IBC and SBO are going down the drain

**lonnie55** · 01-16-20, 07:15 AM

Originally posted by Optional

I thought the VIP IBC deal was no voids?

only via Skype betting

**lonnie55** · 01-22-20, 08:53 AM

Originally posted by craftbrewer

What do you mean by alternative lines? Could you please give an example of any market where pinnacle have added new lines?

This is another example for additional lines with relatively high limits on a small market:

Actually this match was a pretty risky market as this was the first ever international competitive match a club from Brunei took part in. So, Pinni could have no idea how strong or weak this team is. b365 opened the line but as there were no moves at the time Pinni copied the line Pinni adopted the opinion of b365's bookmaker, not the market, and they accepted the risk the bookmaker could have been totally wrong, which he was. Why did they add this line though? I have no idea.

Yet, it's very rare Pinni offers those additional lines on small markets.

**tippeo** · 01-23-20, 07:24 AM

I just got the following Message from Sportmarket (I am using Sportmarket Pro):

Please note that IBC have started to void bets placed on smaller leagues (similar to Sing2 - Abnormal bets). Please take this into consideration when placing bets with them.

IBC is becoming more and more a joke bookie!

**lonnie55** · 01-23-20, 07:57 AM

Originally posted by tippeo

I just got the following Message from Sportmarket (I am using Sportmarket Pro):

Please note that IBC have started to void bets placed on smaller leagues (similar to Sing2 - Abnormal bets). Please take this into consideration when placing bets with them.

IBC is becoming more and more a joke bookie!

Avoid steam betting

**Tom R.** · 01-30-20, 02:36 AM

Originally posted by Sawyer

Sbo and IBC limits are much higher in Betinasia then other brokers.

Can you show, for example, some compare (screenshot or just write): price for any match?

**king7811** · 02-15-20, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by lonnie55

This is another example for additional lines with relatively high limits on a small market:

I use VIP as well, although I mostly bet on weekends, I like how they always show the best odds for any bet. Never had a problem yet. although it is better for sportsbooks, it only has 2 exchanges I think.

**lonnie55** · 02-19-20, 05:18 PM

Yesterday I noticed Singbet pre-market limits around 30-40 on a soccer youth match. I can't remember two-digit limits at Singbet, usually they are not below 248

IBC gone, SBO shitty limits, Singbet shitty limits. What's next?

**Motorhead11** · 02-20-20, 04:00 AM

Originally posted by lonnie55

Yesterday I noticed Singbet pre-market limits around 30-40 on a soccer youth match. I can't remember two-digit limits at Singbet, usually they are not below 248

IBC gone, SBO shitty limits, Singbet shitty limits. What's next?

Have seen similar limits in the past as well in some exotιc games.

What's next? Is is obvious. All sharp money will moved to Pinnacle/Sing/Isn, if they are can't handle them they will take measures like IBC/Sbo

**lonnie55** · 02-20-20, 06:10 AM

Oddstorm shows SBO odds but Mollybet does not even list that match

**lonnie55** · 06-09-20, 04:07 PM

IBC and SBO are literally voiding every winning bet right now. Losing bets stand.

Game over.

**Motorhead11** · 06-10-20, 03:23 AM

If sbo and ibc weren't able to hedge smart action, personally believe that sooner or later all asian's will close agents accs and we will be left with pinnacle only. All smart action will moved to pinnacle, hope they will be able to handle it succesfully without further reduce of limits, bigger margin etc.

**craftbrewer** · 06-10-20, 04:19 AM

Originally posted by lonnie55

IBC and SBO are literally voiding every winning bet right now. Losing bets stand.

Game over.

Which broker are you using now that you are still able to place bets with IBC? The only broker I know that is still providing access to IBC is Vodds. They don't have IBC in their list of books but they have a book called SBOIBC which they claim is a combination of IBC and SBO odds. I don't know how it works that they are able to offer such a weird book consisting of combination of 2 different books.

As to SBO, they seem to void bets placed only via brokers. Those, who are from non-restricted countries and are able to use SBO website without brokers, have their bets voided very rarely.

**Motorhead11** · 06-10-20, 04:30 AM

Dafa still accepted direct registrations from some countries.

Sboibc is no longer in vodds, have not seen them last 1-2 weeks. They only had double sbo limits which are joke anyways

**craftbrewer** · 06-10-20, 07:18 AM

Never heard of dafabet voiding bets. Have they also begun to void bets?

**lonnie55** · 06-10-20, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by craftbrewer

Which broker are you using now that you are still able to place bets with IBC?

VIP-IBC, but you're right, meanwhile they removed IBC

**craftbrewer** · 06-10-20, 08:20 AM

Originally posted by lonnie55

VIP-IBC, but you're right, meanwhile they removed IBC

what about dafa? do they void your bets too? I use dafa and none of my bets has been voided so far.

**lonnie55** · 06-10-20, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by craftbrewer

what about dafa? do they void your bets too? I use dafa and none of my bets has been voided so far.

No, Dafa doesn't void bets AFAIK but the limits have become crap. However it's the only option left for most of us, I guess...

**craftbrewer** · 06-10-20, 11:23 AM

I still have pretty good limits in dafabet but they reduced odds for me for the second time. First I had 1 tick less in decimal odds (for example 1.95 instead of 1.96), now my odds is 2 ticks shorter (1.94 instead of 1.96)

**juicername** · 06-11-20, 12:56 PM

Today at Sbobet, a Nba2k sim stream went live only 6 minutes after the game had started.

They didn't void any bets though as they claimed the playtime was completed and the integrity of the game wasn't affected.

Absolute joke.

**juicername** · 06-12-20, 12:25 PM

Now SBObet are just blatantly shutting down sim streams in game they are losing money on.

**Sawyer** · 06-13-20, 01:09 AM

It's very sad to lose IBC and SBO. I'm afraid we lost them guys. They're no longer reliable. They can void any bet. Pinnacle Last Man Standing..

**Honeybadger44** · 06-13-20, 01:51 AM

Originally posted by Motorhead11

If sbo and ibc weren't able to hedge smart action, personally believe that sooner or later all asian's will close agents accs and we will be left with pinnacle only. All smart action will moved to pinnacle, hope they will be able to handle it succesfully without further reduce of limits, bigger margin etc.

Looking from their point of view, without any competition out there, why wouldn't they charge bigger margin? It will help them to handle all that smart action more efficiently and people will be forced to bet with them anyway.

**king7811** · 07-12-20, 06:48 PM

Originally posted by lonnie55

VIP-IBC, but you're right, meanwhile they removed IBC

They removed exactly because they voided bets so often.
But they do have a skype betting service with "No void bets" as one of its selling points.

**parlayXchris** · 07-14-20, 10:58 PM

where do you buy btc at other than CB and CEX

**Optional** · 07-15-20, 04:49 AM

Originally posted by parlayXchris

where do you buy btc at other than CB and CEX

you can look at gemini.com