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  • Colonist
    SBR High Roller
    • 05-24-20
    • 203

    #1
    US Player seeking fixed odds horse racing
    Good morning all,

    First post.

    Am seeking a way to find out which websites offer fixed odds horse racing. The only US facing site that I see that offers this is Bovada. Are there any others?

    I'd also be interested in a way onto overseas exchange wagering for horse racing as well but it seems like they don't accept US customers. Is anyone familiar with working with agents to get action onto these sites? Am aware of Betfair/Betmakers but that is just open to residents of NJ.
  • HedgeHog
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-11-07
    • 10128

    #2
    Betonline has fixed odds on a few select races. Today they have three from Santa Anita:

    Santa Anita
    R5 - 25th May
    04:34 PM 7 Jolie Olimpica +125
    2 Oleksandra +200
    8 Just Grazed Me +700
    1 Stealthediamonds +700
    5 Miss Hot Legs +1000
    4 Surrender Now +1600
    3 Ginger Nut +2000
    6 Into Mystic +2200
    Santa Anita
    R9 - 25th May
    06:38 PM 8 Raging Bull +350
    1 Without Parole +350
    11 River Boyne +500
    5 War of Will +500
    9 March to the Arch +800
    10 Neptune's Storm +1200
    3 Next Shares +1200
    2 True Valour +1200
    4 Voodoo Song +2000
    6 Blitzkrieg +2800
    7 Majestic Eagle +2800
    Santa Anita
    R11 - 25th May
    07:39 PM 1 Etoile +250
    2 Ollie's Candy +350
    11 Keeper Ofthe Stars +600
    3 Lady Prancelot +600
    7 Beautiful Lover +700
    5 Mucho Unusual +1000
    6 Simply Breathless +1600
    4 Giza Goddess +1800
    10 Bodhicitta +2000
    9 Siberian Iris +2000
    8 Tiny Tina +2000
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    • Colonist
      SBR High Roller
      • 05-24-20
      • 203

      #3
      Thank you. Looks like just stake races. I wish others offered full card fixed odds.

      Originally posted by HedgeHog
      Betonline has fixed odds on a few select races. Today they have three from Santa Anita:

      Santa Anita
      R5 - 25th May
      04:34 PM 7 Jolie Olimpica +125
      2 Oleksandra +200
      8 Just Grazed Me +700
      1 Stealthediamonds +700
      5 Miss Hot Legs +1000
      4 Surrender Now +1600
      3 Ginger Nut +2000
      6 Into Mystic +2200
      Santa Anita
      R9 - 25th May
      06:38 PM 8 Raging Bull +350
      1 Without Parole +350
      11 River Boyne +500
      5 War of Will +500
      9 March to the Arch +800
      10 Neptune's Storm +1200
      3 Next Shares +1200
      2 True Valour +1200
      4 Voodoo Song +2000
      6 Blitzkrieg +2800
      7 Majestic Eagle +2800
      Santa Anita
      R11 - 25th May
      07:39 PM 1 Etoile +250
      2 Ollie's Candy +350
      11 Keeper Ofthe Stars +600
      3 Lady Prancelot +600
      7 Beautiful Lover +700
      5 Mucho Unusual +1000
      6 Simply Breathless +1600
      4 Giza Goddess +1800
      10 Bodhicitta +2000
      9 Siberian Iris +2000
      8 Tiny Tina +2000
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      • Optional
        Administrator
        • 06-10-10
        • 60642

        #4
        5dimes offers it for big races too.

        But I think Bovada is the only big offhsore to have it for most races.
        .
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        • Louisvillekid1
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 10-17-07
          • 52143

          #5
          Im
          hoping fir this in New Jersey as well
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          • LT Profits
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 10-27-06
            • 90963

            #6
            Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
            Im
            hoping fir this in New Jersey as well
            Isn't Betfair in New Jersey?
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            • Louisvillekid1
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 10-17-07
              • 52143

              #7
              Betfair is tvg is nj bets

              which I have account issues with
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              • LT Profits
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 10-27-06
                • 90963

                #8
                Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                Betfair is tvg is nj bets

                which I have account issues with
                Betfair has exchange.
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                • LT Profits
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 10-27-06
                  • 90963

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                  Betfair is tvg is nj bets

                  which I have account issues with
                  Can't you directly join betfair.com ?
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                  • Louisvillekid1
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-17-07
                    • 52143

                    #10
                    Nope

                    it directs me to njbets/tvg
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                    • Louisvillekid1
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-17-07
                      • 52143

                      #11
                      Jersey has that shit on lock

                      it’s pretty crazy

                      i was a cris / bookmaker / bet online

                      member for years

                      I posted this in another thread

                      how a US state can block offshore is something special
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                      • LT Profits
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 10-27-06
                        • 90963

                        #12
                        But they advertise on TVG that New Jersey bettors can lock in their odds on Betfair?
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                        • Louisvillekid1
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-17-07
                          • 52143

                          #13
                          That’s bullshit

                          the commercial just runs here

                          unless they are one of the same
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                          • LT Profits
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 10-27-06
                            • 90963

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                            That’s bullshit

                            the commercial just runs here

                            unless they are one of the same
                            I am in PA and that NJ Betfair commercial is on a lot.
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                            • Shifty
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 08-10-08
                              • 558

                              #15
                              If you are in NJ you can have TVG and Betfair accounts, same company. You can move funds between the 2 accounts as needed. Betfair NJ only has a few US tracks, Monmouth, Meadowlands, Tampa Bay, Mountaineer, maybe 1-2 more. Commission is 12%. That's what happens when states are involved. https://us.betfair.com/exchange/
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                              • LT Profits
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 10-27-06
                                • 90963

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                Nope

                                it directs me to njbets/tvg
                                Maybe putting the "us." in front as in Shifty's post won't redirect?
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                                • littlekona
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-19-15
                                  • 5241

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Colonist
                                  Good morning all,

                                  First post.

                                  Am seeking a way to find out which websites offer fixed odds horse racing. The only US facing site that I see that offers this is Bovada. Are there any others?

                                  I'd also be interested in a way onto overseas exchange wagering for horse racing as well but it seems like they don't accept US customers. Is anyone familiar with working with agents to get action onto these sites? Am aware of Betfair/Betmakers but that is just open to residents of NJ.
                                  Agent Odsy88 has been very reliable and fast pay for me prior to the covid-19 slowdown the CS is alos very good. They have betfair minus the lay options and so far have not bumped commissions like AC88 has been doing to everyone. The USA targeted books most cases the fixed odds are bad but on occasion you can get value like Jolie Olimpica @ +125 was a great price. BOL hands down is the best racebook with best limits and rebates. If you are serious horse player you need both exchange and pari mutual style and hopeully the lay option comes back as that was my highest roi.
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                                  • Colonist
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 05-24-20
                                    • 203

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by littlekona
                                    Agent Odsy88 has been very reliable and fast pay for me prior to the covid-19 slowdown the CS is alos very good. They have betfair minus the lay options and so far have not bumped commissions like AC88 has been doing to everyone. The USA targeted books most cases the fixed odds are bad but on occasion you can get value like Jolie Olimpica @ +125 was a great price. BOL hands down is the best racebook with best limits and rebates. If you are serious horse player you need both exchange and pari mutual style and hopeully the lay option comes back as that was my highest roi.
                                    Yup, I think I saw Jolie Olimpica at +135 early in the day at Bovada. There can be really good fixed odds value if you are sharp enough to identify it. Beautiful Lover lost but was +750 in fixed and went off at 3-1 in the pari mutuel pool.

                                    Thank you for the info. Was not familiar with Odsy88 and I looked at their site. I don't see horse racing on there but from your post, I will examine deeper. I haven't hedged much on the pari mutuel side but it something that I should do as well as I am getting more serious with this. Are there other competitors to Odsy88 that I can get onto Betfair with? Much appreciated. Also, BOL just has pari mutuel odds, right?
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                                    • littlekona
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 11-19-15
                                      • 5241

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Colonist
                                      Yup, I think I saw Jolie Olimpica at +135 early in the day at Bovada. There can be really good fixed odds value if you are sharp enough to identify it. Beautiful Lover lost but was +750 in fixed and went off at 3-1 in the pari mutuel pool.

                                      Thank you for the info. Was not familiar with Odsy88 and I looked at their site. I don't see horse racing on there but from your post, I will examine deeper. I haven't hedged much on the pari mutuel side but it something that I should do as well as I am getting more serious with this. Are there other competitors to Odsy88 that I can get onto Betfair with? Much appreciated. Also, BOL just has pari mutuel odds, right?
                                      Odsy88 offering of Orbitx is betfair exchange but without lay options. I use it for tracks like Keenland, Belmont. Monmouth, Tampa, Parx Fingers Lakes, Penn national Charles Town all of UK/IRE and more BUT of course this is when times are normal and tracks run. It's great as many times you get a better price then the pari mutual pools esp at smaller tracks and UK/IRE. BOL is also a must have IMO. They have great limits and great selection of race tracks and best of all the money does not go into the USA tote. Looseline/Jazz is another I like for pari mutual odds though limits are much lower
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                                      • Colonist
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 05-24-20
                                        • 203

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by littlekona
                                        Odsy88 offering of Orbitx is betfair exchange but without lay options. I use it for tracks like Keenland, Belmont. Monmouth, Tampa, Parx Fingers Lakes, Penn national Charles Town all of UK/IRE and more BUT of course this is when times are normal and tracks run. It's great as many times you get a better price then the pari mutual pools esp at smaller tracks and UK/IRE. BOL is also a must have IMO. They have great limits and great selection of race tracks and best of all the money does not go into the USA tote. Looseline/Jazz is another I like for pari mutual odds though limits are much lower
                                        Great. Am looking to get geared up for the return of the bigger tracks. Not having the lay option sounds like a problem, though. Do you know if they will re-instate that side?

                                        The pari mutuel odds are difficult to beat but can be used as a hedge. I will check them out.
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                                        • littlekona
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 11-19-15
                                          • 5241

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Colonist
                                          Great. Am looking to get geared up for the return of the bigger tracks. Not having the lay option sounds like a problem, though. Do you know if they will re-instate that side?

                                          The pari mutuel odds are difficult to beat but can be used as a hedge. I will check them out.

                                          I know... not having LAY bets sucks esp for us who like to find bad odds on chalks to LAY. I have heard rumbling of possibly a new exchange being added that does offer so fingers crossed. If you are a bigger player I would also ask for a manger at odsys88 I like Bianca and get on her Skype so you can contact them faster even though regular chat is pretty good too if you have any requests, questions or concerns
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                                          • Colonist
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 05-24-20
                                            • 203

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by littlekona
                                            I know... not having LAY bets sucks esp for us who like to find bad odds on chalks to LAY. I have heard rumbling of possibly a new exchange being added that does offer so fingers crossed. If you are a bigger player I would also ask for a manger at odsys88 I like Bianca and get on her Skype so you can contact them faster even though regular chat is pretty good too if you have any requests, questions or concerns
                                            Yup, need the LAY side as well in those cases so thats unfortunate.
                                            If they don't limit me, I'd like to play at big numbers but will start small, like you suggested. I will ask for Bianca on Skype if this works out. Much appreciated.
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                                            • Louisvillekid1
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 10-17-07
                                              • 52143

                                              #23
                                              Important thread here
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                                              • BOWLSZN
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 12-22-17
                                                • 196

                                                #24
                                                i have accs with both its not BS lol
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                                                • BOWLSZN
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 12-22-17
                                                  • 196

                                                  #25
                                                  you Tranfer your Funds from 4njbets to the Betfair Exchange its pretty simple
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                                                  • Louisvillekid1
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 10-17-07
                                                    • 52143

                                                    #26
                                                    Exactly same company

                                                    need another option
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                                                    • LT Profits
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 10-27-06
                                                      • 90963

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                      Exactly same company

                                                      need another option
                                                      I really don't understand how others on this thread have separate accounts at 4njbets and us.betfair (which as I understand is how it should be) and you can't do it? Yes that have common ownership but they are separate skins and Betfair has the exchange.
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                                                      • LT Profits
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 10-27-06
                                                        • 90963

                                                        #28
                                                        When I go to betfair.com in PA I see this:



                                                        Should be one login for access to both 4NJBets and Betfair Exchange
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                                                        • Chiefs83
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 08-01-16
                                                          • 2735

                                                          #29
                                                          When will they offer sports betting on the site
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                                                          • nikkiireed
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 06-01-20
                                                            • 1

                                                            #30
                                                            good play love you
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