Tom Dwan Versus Phil Hellmuth High Stakes Duel - Large Equity Advantage

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  • milwaukee mike
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    • 08-22-07
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    #36
    Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
    Anyone else's wager still pending?
    did hellmuth quit? otherwise the bet keeps going
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    • JAKEPEAVY21
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      #37
      Originally posted by milwaukee mike
      did hellmuth quit? otherwise the bet keeps going
      my bad I thought we were just betting on the other night's result
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      • doylebrinson
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        • 02-22-18
        • 226

        #38
        Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
        my bad I thought we were just betting on the other night's result
        Hellmuth is supposed to have a three to four days for deciding to rebuy or quit. We should be receiving updates either today or tomorrow.
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        • JoeCool20
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          • 05-31-18
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          #39
          How long did the TV station let Phil whine about getting his AA cracked by some "idiot" who played 9-3?

          LOL And how many times did he call Dwan an idiot for playing 9 3?
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          • JAKEPEAVY21
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            #40
            Originally posted by doylebrinson
            Hellmuth is supposed to have a three to four days for deciding to rebuy or quit. We should be receiving updates either today or tomorrow.
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            • doylebrinson
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              • 02-22-18
              • 226

              #41
              Originally posted by JoeCool20
              How long did the TV station let Phil whine about getting his AA cracked by some "idiot" who played 9-3?

              LOL And how many times did he call Dwan an idiot for playing 9 3?
              Hellmuth took the 93 cracking his aces pretty well. Phil did invite it by opening limping the button with AA. Before the hand started, he defiantly wanted that type of action for a chance to double up his ~20K chips (20% of starting stack). Phil played it great, just didnt work out this time. He lost this match 3-4.5 hours into it. Tom Dwan adjusted to Phils playing style extremely well. Phil has defiantly shrunken back from the bull shit he has thrown Tom Dwans way over the years. At one point in this heads up match he said something along the lines to Tom, "your the only one Ive played heads up that get away with raising almost every button". Phil has learned to respect Tom as one of the best players in the game. Phil said later on, "I wish I could play against you forever". It was part trash talk about how Tom likes to make big call offs with weak hands. However it was really Hellmuth saying that he knows by playing Tom Dwan, he is challenged, and will improve his heads up game to another level by engaging him competitively. With all of that said. I highly expect Hellmuth to rebuy for $200,000. He is still up $700,000 in 8 heads up matches (in this format, (7 wins 1 loss). Phil will want the opportunity to study and rechallenge Dwan. Hellmuth wants to become much better at heads up. He clearly has his eyes set on a heads up WSOP Bracelet in the future! With the kind of performance he put up in Round 1 against Dwan, I would not bet against Hellmuth doing just that in the next five years.


              PS - I love your Avatar! Thats exactly how its done! Projecting ourselves into our desired outcomes!
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              • doylebrinson
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                • 02-22-18
                • 226

                #42
                Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                It shouldnt be long now! Should be hearing the news any day now!
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                • JAKEPEAVY21
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                  #43
                  Bloody hell, still pending
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                  • doylebrinson
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                    • 02-22-18
                    • 226

                    #44
                    Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                    Bloody hell, still pending
                    Hellmuth has officially challenged Dwan to round 3! He will buy in for $200,000. It is unknown when they will play but is suspected to be around the WSOP start at the end of September.

                    Phil tweeted @ Tom Dwan, "I texted my boy
                    @TomDwan
                    to let him know that I am officially challenging him to a match for $200,000 ($400,000 total) in “High Stakes Duel,” only on @PokerGo
                    App. Tom is a great great poker player, and he beat me last match. I’m sure next round will be a battle! #POSITIVITY"

                    Hellmuth losing and acting with grace, dignity, and respect! I am impressed. He has come a long way from calling Tom an internet guy that would probably not be around for more than ten years. Phil will be a force for years at this heads up thing! He is taking it very seriously and will be sharpened by this experience.

                    Here is the pokernews article covering it:
                    https://www.pokernews.com/news/2021/09/phil-hellmuth-tom-dwan-rematch-39776.htm



                    Last edited by doylebrinson; 09-09-21, 10:45 AM.
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                    • JAKEPEAVY21
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                      #45
                      I didn't realize that this was a Futures bet.
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                      • JAKEPEAVY21
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                        I didn't realize that this was a Futures bet.
                        What did we get ourselves into?

                        Will this be graded before 2022?
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                        • Optional
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                          • 06-10-10
                          • 60662

                          #47
                          Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                          What did we get ourselves into?

                          Will this be graded before 2022?
                          Hasn't that happened before with Tom Dwan and challenge bets?
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                          • JAKEPEAVY21
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by Optional
                            Hasn't that happened before with Tom Dwan and challenge bets?
                            Yeah maybe, I have not really kept track of any of that. I thought the wager was for only the match that evening.
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                            • Crusherrr
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                              • 06-27-16
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                              #49
                              This is ridiculous. I didn't see anywhere in the rules it was for anything more than just that one night/one match. They should grade this already.
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                              • DontTailMe
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                                • 03-24-19
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by Crusherrr
                                This is ridiculous. I didn't see anywhere in the rules it was for anything more than just that one night/one match. They should grade this already.
                                Where did you bet it? This thread is in reference to the line at BetOnline, and they were pretty clear. From their contest notes:
                                Winner of Heads up High Stakes Duel. Whoever is declared Ultimate Winner any format at end of all rematches.
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                                • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                  #51
                                  Will this get graded prior to 2022?

                                  I'm thinking no
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                                  • Crusherrr
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                                    • 06-27-16
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                    Will this get graded prior to 2022?

                                    I'm thinking no
                                    Think it's worth a shot asking them to grade it as no action? Id imagine they'd be happy to do that if you took Dwan.
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                                    • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Crusherrr
                                      Think it's worth a shot asking them to grade it as no action? Id imagine they'd be happy to do that if you took Dwan.
                                      Will this get graded prior to 2023?
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                                      • Optional
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                                        • 06-10-10
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                                        #54
                                        what a cluster this prop bet offer was
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                                        • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by Optional
                                          what a cluster this prop bet offer was
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                                          • pablo222
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                                            • 01-03-19
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21

                                            Will this get graded prior to 2023?
                                            <br>
                                            <br><a href="https://www.pokerlistings.com/jungleman-dwan-avoiding-playing-penalties-in-durrrr-challenge-66484">Jungleman: Dwan Won't Play, Pay Penalties in durrrr Challenge (pokerlistings.com)</a><br><br>
                                            <br>

                                            Might have to wait until 2033
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                                            • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                              #57
                                              Looks like they finally agreed to another match on Jan 26th

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                                              • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                                #58
                                                Hellmuth beat Dwan last night for 400k. They are playing again soon for 800k.

                                                <br><br>https://www.cardplayer.com/poker-new...heads-up-match
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                                                • DontTailMe
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                                                  • 03-24-19
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                  Hellmuth beat Dwan last night for 400k. They are playing again soon for 800k.

                                                  <br><br>https://www.cardplayer.com/poker-new...heads-up-match
                                                  Which will settle first? Our Hellmuth/Dwan bets or my wagers on the 2022 mid-term elections?
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                                                  • solring
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                                                    • 11-04-09
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by DontTailMe
                                                    Which will settle first? Our Hellmuth/Dwan bets or my wagers on the 2022 mid-term elections?
                                                    Easily the elections...
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                                                    • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                                      #61
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                                                      • Crusherrr
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                                                        #62
                                                        Dwan backed out. Wonder if its ruled no action or a loss for Dwan
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                                                        • DontTailMe
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                                                          • 03-24-19
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Crusherrr
                                                          Dwan backed out. Wonder if its ruled no action or a loss for Dwan
                                                          Good question. There seems to be some confusion about this. It's being reported that this is because Dwan was stuck overseas and Tom is saying on Twitter that he asked for a reschedule and did not withdraw. I guess we'll see.
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                                                          • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                                            #64
                                                            It sounds like we are in limbo again...JFC

                                                            With Tom Dwan bowing out of his scheduled rematch with Phil Hellmuth on PokerGO&#8217;s High Stakes Duel, a new competitor has emerged in three-time WSOP bracelet winner and high-stakes pro Scott Seiver. Each player will be buying in for $400,000, with the winner taking home the entire $800,000. &#8220;This program has been a must-watch event each episode so far and I wanted an opportunity to be a part of the action and hopefully add my own mark on it,&#8221; Seiver said to PokerGO. He&#8217;ll have his work cut out for him against Hellmuth, who has been very successful in the heads-up format. Hellmuth started off by sweeping Antonio Esfandiari in three matches, before doing the same to Daniel Negreanu. He then beat Nick Wright, before Dwan stepped in and ended his winning streak. Hellmuth got revenge in the next match, however, setting up a third round between these two poker legends that first matched up all the way back in the 2008 NBC National Heads-Up Poker Championship. Unfortunately for poker fans, Dwan had to cancel due to a scheduling conflict. ...
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                                                            • Crusherrr
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                                                              #65
                                                              It should be graded one way or another. Dwan went 1-0. Whether they think thats considered a win or a no action is up to them. Dwan didn't back out, he was forced to be in Madrid for Triton series as he's an ambassador for them.

                                                              With WSOP quickly approaching I doubt they play again anytime soon.
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                                                              • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Crusherrr
                                                                It should be graded one way or another. Dwan went 1-0. Whether they think thats considered a win or a no action is up to them. Dwan didn't back out, he was forced to be in Madrid for Triton series as he's an ambassador for them.

                                                                With WSOP quickly approaching I doubt they play again anytime soon.
                                                                I'm almost certain it's 1-1 and Helmuth has won at least one match?
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                                                                • milwaukee mike
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  wow i had forgotten all about this

                                                                  jeez
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                                                                  • Crusherrr
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    They graded Dwan as a loss. It should be no action.
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                                                                    • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by Crusherrr
                                                                      They graded Dwan as a loss. It should be no action.
                                                                      What a joke.
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