5dimes Ultra Prematch lines

[HomeRun35]

Am I missing something here? Why are 5Dimes Ultra lines different from the normal sportsbook layout? Why wouldn't anyone just bet the cheaper price each time?

[DontTailMe]

Am I missing something here? Why are 5Dimes Ultra lines different from the normal sportsbook layout? Why wouldn't anyone just bet the cheaper price each time?

It's a different odds provider, and yes, you should take the better price. This isn't the only site where this exists. For example, BetDSI has 4 different books.

[HomeRun35]

It's a different odds provider, and yes, you should take the better price. This isn't the only site where this exists. For example, BetDSI has 4 different books.

Is it a different odds provider that takes on the risk besides 5dimes? I am worried about being limited at 5dimes and am very careful when choosing weak lines of theirs to hit. But if Ultra was a different book that took just the risk and just paid a commission to 5dimes or something similar I would not have to worry about hitting their weak lines. Do I have that right?

[infotimbo]

Do I have that right?

no, account limitations (can) apply to all books. I have a $25 limit on Ultra for example, although I never used it.

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Is it a different odds provider that takes on the risk besides 5dimes? I am worried about being limited at 5dimes and am very careful when choosing weak lines of theirs to hit. But if Ultra was a different book that took just the risk and just paid a commission to 5dimes or something similar I would not have to worry about hitting their weak lines. Do I have that right?

The alternative book/s player management appears to be separate from Sportsbook Main. But I would still be careful taking shots at bad lines.

[HomeRun35]

no, account limitations (can) apply to all books. I have a $25 limit on Ultra for example, although I never used it.

Do you think that it would be considerably harder for the reverse to happen since 5D is the overall book? Say my action looks fine on 5D but I'm crushing Ultra. So they limit 5D as well?

The alternative book/s player management appears to be separate from Sportsbook Main. But I would still be careful taking shots at bad lines.

Thanks. When I say bad lines, I do not mean an arb or super off market prices. Just something like every major book is at -135 and I take -130 at Ultra but consistently that's the theme to my bets(something I don't do at 5D)

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Do you think that it would be considerably harder for the reverse to happen since 5D is the overall book? Say my action looks fine on 5D but I'm crushing Ultra. So they limit 5D as well?



Thanks. When I say bad lines, I do not mean an arb or super off market prices. Just something like every major book is at -135 and I take -130 at Ultra but consistently that's the theme to my bets(something I don't do at 5D)

I think your ultra limits are probably separate, but of course the limit info will be available to the management at 5D when assessing your main sportsbook limits.

I don't think you need to be too concerned about 5 cents, or picking off best odds, if it's not from regular steam chasing.

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Do you think that it would be considerably harder for the reverse to happen since 5D is the overall book? Say my action looks fine on 5D but I'm crushing Ultra. So they limit 5D as well?

my normal 5d account was limited years ago, so when they added Ultra (Plus, Prime...), it also started with a limit immediately.

So no idea if it works the same the other way around (maybe not), but it's not completely separated from each other at least.

Edit: Thinking about it: I got an additional limitation (down from $50 to $10) on Plus last year and it did not influence the other books. So you may be right.

[DontTailMe]

Do you think that it would be considerably harder for the reverse to happen since 5D is the overall book? Say my action looks fine on 5D but I'm crushing Ultra. So they limit 5D as well?

No one here can possibly answer this question with any certainty. Just because it did or did not happen with one player, that doesn't mean i will/won't with another. I think you have to assume anything is possible. But I'm not sure why you're concerned. There's nothing you can do about being limited. Just try to win and what happens happens.

[HomeRun35]

But I'm not sure why you're concerned. There's nothing you can do about being limited. Just try to win and what happens happens.

I'm concerned because it's a book that is known to limit sharp bettors. I'm going to win long term regardless. If I hammer every best in market line that's also going to beat a close I'm going to get limited lightning quick from what I've heard. And I'm not referring to arbing(which I don't do) or even taking prices ahead of Pin middles. If I pick and choose my spots and always pass on lines that are ahead of the true Pin line, there's a chance I can last a long time before being limited. Of course it's impossible to know for sure. But Option A of just to bet to win the maximum is a guaranteed quick limit and Option B has a chance of a better long term outcome

[DontTailMe]

I'm concerned because it's a book that is known to limit sharp bettors. I'm going to win long term regardless. If I hammer every best in market line that's also going to beat a close I'm going to get limited lightning quick from what I've heard. And I'm not referring to arbing(which I don't do) or even taking prices ahead of Pin middles. If I pick and choose my spots and always pass on lines that are ahead of the true Pin line, there's a chance I can last a long time before being limited. Of course it's impossible to know for sure. But Option A of just to bet to win the maximum is a guaranteed quick limit and Option B has a chance of a better long term outcome

Yeah, I just don't think there's a way to beat this. Option A you'll win more faster, bus also be limited more quickly. Option B will (possibly) limit you less quickly, but you'll also win money less quickly. Does either one really net you more profit in the end?

[HomeRun35]

Yeah, I just don't think there's a way to beat this. Option A you'll win more faster, bus also be limited more quickly. Option B will (possibly) limit you less quickly, but you'll also win money less quickly. Does either one really net you more profit in the end?

The two options aren't zero sum. If you are always taking best market near or ahead of Pin middle and beating closes it will be obvious to the book right away. The odds of that happening by chance over even 7 days in a major market are astronomical. I'd much rather gamble on the chance of avoiding being limited on a comparatively many multiple time frame and a lower expected ROI than squeeze whatever I can in a miniscule period. But hey, we're all betting on different sides of the dice here, right?

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I'm concerned because it's a book that is known to limit sharp bettors. I'm going to win long term regardless. If I hammer every best in market line that's also going to beat a close I'm going to get limited lightning quick from what I've heard. And I'm not referring to arbing(which I don't do) or even taking prices ahead of Pin middles. If I pick and choose my spots and always pass on lines that are ahead of the true Pin line, there's a chance I can last a long time before being limited. Of course it's impossible to know for sure. But Option A of just to bet to win the maximum is a guaranteed quick limit and Option B has a chance of a better long term outcome

I don't think 5D is as tough on winners as people think.

5D have traditionally been fast to boot steam chasers and anyone hitting bad lines but there are too many specific sport sharps who I believe profit every year for many years for me to believe they boot sharps/winners blindly.


If someone is really sharp and been profiting ongoing for a while, they will already know how the world works and not be shocked when any book boots them.

Anyone who comes on here complaining that "5D limited (or closed) my account and all I was doing was winning" is very obviously not a genuine sharp in my opinion, and I think the image that winners are not welcome only exists due to these people.

[HomeRun35]

I don't think 5D is as tough on winners as people think.

5D have traditionally been fast to boot steam chasers and anyone hitting bad lines but there are too many specific sport sharps who I believe profit every year for many years for me to believe they boot sharps/winners blindly.


If someone is really sharp and been profiting ongoing for a while, they will already know how the world works and not be shocked when any book boots them.

Anyone who comes on here complaining that "5D limited (or closed) my account and all I was doing was winning" is very obviously not a genuine sharp in my opinion, and I think the image that winners are not welcome only exists due to these people.

Just speaking from experience of someone I know that knows some sharp bettors and he said none of them were able to keep accounts at normal limits. That was in the Tony era though. I do hope you're right as I don't arb, steam chase, or bet bad lines.

[lonegambler23]

they used to have a better sportsbook prime that copied pinnacle lines so pissed they got rid of it

[TheGuesser]

It's a different odds provider, and yes, you should take the better price. This isn't the only site where this exists. For example, BetDSI has 4 different books.

Lately they've only had 2, at least for me.

[DontTailMe]

Lately they've only had 2, at least for me.

They have **up to** 4 different books. The actual number fluctuates from day to day and week to week for some unknown reason. Right now, I only have 1. I saw 4 books within the last month or so, so they all do still exist.