WSEX Slow Payout Updates

**tropolis** · 11-16-12, 09:31 AM

was paid 1,200 a week ago, check bounced.

**5mike5** · 11-16-12, 09:38 AM

Originally posted by tropolis

was paid 1,200 a week ago, check bounced.

god damn they even make it worse

shocked and happy u got $0.01 from these fukks, and then the fukkin check bounces

2 slaps in the face....damn

srry pal, hopefully they will re-send it and it clears...GL

**707782** · 11-27-12, 04:22 AM

i dont think anybody has got paid in more than 6 months now. the last payment i got from them is april of this year, i beleive, that's when MARIA is still in charge of the office, and now I don't even know who the penetrate is in charge, and they don't even reply emails anymore, before, they would always reply back, i have prety much written off this money, i will be super happy if I see another dollar for what i was owe.

**pokermonster29** · 12-06-12, 01:34 PM

Anybody get anything lately.
I'm owed almost 70k and compared to what I'm owed am freaking broke.

Had to rebuild my entire life due to this bs.. Thanks wsex!! U guys have ruined me.

**DudleyDawson** · 12-08-12, 09:16 AM

I think they're officially done. Funny thing is WSEX has the money....just needs to sell a couple yachts, cars, houses, etc....and pay the winners.

**Mikeyanks23** · 12-09-12, 09:46 PM

Originally posted by DudleyDawson

I think they're officially done. Funny thing is WSEX has the money....just needs to sell a couple yachts, cars, houses, etc....and pay the winners.

**pokermonster29** · 12-13-12, 02:41 PM

Great Wsex'[s phone number is down !! They owe me 70 penetrating thousand dollars and i'm about FLAT BROKE.

HADEN , JAY AND STEVE HAVE RUINED MY ENTIRE LIFE!!! I WORKED THOUSANDS OF HOURS IN THE POKER ROOM ONLY FOR THEM TO STEAL EVERY PENNY I WON IN THE POKER ROOM. I SPENT THOUSANDS OF HOURS WORKING TO MAKE THAT MONEY IN THE POKER ROOM.

I'M SO UPSET RIGHT NOW.. THEY ARE SOME OF THE WORST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD .

**5mike5** · 12-13-12, 03:09 PM

just give it up guys

the money isnt coming..

it sucks, but move on

**DudleyDawson** · 12-13-12, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by pokermonster29

Great Wsex'[s phone number is down !! They owe me 70 penetrating thousand dollars and i'm about FLAT BROKE.

HADEN , JAY AND STEVE HAVE RUINED MY ENTIRE LIFE!!! I WORKED THOUSANDS OF HOURS IN THE POKER ROOM ONLY FOR THEM TO STEAL EVERY PENNY I WON IN THE POKER ROOM. I SPENT THOUSANDS OF HOURS WORKING TO MAKE THAT MONEY IN THE POKER ROOM.

I'M SO UPSET RIGHT NOW.. THEY ARE SOME OF THE WORST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD .

what was your wsex poker handle?

**rtm415** · 12-17-12, 12:44 PM

Well I'm glad I found the Sports Betting Forum today, but wish I had found it earlier. At least now I understand why I never received my money from WSEX. I requested the withdrawal in July 2012 and never received any replies from them to my emails asking when I should expect my money. In my phone calls to them, I was always told it would take another month. Too bad because I could really use the money I'm owed.

**pokermonster29** · 01-11-13, 03:14 PM

I dont want to be mad.. or sad.. or penetrated anymore.
I just want money that I as a customer made there and owed rightfully.

**pokermonster29** · 01-11-13, 03:16 PM

I'm owed 70,000 freaking thousand and its everything to me.

I've literally had electric shut off before over not having enough moneyt o pay them over this.. had to stay at mom's a week ..she loaned me enough to turn back on .. etc etc etc.. etc.. could make a novel about being low on money yet them holding up MY MONEY in this most penetrating way.

**5mike5** · 01-11-13, 03:36 PM

this really sucks, but the money is long gone and not coming back..i mean 0% chance of it

these guys are pigs

**pokermonster29** · 01-11-13, 03:57 PM

Anybody else owed money by this place call me at 937 732 8882 and I will organize us and we will then review all options as to what we do about this legally.

or talk on here?
This place owes me 70k/ its everything to me right now.. what kind of legal action could we take and would it be effective.
Can somebody pm Lou or a lawyer from Antigua to call me?

**pokermonster29** · 01-11-13, 06:16 PM

But if managment could just talk to us.. and tell us and show us that they do have a plan to returning funds to wronged customers then that would help.

I dont want to have to take penetrating legal action and leave you in a homeless shelter.. thats why giving u chance to talk to me / call me Jay and Haden/ and lets work this out.

**tarheelfan72** · 01-12-13, 11:40 PM

You'll probably get a lot further with illegal action than legal action.

**cash415** · 01-14-13, 07:26 PM

I'm owed roughly $3k (sports bet) since November of last year and haven't been paid either. I call them at least once a month to get an update but the same bs is given to me.

Has anyone been paid by wsex yet? When was the last time someone got paid by wsex?

All of us that haven't been paid by wsex should get a lawyer and file a class action lawsuit against this company. I'm sure there's a lawyer in their jurisdiction that wouldn't mind taking this case if we all come up with a retainer. The fact that the company is avoiding to disclose their withdrawal issues on the website is a clear indication of misleading and fraud.

**pokermonster29** · 01-23-13, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by cash415

I'm owed roughly $3k (sports bet) since November of last year and haven't been paid either. I call them at least once a month to get an update but the same bs is given to me.

Has anyone been paid by wsex yet? When was the last time someone got paid by wsex?

All of us that haven't been paid by wsex should get a lawyer and file a class action lawsuit against this company. I'm sure there's a lawyer in their jurisdiction that wouldn't mind taking this case if we all come up with a retainer. The fact that the company is avoiding to disclose their withdrawal issues on the website is a clear indication of misleading and fraud.

call me.. number is few posts up

**5mike5** · 01-24-13, 12:14 AM

u guys have a better chance of meeting a leprechaun tomorrow morning and him giving u a pot of gold, than any legal action making a damn bit of a differnce or ever seeing 1% of this money owed to u by wsex....

come on guys

**Consigliere** · 02-10-13, 04:04 PM

I was using Wsex as a sportsbook for several years and had built up around 10K when I came across this thread. I hadn't been taking money out for years. I attempted several cash outs with no success.

I was however able to get all my money out, losing only 5%. Current balance sits at $100 down for $10K. If you want some details on how I did it you can send me a PM.

**5mike5** · 02-10-13, 10:04 PM

**rangerz2478** · 02-10-13, 10:47 PM

Originally posted by Consigliere

I was using Wsex as a sportsbook for several years and had built up around 10K when I came across this thread. I hadn't been taking money out for years. I attempted several cash outs with no success.

I was however able to get all my money out, losing only 5%. Current balance sits at $100 down for $10K. If you want some details on how I did it you can send me a PM.

You obviously did it by finding a bet with little or no juice comparison to another site, matching up bets, and hoping wsex loses. It's a dangerous game though, as wsex could easily get to the point of being too high you're in an even deeper hole. No guarantees here.

**onemoregoal** · 02-10-13, 10:58 PM

Dude they wont suddenly pay you 70k!!!

Reading the thread, at best you will be getting small change here and there. Thats it, even if someone deposits and loses 100k - they wont pay you the 68k. Why? Because they seem to be doing fine for themselves by just paying you all small amounts, they will continue to do this even if they "win" big...

For a good poker player, you don't seem to be very smart, which I thought would go hand in hand.
I dont mean to be rude - but you had 68k in a book and now you have no money. Maybe if i had 5million, I would leave 70k in a bookie called "WSEX" - the name is just a hook you see, a joke book. Red flag right there.

But, you did. You left 68k in a book and you had little else to survive on. Thats okay man, shit happens to everyone. But you need to man up - stand up and continue with your life. Worse things happen to everyone everyday, this very day people will have been told they will have cancer, their child might die etc etc etc. Its just money, 68k really isnt that much and you can get over it and many people have gotten over worse.

I suggest working your ass off, maybe 18-20 hours a day - cash in hand whatever. Do it, you have no choice. And if they pay you, great if not - you have to think positive and dude stop complaining, be a man ffs.

I wish you the best.

**BigPapi** · 02-11-13, 03:23 AM

Originally posted by rangerz2478

You obviously did it by finding a bet with little or no juice comparison to another site, matching up bets, and hoping wsex loses.

which is a very bad idea since you are betting against air anyway. Cant collect the WSEX side

**pokermonster29** · 02-14-13, 01:19 PM

I did not leave 68k.. i ran money up playing poker though and deserver every penny of it.

You said nothing I did not know already your penetrating moron.

**onemoregoal** · 02-14-13, 04:52 PM

If you are going to open up and talk openly about your life on the internet - then expect opinions from people.
I read your post and I felt bad for you, but in my opinion you can get past this regardless if they pay you or not.
But ok, Im the moron, whatever, what do I care?
Continue the way you are, good luck with that.
And I didnt say you deposited 68k, i said you left it in a sportsbook.

**Chuck Sims** · 02-15-13, 07:00 AM

Go to Antigua, pay a gang of Antiguan's to visit the owners of WSEX. You'll fimd them on the golf course or at the marina on their yacht.

**pokermonster29** · 02-22-13, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by onemoregoal

Dude they wont suddenly pay you 70k!!!

Reading the thread, at best you will be getting small change here and there. Thats it, even if someone deposits and loses 100k - they wont pay you the 68k. Why? Because they seem to be doing fine for themselves by just paying you all small amounts, they will continue to do this even if they "win" big...

For a good poker player, you don't seem to be very smart, which I thought would go hand in hand.
I dont mean to be rude - but you had 68k in a book and now you have no money. Maybe if i had 5million, I would leave 70k in a bookie called "WSEX" - the name is just a hook you see, a joke book. Red flag right there.

But, you did. You left 68k in a book and you had little else to survive on. Thats okay man, shit happens to everyone. But you need to man up - stand up and continue with your life. Worse things happen to everyone everyday, this very day people will have been told they will have cancer, their child might die etc etc etc. Its just money, 68k really isnt that much and you can get over it and many people have gotten over worse.

I suggest working your ass off, maybe 18-20 hours a day - cash in hand whatever. Do it, you have no choice. And if they pay you, great if not - you have to think positive and dude stop complaining, be a man ffs.

I wish you the best.

I did not leave 68k on a sportsbook dumbass. I had about 15k years ago and was trying ot get it out but money was stuck so I played poker in poker room, spent hundreds of hours, ran the 15k into about 80k.
Your post was nothing I did not know already genius.

**ElCartofor** · 02-22-13, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by pokermonster29

Anybody else owed money by this place call me at 937 732 8882 and I will organize us and we will then review all options as to what we do about this legally.

or talk on here?
This place owes me 70k/ its everything to me right now.. what kind of legal action could we take and would it be effective.
Can somebody pm Lou or a lawyer from Antigua to call me?

Unfortunately if you are from US, it is illigal for you to place online bets. If you have placed bets, it means you have broken the law. If you have broken the law, that makes you an outlaw. I think(I do not know for sure) all the bookies that accept US players, only accept them so they can steal their money, knowing that they can't take any legal action since by betting online, they are braking the law.

I am realy sorry for all those that were ripped off and all those that will be ripped off still, but you should realy not play at a bookie that alows US players. Hypothetical... if one is from US and wants to gamble online, he should find or make a realy good friend in a country that alows online betting and ask him to play for him at Pinny

I know it sucks to not be able to legaly bet online from US. If you do bet online from US(except Nevada I think), not only that you are braking the law, but you shall have no legal protection! Care!

**rangerz2478** · 02-23-13, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by ElCartofor

Unfortunately if you are from US, it is illigal for you to place online bets. If you have placed bets, it means you have broken the law. If you have broken the law, that makes you an outlaw. I think(I do not know for sure) all the bookies that accept US players, only accept them so they can steal their money, knowing that they can't take any legal action since by betting online, they are braking the law.

I am realy sorry for all those that were ripped off and all those that will be ripped off still, but you should realy not play at a bookie that alows US players. Hypothetical... if one is from US and wants to gamble online, he should find or make a realy good friend in a country that alows online betting and ask him to play for him at Pinny

I know it sucks to not be able to legaly bet online from US. If you do bet online from US(except Nevada I think), not only that you are braking the law, but you shall have no legal protection! Care!

Don't confuse this statement with the truth.

it is illegal to take a bet, it is not illegal to place one.

**ElCartofor** · 02-23-13, 09:24 PM

It is possible that I am wrong, but this is how The Interstate Wire Act(Federal Law) of 1961 begins:
<dl style="margin-top: 0.2em; margin-bottom: 0.5em; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19.1875px;"><dd style="line-height: 1.5em; margin-left: 1.6em; margin-bottom: 0.1em; margin-right: 0px;">Whoever being engaged in the business of betting or wagering knowingly uses a wire communication facility for the transmission in interstate or foreign commerce of bets or wagers or information assisting in the placing of bets or wagers on any sporting event or contest, or for the transmission of a wire communication which entitles the recipient to receive money or credit as a result of bets or wagers, or for information assisting in the placing of bets or wagers, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

I belive that "Whoever being engaged in the business of betting or wagering" also reffers to those who place bets, not only for those who take bets.</dd></dl>

**indio** · 02-23-13, 11:07 PM

Originally posted by ElCartofor

It is possible that I am wrong, but this is how The Interstate Wire Act(Federal Law) of 1961 begins:
<dl style="margin-top: 0.2em; margin-bottom: 0.5em; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19.1875px;"><dd style="line-height: 1.5em; margin-left: 1.6em; margin-bottom: 0.1em; margin-right: 0px;">Whoever being engaged in the business of betting or wagering knowingly uses a wire communication facility for the transmission in interstate or foreign commerce of bets or wagers or information assisting in the placing of bets or wagers on any sporting event or contest, or for the transmission of a wire communication which entitles the recipient to receive money or credit as a result of bets or wagers, or for information assisting in the placing of bets or wagers, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

I belive that "Whoever being engaged in the business of betting or wagering" also reffers to those who place bets, not only for those who take bets.</dd></dl>

It is not illegal to place a bet. Don't ever plan on becoming a lawyer. Since 1961, not a single person has been charged with placing a bet under this statute, because it is clearly for those in the business of wagering on a sporting event, hence, a bookmaker.

**ElCartofor** · 02-24-13, 09:56 AM

English is not my primary language, therefor I might draw wrong conclusions...

The Act dose not specify that it only reffers to those "owning" or "running" a business of betting. It reffers to "whoever being engaged in the business". I do belive(I might be wrong), that a "client" of a "business" is a person "engaged" in the given business.

I ask you... by placing a bet, are you or not in the position of being "engaged" with the business of betting?

I have read around the internet about court decisions and I have found that some courts share your view(that the Act only reffers to persons accepting bets), but some courts ruled that the Act applies to both parties involved in the business of betting.

I ask you this because I do not know... do you have a legal option for declaring your online betting revenues for the purpose of tax in US?

**Ca31130** · 03-03-13, 04:13 PM

I would be interested to know how you collected? Recently requested a check and have a balance of 16,000. I have lost 10's of thousands to wsex over the years. This is a major disappointment. I am reading that people collect here and there but I am not optimistic about collecting.

**miryu** · 03-05-13, 08:44 AM

Originally posted by Consigliere

I was using Wsex as a sportsbook for several years and had built up around 10K when I came across this thread. I hadn't been taking money out for years. I attempted several cash outs with no success.

I was however able to get all my money out, losing only 5%. Current balance sits at $100 down for $10K. If you want some details on how I did it you can send me a PM.

It's like a different way than I usually withdrawal of 5%.
I want to know the details.
If thats ok, please PM.