Like, maybe betting directly with SBO I can get $20 limits instead of $10?

**nyplayer33** · 01-01-21, 06:35 PM

Do any of these agents help with getting you on euro poker sites ??

**Ruifgalmeida** · 01-02-21, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by punintended

Are limits higher if you open an account directly with an Asian book instead of using them with a broker on a multi-book platform?

Like, maybe betting directly with SBO I can get $20 limits instead of $10?

It's pointless getting and account with sbo at a broker, my last 3bets I made with them where all winners and where all cancelled post game

**Camma23** · 01-05-21, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by punintended

Are limits higher if you open an account directly with an Asian book instead of using them with a broker on a multi-book platform?

Like, maybe betting directly with SBO I can get $20 limits instead of $10?

Forget about sbo, it's actually worse than 1xbet. ultra tiny volumes accepted and 90% of winning bets voided. I removed for months now and asked to every agent to remove them from their offer as well

**punintended** · 01-05-21, 12:35 PM

Mostly joking about SBO. How is this with other books? ISN, Singbet, etc. I know Pinny limits are higher than what you get with the brokers.

**Camma23** · 01-05-21, 01:01 PM

can't help you with this bcs I haven't direct access to those bookies. I only can confirm you that pinny has higher volumes on direct site

ps not that much, but higher

**king7811** · 01-06-21, 10:28 AM

Well, so far I don’t have trouble with bet-ibc, the customer service always replies to me very fast but I will be careful now, it’s good to read your opinion.

**soru** · 01-07-21, 04:17 PM

[QUOTE=littlekona;29645348]I moved 95% of my horse plays to orbitx for backs and whitehorse for lays....Fairlay horse main market maker for horses is horrible(the excellent one stopped about 2 years ago) ill use fairlay for horses on occasion but prices are not betfair they id say 10% off or so.

Hi, i'm going to start trading on horses and i tried to trade on betinasia with turf7, they have back and lay option but there are not all the english race and i don't think there's enough liquidity. My question is: is there enough market liquidity on whitehorse? can i expect enough market to make my lay bet? I would especially use the back and lay option.

**littlekona** · 01-07-21, 07:15 PM

[QUOTE=soru;30014540]

Originally posted by littlekona

I moved 95% of my horse plays to orbitx for backs and whitehorse for lays....Fairlay horse main market maker for horses is horrible(the excellent one stopped about 2 years ago) ill use fairlay for horses on occasion but prices are not betfair they id say 10% off or so.

Hi, i'm going to start trading on horses and i tried to trade on betinasia with turf7, they have back and lay option but there are not all the english race and i don't think there's enough liquidity. My question is: is there enough market liquidity on whitehorse? can i expect enough market to make my lay bet? I would especially use the back and lay option.

whitehorse for UK-IRE-AUS good liquidity no worries, USA tracks more tricky sometimes as they need 1500Eur to open markets so sometimes they do not open until few min until post esp the smaller tracks and sometimes they dont open until live even. It is what it is and the best option for USA who want Lay option

**kursonik** · 02-04-21, 11:19 PM

Is it legal to have an Orbit Exchange account with several brokers at the same time with Orbitx rules?

**Alfie White** · 02-05-21, 02:56 AM

There is no issue with that, you can have one per agent without issues as (supposedly) agents do not share KYC data with OrbitX. I mean, if they do and they are not stating that in Privacy Policy and/or T&C you can go full Court GDPR on their asses

)

Of course, if you plan to manipulate markets and/or funds pass... I will refrain from profanities.

**Duo42** · 02-05-21, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by Alfie White

There is no issue with that, you can have one per agent without issues as (supposedly) agents do not share KYC data with OrbitX. I mean, if they do and they are not stating that in Privacy Policy and/or T&C you can go full Court GDPR on their asses

)
Of course, if you plan to manipulate markets and/or funds pass... I will refrain from profanities.

Yeah, of course they don't do that.... I wonder why my liquidity suddenly decreased with all of my Orbit accounts at the same time.

**Alfie White** · 02-05-21, 02:10 PM

Can you "peer review" that? Meaning if you can compare the limits with someone on the side?

Are you limits 1/1 with Betfair now or different and how much if so?

**weeminer** · 02-10-21, 04:57 PM

Been reading through the forum and haven't found a straight answer....

It appears that all the asian brokers don't accept US players. Is that correct?

I've read people saying to VPN and sign up for a "bitcoin only" account, but don't see that option on any of the reputable broker websites. Is there something I'm missing, or a safe way to get a brokerage account from the US?

Don't want to put in fake personal information, in case I need to do an ID verification for a payout. I have dual citizenship, and an EU passport from a country that they do accept customers from, if that could be of any help.

Appreciate any insights or explanation. Thanks!

**Optional** · 02-10-21, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by weeminer

Been reading through the forum and haven't found a straight answer....

It appears that all the asian brokers don't accept US players. Is that correct?

I've read people saying to VPN and sign up for a "bitcoin only" account, but don't see that option on any of the reputable broker websites. Is there something I'm missing, or a safe way to get a brokerage account from the US?

Don't want to put in fake personal information, in case I need to do an ID verification for a payout. I have dual citizenship, and an EU passport from a country that they do accept customers from, if that could be of any help.

Appreciate any insights or explanation. Thanks!

It's hard to get straight public info as brokers do not want to be seen to be openly breaching bookmaker terms.

PM our poster LittleKona and ask him the process for getting accounts open without risk of broker confiscation.

**weeminer** · 02-10-21, 07:16 PM

Makes sense. Thanks for the info Optional!

**Cantoner** · 03-18-21, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by Motorhead11

Have asked their support about bong88.

They offer it, yet: you may have your full balance confiscated if you have your real ip leaked, you may have your bets voided as abnormal, there is 90% forced position which means limits will be joke (you deposited 1000usd and you will have 10000usd in acc).

I am thinking to open account tbh, yet, it is obvious that i am searching for troubles lol.

Doubting what are IBC and SBO doing to make brokers taking 90% position??
Or actually Broker wont lose the money, it is just an excuse the cut the betting limit?

**tingasdt** · 03-25-21, 02:24 AM

Hi guys

Can anyone confirm that Brokestorm is no longer working with Fairexchange (everyone got end of relationship message from FairE since 15/3)?

Can anyone confirm if Whitehorse no longer offers cricket markets?

Thank you.

**deadley** · 03-26-21, 08:23 AM

Originally posted by tingasdt

Hi guys
Can anyone confirm if Whitehorse no longer offers cricket markets?
Thank you.

Yes, whitehorse stopped cricket market, I did confirmed from brokerstorm.

**tingasdt** · 03-26-21, 01:18 PM

Thx,

And do you know if any customers still have fairexchange with Brokerstorm?

At the moment it is still listed as available on their corporate website.

**deadley** · 03-27-21, 06:54 AM

Originally posted by tingasdt

Thx,

And do you know if any customers still have fairexchange with Brokerstorm?

At the moment it is still listed as available on their corporate website.

Don't think they are offering anymore fairexchange, because when I asked them about exchanges they told me only about Orbit or whitehorse.

**tingasdt** · 03-27-21, 10:27 AM

Thx, again.

I was told that they plan to resume action on a reformed Winfair24 shortly.

Originally posted by deadley

Don't think they are offering anymore fairexchange, because when I asked them about exchanges they told me only about Orbit or whitehorse.

**Duo42** · 06-15-21, 08:10 AM

BIA raised my Orbit commission rate from 3% to 4%. I'm considering moving my business to a different agent and hence I'm looking for agents that still offer 3%.

I gathered the following rates:

Bet-Football - Orbit 4%
Odsy88 - Orbit 3%
Brokerstrom - Orbit 3.5%, Winfair 3%
Asianconnect - Orbit 3% (raised to 10% for my account)
BIA - Orbit 3% (raised to 4% for my account)
Premium Tradings - Orbit 4%, FairExchange 4%
SportsMarket - No Exchange

Any other suggestions?

**craftbrewer** · 06-15-21, 08:26 AM

Originally posted by Duo42

BIA raised my Orbit commission rate from 3% to 4%. I'm considering moving my business to a different agent and hence I'm looking for agents that still offer 3%.

I gathered the following rates:

Bet-Football - Orbit 4%
Odsy88 - Orbit 3%
Brokerstrom - Orbit 3.5%, Winfair 3%
Asianconnect - Orbit 3% (raised to 10% for my account)
BIA - Orbit 3% (raised to 4% for my account)
Premium Tradings - Orbit 4%, FairExchange 4%
SportsMarket - No Exchange

Any other suggestions?

How much did you win that made them raise your commission?

**Duo42** · 06-15-21, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by craftbrewer

How much did you win that made them raise your commission?

Not a lot, actually.

Not sure if my account is the only one affected or if they're raising the commission rate for all accounts.

**kursonik** · 06-15-21, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by Duo42

Not a lot, actually.

Not sure if my account is the only one affected or if they're raising the commission rate for all accounts.

Today BIA raised to 4% for my account as well

**littlekona** · 06-15-21, 06:30 PM

AC88 was the place years back but now with 10% commission its unusable. Odsy88 for orbitx/pinny is my #1 since the CS is great and btc payouts are 15 mins..Brokerstorm strong #2 esp for horse lays whitehorse good CS and reliable payments in 24-48 hours or less..