All Youwager and Betpop Issues

**Optional** · 07-25-22, 01:51 PM

Youwager can be difficult if you have a disagreement with them. And cannot be relied upon to always get it right in disputes.

They have also started imposing a 2.5% withdrawal fee on "sharp accounts" without any notice.

People just get hit with it suddenly on withdraw with no chance to make a choice about it. Which I think shows the poor ethics management there have.

If they simply told players they would be charged that fee in future instead of basically stealing it against terms there would be no problem. But Youwager simply dont care about ethics or doing the right thing.

**JAKEPEAVY21** · 07-25-22, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by captrobey

Wow i just did a thread on this just did not name the book but yea it is them. It is a GREAT bonus with one giant flaw. A 30 day hold . I recently lost $5000 there because i got stupid and could not just wait the 30 days. But they are offering the Xmas in July so its 200% FP and even a 100% casino . I have it blocked but last time they activated it i lost the amount in there of the casino bonus and i immediately had it blocked again. The roll is fair 10xs. I am assuming this deal is the same for everyone. I was not going to do it but the more i thought about it 200% is really good there and who knows maybe get extremely lucky in casino and win a little bit.

Originally posted by Keith Richard

I thought it was 20x rollover? It is at least Betpop which is basically same company.

I'm seeing 20x as well, robey

**captrobey** · 07-25-22, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21

I'm seeing 20x as well, robey

Yea i see that too but the e-mail i was sent does say 10xs

Hello Robert,

Ok no problem let me know when you ready.

This week we have a 200% free play with 10 time and 30 day hold. No payout till the roll over is met.

Plus 100% casino bonus.

**Fishhead** · 07-25-22, 09:40 PM

Great baseball out, rollover should be of little concern.

**Judge Crater** · 07-26-22, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Youwager can be difficult if you have a disagreement with them. And cannot be relied upon to always get it right in disputes.

They have also started imposing a 2.5% withdrawal fee on "sharp accounts" without any notice.

People just get hit with it suddenly on withdraw with no chance to make a choice about it. Which I think shows the poor ethics management there have.

If they simply told players they would be charged that fee in future instead of basically stealing it against terms there would be no problem. But Youwager simply dont care about ethics or doing the right thing.

That's a pretty spot on assessment

**captrobey** · 07-26-22, 08:57 PM

So it is 20xs rollover it said 10xs in the e-mail but it must have been a typo

**Fishhead** · 07-26-22, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by captrobey

So it is 20xs rollover it said 10xs in the e-mail but it must have been a typo

Youwager is such a great OUT, rollover is of little concern.

**captrobey** · 07-26-22, 10:23 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

Youwager is such a great OUT, rollover is of little concern.

Thats a bit too high a $400 deposit is a $24000 rollover. I would have done it at 10xs. I still may do it but i have other options that i do not have to wait 30 days and way less rollover and still a decent bonus.

**pologq** · 07-27-22, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by captrobey

Thats a bit too high a $400 deposit is a $24000 rollover. I would have done it at 10xs. I still may do it but i have other options that i do not have to wait 30 days and way less rollover and still a decent bonus.

if i deposit $250 and get $500 freeplay for 200% bonus that is $750 x 20 = $15000. for my bet amounts it will take me a long time but i am thinking about it. i think it expires on 8/19.

i like that youwager still takes z elle also.

**mtneer1212** · 07-27-22, 09:05 AM

I have always been paid without hassle from them. They are not the great book they were 5 years ago when the freeplay wheel was a great promo that often gave generous free plays. When that went away, their whole business model changed to a more restrictive and greedy model. They are still a good out, but they are a little tough to deal with if you have an issue now.

**captrobey** · 07-27-22, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by pologq

if i deposit $250 and get $500 freeplay for 200% bonus that is $750 x 20 = $15000. for my bet amounts it will take me a long time but i am thinking about it. i think it expires on 8/19.

i like that youwager still takes z elle also.

Yea a lesser amount may be Ok . Normally on my first All in i like to try and break $1000 and go from there. But they limit you and i do not think any other book does this to $300 max on the Free Play. At $300 thats $18000 a bit better . Although i still may do something idk. I cannot cash out for 30 days anyways . I never have had anything good happen in the beyond rigged casino which is why i blocked it. But who knows maybe one time i get a little lucky and even get enough to add on and get me over the $1000 on the first bet .

**JAKEPEAVY21** · 07-27-22, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by pologq

if i deposit $250 and get $500 freeplay for 200% bonus that is $750 x 20 = $15000. for my bet amounts it will take me a long time but i am thinking about it. i think it expires on 8/19.

i like that youwager still takes z elle also.

I like to go allin first bet on a bonus like that and either have a decent roll to work with on that rollover or move on to some other bonus elsewhere.

**captrobey** · 07-27-22, 11:42 AM

Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21

I like to go allin first bet on a bonus like that and either have a decent roll to work with on that rollover or move on to some other bonus elsewhere.

Well i know you know me that it is my attack strategy every time All in until you get to where you want to be and slow it down. With this though at a high roll if you get hot and reach $10000 where you normally would cash out you still have a lot of roll to do if you deposited $350-$400 .

**JAKEPEAVY21** · 07-27-22, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by captrobey

Well i know you know me that it is my attack strategy every time All in until you get to where you want to be and slow it down. With this though at a high roll if you get hot and reach $10000 where you normally would cash out you still have a lot of roll to do if you deposited $350-$400 .

Yes, I know your strategy.

Difference with mine is that I only go allin on that first wager. If that hits then I bet smaller trying to clear the rollover with volume.

**captrobey** · 07-27-22, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21

Yes, I know your strategy.

Difference with mine is that I only go allin on that first wager. If that hits then I bet smaller trying to clear the rollover with volume.

That may be the move on this bonus because if i get to $10000 i may still have another $10000-$14000 of rollover. May be a good spot to slow it down maybe 4 $250 bets or 2 $500 bets and hope to split at worse to widdle that down.

**Fishhead** · 07-27-22, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by captrobey

That may be the move on this bonus because if i get to $10000 i may still have another $10000-$14000 of rollover. May be a good spot to slow it down maybe 4 $250 bets or 2 $500 bets and hope to split at worse to widdle that down.

Scalp when your YW figure gets high..............YW has highly scalpable lines daily.
One can even take negative scalps up to 3-5 cents to clear rollover or whack out.
Even without a bonus, YW is a very good out, especially for bases.

**captrobey** · 07-27-22, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

Scalp when your YW figure gets high..............YW has highly scalpable lines daily.
One can even take negative scalps up to 3-5 cents to clear rollover or whack out.
Even without a bonus, YW is a very good out, especially for bases.

I do like them the bonuses are above average and most importantly they pay. But they seem to think their bonuses are the best and they just are not. But they are consistently above average which is good.

**captrobey** · 07-27-22, 03:00 PM

Makes me wonder what would have happened if i deposited going by the 10xs in the e-mail and they turned around and said it was 20xs . I would have been in here in a heartbeat if they gave me trouble if that would have happened. I probably should have did it but i am just too honest figuring it was an honest typo.But it did say 10xs in the e-mail they sent me.

**Keith Richard** · 07-29-22, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by Mugsy777

No ,don't try to play at both , they will give you trouble

This is where I heard not to play at both books. What am to believe here?

**firedawg** · 07-29-22, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by Keith Richard

This is where I heard not to play at both books. What am to believe here?

It’s fine

**captrobey** · 08-10-22, 08:55 AM

So this happened about a few days ago at Betpop . I was pretty pissed from this and wrote an e-mail to my account rep because i feel they are basically ripping players off with the casino bonus.

So i have the casino blocked but for the 100 % they unblocked it. I figure why not i never won in there all it did was take but that is why it was blocked for over a year . So i got like $475 or so it was in there.

I go in and played awhile and actually somehow going back and forth with BJ was at $1500 + . I look and saw i had played over the required rollover and was thing omg i actually am going to get $1500. Happy days right.

So i go on live chat and they put me through to the girl who is the casino mgr. Then she tells me i can on the bonus only win twice my deposit . So i would not get $1500 i would get $900+ . This was never mentioned in any email i was sent . But Ok $900+ still helps me.

Then i am told i still have not completed my actual rollover. I still had a lot left because BJ only counts 25% towards the rollover. Here is where it gets me pissed off. She tells me do not worry because you have $1500 and just play slots they count as 100% . She said to "Trust her" i will get it completed with $1500.

So i go on slots and i really do not play slots a lot but Ok she guaranteed me i would get it. Are you thinking i lost the $1500? At this point you would have guessed wrong. At least at this point.

I get a huge hit for $1100. Yes i went from $1500 to $2600 + . So she pretty much said with $1500 playing slots i would get it now i am at $2600+

So i play nothing but slots. And i believe they have this rigged that when you get to a certain point with rollover you start losing nonstop . And next thing you know i could not hit a thing and i go from $2600+ and being told dont worry you will get it to going under $1000. I saw at that rate i still needed $2000 in rollover and i had no chance with the slots so i went to BJ where i had luck in the beginning i figured win a couple $100 and go back to slots . But i bet $100 a hand and i lost every hand.

So after spending what felt like 3 hours of my life between BJ and spinning the stupid slot machine despite being guaranteed by the casino mgr i would get the rollover no problem even after getting it to $2600+ i STILL ended up not winning a penetrating cent.

So out of curiosity has anyone ever won a damn thing in their casino because after this i can say if i cannot complete the rollover with $2600+ that the way this thing is rigged that noone will ever win anything because it is literally impossible.

**pologq** · 08-10-22, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by captrobey

So this happened about a few days ago at Betpop . I was pretty pissed from this and wrote an e-mail to my account rep because i feel they are basically ripping players off with the casino bonus.

So i have the casino blocked but for the 100 % they unblocked it. I figure why not i never won in there all it did was take but that is why it was blocked for over a year . So i got like $475 or so it was in there.

I go in and played awhile and actually somehow going back and forth with BJ was at $1500 + . I look and saw i had played over the required rollover and was thing omg i actually am going to get $1500. Happy days right.

So i go on live chat and they put me through to the girl who is the casino mgr. Then she tells me i can on the bonus only win twice my deposit . So i would not get $1500 i would get $900+ . This was never mentioned in any email i was sent . But Ok $900+ still helps me.

Then i am told i still have not completed my actual rollover. I still had a lot left because BJ only counts 25% towards the rollover. Here is where it gets me pissed off. She tells me do not worry because you have $1500 and just play slots they count as 100% . She said to "Trust her" i will get it completed with $1500.

So i go on slots and i really do not play slots a lot but Ok she guaranteed me i would get it. Are you thinking i lost the $1500? At this point you would have guessed wrong. At least at this point.

I get a huge hit for $1100. Yes i went from $1500 to $2600 + . So she pretty much said with $1500 playing slots i would get it now i am at $2600+

So i play nothing but slots. And i believe they have this rigged that when you get to a certain point with rollover you start losing nonstop . And next thing you know i could not hit a thing and i go from $2600+ and being told dont worry you will get it to going under $1000. I saw at that rate i still needed $2000 in rollover and i had no chance with the slots so i went to BJ where i had luck in the beginning i figured win a couple $100 and go back to slots . But i bet $100 a hand and i lost every hand.

So after spending what felt like 3 hours of my life between BJ and spinning the stupid slot machine despite being guaranteed by the casino mgr i would get the rollover no problem even after getting it to $2600+ i STILL ended up not winning a penetrating cent.

So out of curiosity has anyone ever won a damn thing in their casino because after this i can say if i cannot complete the rollover with $2600+ that the way this thing is rigged that noone will ever win anything because it is literally impossible.

sucks they make BJ count less toward the RO. other books do the same & it def gets annoying. just another way to fcuk the player.

i have had casino bonuses where I win first but then lose as i get closer to completion. happened with bookmaker and betus in the past. whenever i did play at youwager's casino it was very quick and i think it was a bonus that i had lost as well. don't remember much success with their software.

this is why unless i get a casino bonus they are all blocked. when you see the patterns of losing and how the switch flips it is not fun. bad enough there is an edge in the games but then the computer goes into fcuk you mode also.

**captrobey** · 08-10-22, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by pologq

sucks they make BJ count less toward the RO. other books do the same & it def gets annoying. just another way to fcuk the player.

i have had casino bonuses where I win first but then lose as i get closer to completion. happened with bookmaker and betus in the past. whenever i did play at youwager's casino it was very quick and i think it was a bonus that i had lost as well. don't remember much success with their software.

this is why unless i get a casino bonus they are all blocked. when you see the patterns of losing and how the switch flips it is not fun. bad enough there is an edge in the games but then the computer goes into fcuk you mode also.

I have noticed that too where you are hitting at first winning and at a certain point it knows what you need and you will start losing. There were times i was way up and i still lost. The worst was one where i hit a jackpot with a slot a little guy with a mule climbs a hill the higher you go the more you get. I hit the jackpot at like $4800 . I still lost not completing rollover because i lost almost every hand , spin, whatever after that. I may win maybe a couple bucks if i am lucky but mostly the bonuses are rigged and a waste of time.

What pissed me off on this was this casino lady mgr told me not to worry i will complete rollover with $1500 "Trust her ". Then i hit the big hit getting to $2600 +. If she guaranteed i would do it on slots with $1500 i should easily as hell do it with $2600+. I was hitting too before i got to that . Then as soon as i got to where as long as i hit a few here and there i should easily have had it. But i lost literally every spin. Then i lost every BJ hand. As soon as i was like under $3000 for the rollover it just drained it all.

I will not bother with the casino again that just shows you have zero chance. Whats the point if they are just going to screw you .

**Fishhead** · 08-10-22, 03:54 PM

Stick with sports folks

**Optional** · 08-10-22, 03:56 PM

I think we all should just avoid any online casino games.

Only way to get a halfway fair game is to get off our bum and go into a land based casino.

**KiDBaZkiT** · 08-10-22, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by Optional

I think we all should just avoid any online casino games.

Truer words have never been spoken. I’ve been very disciplined in that aspect over the years but to say I’ve never fallen victim to online casino would be a lie. Haven’t played at an online casino on probably 4-5 years though. Capt Rob is a straight degen though and don’t think he will ever stop with the online casino.

**captrobey** · 08-10-22, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by Optional

I think we all should just avoid any online casino games.

Only way to get a halfway fair game is to get off our bum and go into a land based casino.

Originally posted by KiDBaZkiT

Truer words have never been spoken. I’ve been very disciplined in that aspect over the years but to say I’ve never fallen victim to online casino would be a lie. Haven’t played at an online casino on probably 4-5 years though. Capt Rob is a straight degen though and don’t think he will ever stop with the online casino.

Not true 100% though. I have taken measures to limit myself. Lets see. Betpop and Youwager both blocked for Over a year until i started getting the 100% bonus . Then i just unblocked it only for the bonuses which have proven you have no chance to win anything in there after what just happened. Justbet is blocked no casino. Betus is blocked except for some reason a couple of the slots which i do not play anyways. Bookmaker is blocked no casino. GTbets is active . Jazz is blocked. Heritage is active . So most of the offshore ones as you can see are blocked. Now the NJ ones especially Caesars which destroyed my life over a year ago those i need to stay out of .

**captrobey** · 08-14-22, 03:20 PM

So my phone rang i did not answer then it rings again . Kind of pisses me off when people ring back to back feels like i am being harassed . Of course it was them trying to get me to deposit $100 . I told him i was still pissed from what happened with the whole casino crap. He starts telling me to just play the bonus (Which i did almost 3 hours of my life wasted for nothing) and i was not interested. I feel the casino gives you zero chance i do not ever remember anyone on here saying they won. I told him it is impossible to win in there he said "We pay out people all the time in there" . I do not believe him. I used to play years in there before and all it did was take everything never won a damn thing.

He kept trying to get me to deposit $100 i just do not give a crap about depositing $100 i just want to do sports there and keep casino blocked again. He seemed a bit pissed i did not deposit but i am not ready to deposit again until next pay day .

**Fishhead** · 08-14-22, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by Optional

I think we all should just avoid any online casino games.

Only way to get a halfway fair game is to get off our bum and go into a land based casino.

**Btgorilla** · 08-15-22, 10:58 AM

I read the terms and everything. I rolled over like 2 1/2 weeks in and the past 2 weeks I’ve been still playing and finally passed the 30 day hold this past weekend . I requested a payout last nite I’ll see how it goes .

**Fishhead** · 08-16-22, 07:10 PM

Anyone looking to attack the YouWager early Christmas bonus, keep in mind, it expires AUGUST 19th

**pologq** · 08-17-22, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by Btgorilla

I read the terms and everything. I rolled over like 2 1/2 weeks in and the past 2 weeks I’ve been still playing and finally passed the 30 day hold this past weekend . I requested a payout last nite I’ll see how it goes .

very nice. hope you made a good profit.

**daneault23** · 08-17-22, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

Anyone looking to attack the YouWager early Christmas bonus, keep in mind, it expires AUGUST 19th

Would you take a 200% sports FP offer there or a 100% cash bonus offer with another reputable book? For example, if Heritage were to offer 100% cash (I believe this was their FB offer last year), which would you take if you exclusively play NCAAF/NFL for the next 6 months?

**Fishhead** · 08-18-22, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

Anyone looking to attack the YouWager early Christmas bonus, keep in mind, it expires AUGUST 19th

**Fishhead** · 08-20-22, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

Anyone looking to attack the YouWager early Christmas bonus, keep in mind, it expires AUGUST 19th

The new bonus nearly as good.
180% sports plus 100% casino

Expires end of month

GL punters