It was a post pay bank transfer. I don't know if Poste Italiane permit to revoke the transfer. And it is 20 days now, do you think I can ask to revoke after so many days? I tried mailing them asking for help... :-(
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I will try. Keep you postedComment -
Good news: after some days BetinAsia transfered money to my account :-)Comment -
Sportmarket is still spotless, not a single complaint of any sort I've seen online. Betinasia on the other hand... oh boy.Comment -
I think betting only with the Betinasia Black platform (mollybet) is much safer.Comment -
Is Asian Connect recommended? Any other brokers?Comment -
And how they proved themselves as a scammers?Comment -
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That's a lot of negativity, in the arb forum I saw more problems with the D/W. Seems they are lacking professionalism last few month. It seems they have been lacking professionalism in the last few months.Comment -
Trustpilot is not a good indicator. Almost all brokers and bookmakers have a very low rating on Trustpilot. For example, Betfair rating is just 1.4 on Trustpilot. So If I trusted Trustpilot rating, I would think Betfair is a scam according to Trustpilot.Comment -
Multiple complaint cases and threads on here where accounts have obviously been drained and they refuse ANY assistance and treat the customer like they are criminal and some sort of idiot.
They were given the opportunity to explain themselves multiple times but reacted to all attempts at ADR mediation just like we would expect scamming thieves to.
Do not even talk about Betinasia on SBR unless it's to warn people away.
Same for PremiumTradings. Banned from discussion as another scam outfit. The entire agent system is broken and none of them can be fully trusted anymore IMHO.Last edited by Optional; 09-04-23, 07:33 PM..Comment -
I will consider your opinion as valid, but based on my reviews and research from people using both mentioned agents, as well as a few others, PremiumTradings and Betinasa are not scammers. The bigger concern lies with the group of brokers and bookmakers/tools under the umbrella of Bet-Ibc.However, you are absolutely correct about the overall reliability of these agents. One should exercise caution and consider them only as a last resortComment -
I would argue that you have no clue what you talk about Maikiti, you joined basically yesterday and some users here have 5+ years experience in certain brokers' wrongdoings. Thus, your opinion might be valid, but doesn't carry too much weight.Comment -
Asian Connect no longer accepting/ allowing U.S. Residents
Hello,
Are there any brokers accepting U.S. clients or any reputable agents that offer Pinnacle and Orbit accounts?Comment -
Bolsadeaposta - New Broker from Betfair Scammers
Hello. I've been working with them for three months. During this time I made 6 deposits, everything was fine. Yesterday after the next deposit, the funds were not credited to the account.Deposits are accepted only through Tether.Support service is not responding (they never answered). The only connection info@bolsadeaposta.com.
Please help me with anything, the deposit amount is very large, I’m in despair
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Orbitx-Account
Hello,The same crap happened to me recently at BET-IBC. Some cricket bets were placed in my absence. Of course they say the blame lies with me......phishing sites or password sharing. What are the possibilities? I would be happy to receive some information.
I have been "hacked" in Orbit too, beginning of December. 5600 Euro. I am one of the guys he is speaking about in the German youtube video. I am from Austria. Registe
red via brokerstorm. Just text me, there seem to be a lot of cases. OrbitX is not helping at all to get the money back. I also never entered a password at a phising website. I have been customer for about 10 years there, never had this problem. So let's get together and do something about it together.
Please all who were scammed contact me via PM. I cannot because I don't have 40 postinngs
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Warning - OrbitX - Betinasia - Bet-IBC SCAM ALERT
SBR users continue to be scammed by these rouge Betfair partners.
Today we see yet another report of fake losing cricket bets added to an OrbitX account to drain the balance and as always, the broker acting like this is unknown to them and is the customers fault.
EVERYONE IN THE INDUSTRY KNOWS ABOUT THIS. Do not let them lie to you or make you think that they really think you are at fault.
If you get ripped off, complain to Betfair about their partner OrbitX or the scammy broker who is lying to you that they think it's your fault.
I want to share something. The owner of Betinasia reached out to me a month or two ago acting ignorant and wanting to know why I would think that Betinasia and OrbitX have been scamming many people.
I am going to post my response to him as he never responded even after reaching out to me for a conversation.
DO NOT BE TRICKED. THE BROKER INDUSTRY AND ORBITX ARE A BROKEN SYSTEM. DON"T TELL ANYONE TO USE THEM ANYMORE. TOO MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VICTIMIZED NOW.
Reply to Betinasia owner asking why SBR would think they are a scam; (no response ever came back)
The opinion comes after many attempts to reach out to you to help both yourselves and users resolve problems with BetInAsia accounts being drained, and getting stonewalled or ignored or simply given nonsense responses from your staff.
There have been way too many complaints about balances going missing from your account holders who are then given no respect or assistance to investigate or properly resolve the issue. It became very obvious over time that BIA are involved in draining customer accounts or covering up the issue.
To seriously try to tell me Betinasia has never had a problem in 10 years tells me you are probably no less of a waste of time to talk to as your customers have found your staff over many years. Do you really believe that?? There is little point to a conversation if you do. Please educate yourself about your own company before wasting my time trying to "discuss" anything.
If you want to know any specifics, you are welcome to use the forum search function. Here are a few threads to get you started;
And these are just some public posts. There have been a lot more privately submitted complaints about BIA which mostly sound like the exact same MO. Even when many people came to you saying I have never bet cricket and large cricket bets have appeared in my account and all lost draining it you tried to treat them like THEY are the lying scammers. Over and again, the same response. We know that your company knows, as you use a standard response to the victims we see over and again.
Did you really not realize your company is this terrible?
If you want to discuss anything with me you'll need to show some openness and honesty. I have wasted as much time as I ever plan to trying to help resolve problem reports for BIA with arrogant company reps who just stick their head in the sand and deny everything as customers continue to be shafted.
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Warning - OrbitX - Betinasia - Bet-IBC SCAM ALERT
OrbitX victims please see this thread -> Warning - OrbitX - Betinasia - Bet-IBC SCAM ALERT.Comment -
Those who were affected by this should sue the license holder of OrbitExchange:
By suing the license holder 8048/JAZ then Orbit would be forced to compensate the users or risk losing its license which effectively would shut down its business, and open it for criminal activity lawsuits and more, so it's in their best interest to avoid it.
It's best if all the users mentioned in these examples above, could come together, using a local lawyer in Curacao. I know one who helped me with a case once, but feel free to look around, I'm sure any local Curacao lawyer would love taking as many clients as possible, turn it to a class action, as Optional you suggested in one of these threads, and then get justice once and for all for all the poor users who lost money from these unscrupulous practices.
Optional, can you contact the users and ask them to come together? I seriously mean it, I love it when justice is served.
If this happens it could also shake the Curacao licensing system, there are up to 5-7 years I think to file, so the users involved should get together and use the court system in Curacao.
Without a legal action nothing would change, the only way to "communicate" with these scammers is via a legal action, and I'm talking from experience.Comment -
That is wrong action to take I think, Orbit has no clue who the customers are - they never get in touch with them. Everything is handled by Brokers and for that reason action should be taken against Brokers in question (which are also on Curacao from what I recall).
BIA/Scam-IBC should be held accountable.Comment -
So much for your "licensed sportsbooks is the way to go" speech, lolThose who were affected by this should sue the license holder of OrbitExchange:
By suing the license holder 8048/JAZ then Orbit would be forced to compensate the users or risk losing its license which effectively would shut down its business, and open it for criminal activity lawsuits and more, so it's in their best interest to avoid it.
It's best if all the users mentioned in these examples above, could come together, using a local lawyer in Curacao. I know one who helped me with a case once, but feel free to look around, I'm sure any local Curacao lawyer would love taking as many clients as possible, turn it to a class action, as Optional you suggested in one of these threads, and then get justice once and for all for all the poor users who lost money from these unscrupulous practices.
Optional, can you contact the users and ask them to come together? I seriously mean it, I love it when justice is served.
If this happens it could also shake the Curacao licensing system, there are up to 5-7 years I think to file, so the users involved should get together and use the court system in Curacao.
Without a legal action nothing would change, the only way to "communicate" with these scammers is via a legal action, and I'm talking from experience.Comment -
would be interesting to know indeed, and also what exactly "recently" means. Personally I hadn't seen complaints anymore since 2FA was introduced
edit: just saw on another forum that this happened at the end of October, so very recently, and also found a French tweet reporting the same from 2 weeks ago.Last edited by infotimbo; 11-10-23, 09:35 AM.Comment -
BetInAsia has a curacao license as well, so they can be sued likewise.
It's best to let a proper Curacao lawyer to handle this, they are extremely knowledgable about the entire industry and they can really change the outcome for these poor players.
Some might even work on a no-win-no-fee basis, because it's a very good case for them to handle in court, I'd seriously suggest for these individuals to somehow come together, or get someone to handle it for everyone, so they can get their stolen money back. It's worth it, and it's the only way to get the money back.
The only other option is to take it somehow against BetFair, but I am not sure how this can be done and if it can be done, as BetFair throws away their responsibility, so once again using Curacao is probably the best way forward. From my experience it does change things, and does force the companies to cooperate or else they won't lose their business but much more. A legal action here is a must.Comment -
If there is a good lawyer who can support us, i would be there immediately. This sh** has to stop.Comment -
Two-Factor Authentication has been available on Orbitxch for at least several months, regardless of the broker.
I don't even remember if I had any other option than choosing this type of login.
That's why I'm very surprised that you don't have this option.
I wonder if any cases of fraud on Orbitxch accounts have occurred on accounts with Two-Factor Authentication login. If so, it's very likely someone from Orbitxch is involved too.Comment
