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  • Alfie White
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 09-02-17
    • 680

    Sportmarket, hands down. Every other broker has demonstrated lack of trust and notable bad practices against customers.
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    • arzuru
      SBR Rookie
      • 01-24-25
      • 13

      Hi. This sounds like you triggered an anti-fraud measure by OrtbitX, probably because your
      trading and betting activity is too high when compared to the average user, or probably
      your activity was deemed as suspicious due to your volumes, how long have you being using
      OrbirtX? This is the only reason I can come up with, OrbitX has a really long history or
      freezing funds without a clear reasoning behind, it is uncertain what the result tends to be
      the majority of times this happens, have never seen anyone claiming they got paid, this can
      take months to he solved, or to be declared unsolved, sadly there is nothing to do.

      I'm also currently facing issues with 3 bets that got voided because OrbitX claims I placed
      the bets on an already determined result (something that is untrue, and impossible also) but
      hey they seem to be able to do whatever they want with us, the users. All I can recommend is
      to contact support everyday and wait for the best, it can be some weeks, probably even months.
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      • arzuru
        SBR Rookie
        • 01-24-25
        • 13

        Originally posted by Alfie White
        Sportmarket, hands down. Every other broker has demonstrated lack of trust and notable bad practices against customers.
        Are they really solid? I'm looking somewhere to migrate to, being using AsianConnect for over
        a year but recently ran into problems, do you use OrbitX through Sportmarket? How has it being
        so far? How long do withdrawals tend to take from OrbitX using that broker?
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        • arzuru
          SBR Rookie
          • 01-24-25
          • 13

          Originally posted by Josemax
          After reading a lot on this forum, I would like to know which of the available brokers are the most reliable. I’ve seen that people are skeptical about BetInAsia, while AsianConnect seems more trustworthy. What other alternatives are there to BetInAsia and AsianConnect?
          Bet-IBC, Sportmarket, Bet-Football. There are many others but not worth mentioning as they have
          no reputation at all, and sometimes you get played by the known guys, now imagine what can you
          go through if you give these unknown operators a chance. Check the 3 I mentioned, don't know many.
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          • infotimbo
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 10-24-18
            • 833

            Originally posted by arzuru
            Are they really solid? I'm looking somewhere to migrate to, being using AsianConnect for over
            a year but recently ran into problems, do you use OrbitX through Sportmarket? How has it being
            so far? How long do withdrawals tend to take from OrbitX using that broker?
            Sportmarket doesn't offer Orbit accounts
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            • Josemax
              SBR Rookie
              • 01-18-25
              • 9

              Thank you for the information.
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              • arzuru
                SBR Rookie
                • 01-24-25
                • 13

                The thing is, the subsequent winnings you had after the balance wrongly credited to you, are in
                fact, tied to the wrongly accrued balance to your account, normally this means in all operators
                without exception the subsequent winnings will also be voided as well as pending bets. I truly
                believe your genuine mistake, this could basically happen to anyone, I normally do not double
                check my P/L and bet history if my balance is in accordance with the bets I have placed, so
                this can definitely happen! Really sad, as long as your rightfully own money is paid back to
                you, I don't see much of a problem, still a kick in the private parts tho.

                Regarding the licensing issue, I wouldn't use that operator anymore as the danger of it becoming
                a hit and run is really high, having a bad license is something, faking a bad license is insane.
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                • arzuru
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 01-24-25
                  • 13

                  Originally posted by infotimbo
                  Sportmarket doesn't offer Orbit accounts
                  I checked their site and they announce Betfair, what is Betfair's whitelabel there?
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                  • Josemax
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 01-18-25
                    • 9

                    Here is a screenshot... let everyone see it... account suspended since January 5, 2025...https://ibb.co/6ZZk1qt
                    Last edited by Josemax; 01-24-25, 05:46 PM.
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                    • Josemax
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 01-18-25
                      • 9

                      My Orbit Exchange account still allows me to log in, but I cannot place bets or withdraw funds, although I can still access the account. I would appreciate the help of more experienced users of the platform to raise awareness of the injustice Orbit Exchange is committing with my account.https://ibb.co/pJDPW2n
                      Last edited by Josemax; 01-24-25, 05:52 PM.
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                      • Josemax
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 01-18-25
                        • 9

                        My Orbit Exchange account still allows me to log in, but I cannot place bets or withdraw funds, although I can still access the account. The account was suspended after I won €15,000, but it can be verified that I had previously lost €10,000. I would appreciate the help of more experienced users of the platform to raise awareness of the injustice Orbit Exchange is committing with my account.
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                        • infotimbo
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 10-24-18
                          • 833

                          Account reviews by Betfair are not unusual and can take a while. It can happen on all platforms, and there's not much you can do about it.

                          On Sportmarket, you can access Betfair via their Sportmarket Pro multi-bookmaker platform (comparable to mollybet/asianodds). They also offer "FairExchange" accounts, which apparently is an Orbit-like whitelabel exchange, but I don't have experience with it.
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                          • craftbrewer
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 08-07-18
                            • 181

                            Originally posted by infotimbo
                            Account reviews by Betfair are not unusual and can take a while. It can happen on all platforms, and there's not much you can do about it.

                            On Sportmarket, you can access Betfair via their Sportmarket Pro multi-bookmaker platform (comparable to mollybet/asianodds). They also offer "FairExchange" accounts, which apparently is an Orbit-like whitelabel exchange, but I don't have experience with it.
                            As far as I know, FairExchange has very low risk exposure limits so they can't be considered a good alternative to Orbit.
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                            • arzuru
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 01-24-25
                              • 13

                              Originally posted by Josemax
                              My Orbit Exchange account still allows me to log in, but I cannot place bets or withdraw funds, although I can still access the account. The account was suspended after I won €15,000, but it can be verified that I had previously lost €10,000. I would appreciate the help of more experienced users of the platform to raise awareness of the injustice Orbit Exchange is committing with my account.
                              I have been using OrbitX for more than a year, I'm not a trader, I'm an outright bettor, place
                              bet, wait for result, over 7500 matches wagered last year, why do I mention this? Because my
                              experience as a bettor could be different to that of a trader. First, and big mistake, you
                              held a huge balance in that account, this is a big mistake because there is one problem with
                              OrbitX, there is no way to contact them whatsoever, you can only get information through your
                              agent, which naturally complicates things (max balance I ever held there is 3000), second you
                              got targeted probably because of your volumes, this is not a wrongdoing on your side, you just
                              bet and trade as you please and you shall be free to do so, probably the market you had these
                              winnings was a low exposure market, it was south american football, right? Maybe this attracted
                              unwanted attention, they probably think you are trading on a fixed event, it could be anything
                              but that specific winnings in the market definitely caused the account to be suspended and the
                              balance to be frozen.

                              I'm definitely on your side because I have seen OrbitX constantly treating users poorly and this
                              case is not something new. I think we all have seen all sort of cases, frozen balances, ghost
                              bets, suspended accounts and incorrectly settled markets, for example, OrtbitX recently stole
                              from me by voiding bets that should have not been voided, ever single time I complain about it
                              they change the reasoning behind voiding my bets! Trust me, you aren't alone on this one, the
                              only way to have a good experience in OrbitX is by betting peanuts.

                              Have in mind OrbitX is not operating like an exchange as they claim to be, they are operating
                              like a traditional bookmaker and this is why they "have" a higher matched amount on each market,
                              twice or triple Betfair's own volumes! The agents take positions against users and they are
                              okay when that works out in their favor but they can manipulate settlements of markets when it
                              doesn't, see? No different to bookmakers, you are participating in fictional markets, you aren't
                              against other genuine users, you are against a bookmaker that has total and absolute control of
                              the environment you are taking part in. I was okay with this and I always knew it and decided to
                              keep going for more than a year but now I see how incredibly dangerous this is as their overreach
                              on a wrongly settled bet made me realize it's not beneficial in the long run to bet on a bookmaker
                              that pretends to be an exchange. By the moment, all you can do is contact support every single day
                              and be loud, I truly hope you get paid your own money and move on, this sort of things can even
                              take months if solved (which is no guarantee), try to make a post about your case in Arbusers maybe
                              it helps your case.
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                              • arzuru
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 01-24-25
                                • 13

                                Originally posted by craftbrewer
                                As far as I know, FairExchange has very low risk exposure limits so they can't be considered a good alternative to Orbit.
                                That's not a bad thing, if their liquidity is 1:1 as Betfair's liquidity, then that could
                                mean the agents giving you access to FairExchange are not taking positions against the
                                users, which could mean the odds of running into problems are lower than the odds of being
                                into troubles in OrbitX, will definitely look further into these alternatives. I know about
                                another Betfair whitelabel that is 1:1 Betfair's liquidity, Oddjusta I think it was (someone
                                mentioned it here previously if I'm not wrong), I think a whitelabel that has the exact same
                                liquidity as Betfair is better than a whitelabel that behaves like a bookmaker, even if that
                                means liquidity will be lower.
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                                • Josemax
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 01-18-25
                                  • 9

                                  Thank you for your words... we keep fighting... and it’s clear that Orbit Exchange injects money into the market, just like a traditional bookmaker. Above all, it’s important to spread the word and warn traders who handle large amounts that Orbit Exchange is not safe.
                                  Last edited by Josemax; 01-25-25, 02:25 PM.
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                                  • arzuru
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 01-24-25
                                    • 13

                                    Hope you get your money, I'm also going through a dispute with OrbitX due to some bets that
                                    were wrongly settled and in my own case I see how sketchy they are, they changed the reasons
                                    for the settlement 3 times already, one reason being more ridiculous than the previous one
                                    and this behavior is repetitive in many cases reported by users, check Arbusers on the betting
                                    agents section. And true, the most we can do now is warn others. Really tragic.
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                                    • SheSMySin
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 12-11-23
                                      • 24

                                      So far I have not had any issues with Sportmarket and BetInAsia, pretty similar broker services.
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                                      • arzuru
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 01-24-25
                                        • 13

                                        Originally posted by SheSMySin
                                        So far I have not had any issues with Sportmarket and BetInAsia, pretty similar broker services.
                                        I have heard mostly good things about Sportmarket so far and plan to give them a try anytime
                                        soon, but about BetInAsia I have heard nothing but horror stories, specifically about Ortbix
                                        through BIA. Will definitely look into Sportmarket
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                                        • SheSMySin
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 12-11-23
                                          • 24

                                          I have stayed away from Ortbix. Just because like you said have heard of issues but maybe I should try myself a bit too.
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                                          • arzuru
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 01-24-25
                                            • 13

                                            Originally posted by SheSMySin
                                            I have stayed away from Ortbix. Just because like you said have heard of issues but maybe I should try myself a bit too.
                                            Check arbusers, the betting agent section is full of complaints and I also ran in trouble past month
                                            and simply decided to quit Orbit too, not willing to take any more risk there.
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                                            • SheSMySin
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 12-11-23
                                              • 24

                                              In regards to BetInAsia: I must add I have not used the Orbit Exchange there but the Black betting platform. I have had zero issues with them, withdrawn large 5 figs multiple times. Been there few years. Fast payouts, they do ask for proof of address and ID again for large withdraws which is fine. I have heard of issues with them but my experience is only positive and thus would recommend them. Especially given there seems to really be no bookmaker who has no negative reviews or experiences. Like for example Bet365 which is of course a s* limiting bookmaker, is still really fair with their payments, bet settlement and verification but only have 1.3 Trustpilot score. And they would certainly be way better for a recreational punter than some Curacao based scam casino that has no reviews just because they opened a new brand name for that very reason.
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                                              • Moneygreen
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 07-31-19
                                                • 147

                                                I've been using Asianconnect for a while now. Withdraw many times and never had any issues. I also tried opening piwi247 to be able to bet on their piwixchange and it is good so far. They processed my deposit fast and withdrawal in 24 hours which is acceptable for me. I hope your issue gets resolve asap. Dont forget to update us.
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                                                • Moneygreen
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 07-31-19
                                                  • 147

                                                  I've been using Asianconnect for a while now. Withdraw many times and never had any issues. I also tried opening piwi247 to be able to bet on their piwixchange and it is good so far. They processed my deposit fast and withdrawal in 24 hours which is acceptable for me. I hope your issue gets resolve asap. Dont forget to update us.
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                                                  • Josemax
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 01-18-25
                                                    • 9

                                                    I’m still fighting and speaking periodically with AsianConnect agents. Always the same nice words: "We completely understand your frustration", "The upline of Orbit Exchange is still reviewing your account", blah, blah, blah... I’m preparing everything to publish it on Arbusers and try to put some pressure that way.
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                                                    • arzuru
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 01-24-25
                                                      • 13

                                                      Originally posted by Josemax
                                                      I’m still fighting and speaking periodically with AsianConnect agents. Always the same nice words: "We completely understand your frustration", "The upline of Orbit Exchange is still reviewing your account", blah, blah, blah... I’m preparing everything to publish it on Arbusers and try to put some pressure that way.
                                                      Same here, no update and to be honest I'm losing trust in AsianConnect as a whole and might
                                                      leave them anytime soon. These investigation lead nowhere and I have noticed AC simply gets
                                                      wrong information when communicating with the so called uplines. Hope you get your money, I
                                                      personally have given up with these thugs.
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                                                      • Josemax
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 01-18-25
                                                        • 9

                                                        Do you have your account suspended or closed? And how long have you been trying to resolve your issue?
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                                                        • Do@u1998
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 07-25-19
                                                          • 4

                                                          Pending Period - PS3838 / Pinnacle

                                                          Hello All . Do you have any idea how the pending period works, especially for ITF on Pinnacle or PS3838? Need some idea. Thank you.
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                                                          • arzuru
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 01-24-25
                                                            • 13

                                                            Originally posted by Josemax
                                                            Do you have your account suspended or closed? And how long have you been trying to resolve your issue?
                                                            In my case it was something more simple, they settled bets incorrectly (voided) and they already
                                                            changed the reason for the voided bets 3 times, one more ridiculous than the other. I have given
                                                            up and don't plan to keep pushing it, won't use that site ever again and will scatter my bets in
                                                            several different operators (including betfair itself) just to avoid these sketchy situations
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                                                            • arzuru
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 01-24-25
                                                              • 13

                                                              Originally posted by Do@u1998
                                                              Hello All . Do you have any idea how the pending period works, especially for ITF on Pinnacle or PS3838? Need some idea. Thank you.
                                                              Can you explain more about this pending period and what exactly do you mean? You mean waiting for
                                                              bet settlements, voided markets, or what exactly? Sorry, not sure what you mean
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                                                              • blakey008
                                                                SBR Rookie
                                                                • 07-05-24
                                                                • 19

                                                                Seems Asianconnect has so many issues now. I read in arbusers forum that player also complaining about the bet limit asianconnect put to this PS3838 account.. Good thing, my Orbit and Ps3838 accounts in bookielink has no bet limitations and never had a problem with my withdrawals.
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                                                                • Zeus1988
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 03-08-25
                                                                  • 12

                                                                  Originally posted by blakey008
                                                                  Seems Asianconnect has so many issues now. I read in arbusers forum that player also complaining about the bet limit asianconnect put to this PS3838 account.. Good thing, my Orbit and Ps3838 accounts in bookielink has no bet limitations and never had a problem with my withdrawals.
                                                                  This thread is very helpful! It gives idea to a bettor like me who to trust or not with our money! Lol
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                                                                  • Zeus1988
                                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                                    • 03-08-25
                                                                    • 12

                                                                    Is there any update to this? Cause I’m interested to sign-up with them
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                                                                    • Thefix13
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 05-14-21
                                                                      • 664

                                                                      Originally posted by arzuru
                                                                      The thing is, the subsequent winnings you had after the balance wrongly credited to you, are in
                                                                      fact, tied to the wrongly accrued balance to your account, normally this means in all operators
                                                                      without exception the subsequent winnings will also be voided as well as pending bets. I truly
                                                                      believe your genuine mistake, this could basically happen to anyone, I normally do not double
                                                                      check my P/L and bet history if my balance is in accordance with the bets I have placed, so
                                                                      this can definitely happen! Really sad, as long as your rightfully own money is paid back to
                                                                      you, I don't see much of a problem, still a kick in the private parts tho.

                                                                      Regarding the licensing issue, I wouldn't use that operator anymore as the danger of it becoming
                                                                      a hit and run is really high, having a bad license is something, faking a bad license is insane.
                                                                      Think most people that are betting 3k euros on a game are aware if it is a winner or not before they start firing off the acquired balance on other bets. You were betting with monopoly money, no one is going to pay you for "wins" you acquired with non-existent funds. As far as the license, I wouldn't be surprised if half the offshore books have bogus licenses and that license doesn't mean a whole lot to all the people complaining about slow pays or no pays from books like Jazz and Cashbet.
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                                                                      • jebe99
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 03-11-09
                                                                        • 340

                                                                        To those who have BetinAsia accounts......does Betinasia allow VPN use? I ask because some online books don't allow it and withhold payouts for using VPN.
                                                                        I use VPN because I'm retired and I travel the world extensively spending few weeks in different countries each time, and was wondering if bet brokers like BetinAsia have no issues paying out to their players using VPN.
                                                                        Thanks in advance.
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