At what point will BetMGM limit?

**stevenash** · 01-14-22, 11:36 PM

Originally posted by turbobets

Thinking about requesting a payout but I don't want to draw attention yet.

How much we talking here?

**turbobets** · 01-14-22, 11:42 PM

>10K

**Barrakuda** · 01-15-22, 03:42 AM

I would advise against. Not sure their exact trigger, but I think payouts will hasten one's demise there.

**stevenash** · 01-15-22, 08:09 AM

I was thinking in small segments periodically.

**Mugsy777** · 01-15-22, 08:19 AM

They limited me a few months ago and I am a losing plyer with them

**turbobets** · 01-15-22, 09:27 AM

Yeah, I think I'll just wait until they force the issue.

**Shifty** · 01-15-22, 10:23 AM

Has anyone who was limited tried opening up in another state? Do you get fresh limits? Another bonus?

**d2bets** · 01-15-22, 10:28 AM

What a joke book. How they expect to succeed not letting people bet? Vegas book forever, you'd think they'd know how to book.

**stevenash** · 01-15-22, 10:40 AM

MGM is what it is and has been for 100 years now.
A tight ass dollar first mega conglomerate.

Read up on Marcus Loew (name sound familiar)?
And Louis Mayer.

Treated those all time great actors like dog shit.
They made the money for MGM, not the other way around, but back then the actors had no union, no rights.
MGM ran all over them.

Despise them.

**d2bets** · 01-15-22, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by stevenash

MGM is what it is and has been for 100 years now.
A tight ass dollar first mega conglomerate.

Read up on Marcus Loew (name sound familiar)?
And Louis Mayer.

Treated those all time great actors like dog shit.
They made the money for MGM, not the other way around, but back then the actors had no union, no rights.
MGM ran all over them.

Despise them.

Yeah, but how are they even going to make it work acting like a two-bit operation like that? You mean to tell me than MGM in Vegas doesn't book bets?

**stevenash** · 01-15-22, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

Yeah, but how are they even going to make it work acting like a two-bit operation like that? You mean to tell me than MGM in Vegas doesn't book bets?

Sure they do.
Does MGM throw whales comps?
Yes, but you have to bet like 20 purple chips a hand.
What's their standard juice at the betting window?
Ten percent?

They don't give a shit about you or me, just the dollar.

**Frank** · 01-15-22, 12:28 PM

In Vegas, they limit on the app without winning much at all.

They don't cut to peanuts but they do cut.

I would imagine other states limit quicker.

**weeminer** · 01-15-22, 01:08 PM

Definitely wait as long as you can to cashout. Have found that across all domestic sportsbooks to be the biggest trigger to getting limited

**Mugsy777** · 01-15-22, 02:53 PM

They cut me to $80 max bets and that was after I lost over $8,000 with them ,pathetic, no excuses accepted. I bet everything under the sun with them ,no steam , and they still cut

**jjgold** · 01-16-22, 02:01 PM

these books for micro bettors especially mgm

**d2bets** · 01-16-22, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by Mugsy777

They cut me to $80 max bets and that was after I lost over $8,000 with them ,pathetic, no excuses accepted. I bet everything under the sun with them ,no steam , and they still cut

Incredible. It's almost like they don't want to take wagers.

**stevenash** · 01-16-22, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

Incredible. It's almost like they don't want to take wagers.

Sounds to me like MGM doesn't want to give him a chance to get it back.

MGM is evil, like I said the other day, they don't give a shit about you or me.

**d2bets** · 01-16-22, 09:24 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

Sounds to me like MGM doesn't want to give him a chance to get it back.

MGM is evil, like I said the other day, they don't give a shit about you or me.

What a dumb approach. He would probably keep doing what he's losing. They limit if you win and limit if you lose.

**stevenash** · 01-16-22, 09:30 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

What a dumb approach. He would probably keep doing what he's losing. They limit if you win and limit if you lose.

That's what it looks like to me, yeah it is a dumb approach.
If I was a sports book manager and I had a customer that's a regular loser, the last thing I would do is limit him.
Unless it was clear that the customers losses were detrimental to his well being, than I'd step in.

**d2bets** · 01-16-22, 09:45 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

That's what it looks like to me, yeah it is a dumb approach.
If I was a sports book manager and I had a customer that's a regular loser, the last thing I would do is limit him.
Unless it was clear that the customers losses were detrimental to his well being, than I'd step in.

lol yeah I'm sure that's what they were thinking.

**Sandybestdog** · 01-21-22, 01:09 AM

Originally posted by Mugsy777

They limited me a few months ago and I am a losing plyer with them

Same. I think they probably somehow track the bets you place vs the market price for those. Doesn't matter if you lose if you bet something at +150 and the market everywhere else was +135 then they know you have half a brain and they don't want you. Doesn't matter if you won or lost.

One thing never mentioned is your other activity in your account. The reason DK will be so successful is because they are turning sports bettors into degenerate online casino gamblers. If you win on sports but go play blackjack after then what do they care? Since MGM limited me I have nothing to do there. I'm not going to deposit to play at the casino. I'll go somewhere else. They don't grasp this concept.

**d2bets** · 01-21-22, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by Sandybestdog

Same. I think they probably somehow track the bets you place vs the market price for those. Doesn't matter if you lose if you bet something at +150 and the market everywhere else was +135 then they know you have half a brain and they don't want you. Doesn't matter if you won or lost.

One thing never mentioned is your other activity in your account. The reason DK will be so successful is because they are turning sports bettors into degenerate online casino gamblers. If you win on sports but go play blackjack after then what do they care? Since MGM limited me I have nothing to do there. I'm not going to deposit to play at the casino. I'll go somewhere else. They don't grasp this concept.

MGM is basically a sportsbook that doesn't want to book sports bets. It's the oddest thing. Like Mickey D's limiting burger buys. Or Starbucks limiting caffeine intake.

**bitcoinLuke** · 01-22-22, 12:13 AM

Why do you guys play at these Mickey Mouse books?

Bookmaker, Pinnacle, done

You shouldnt be using anything else, ever!

**Optional** · 01-22-22, 09:13 AM

If anyone who has had an account limited wants to help stop this from becoming more common, take the time to send a short email your state regulator just saying what happened and that you think it's an unfair practice. Not even asking for anything.

It really does not take a lot of people saying something to get a reaction from these regulators. If nothing else at least asking the book about it privately.

**d2bets** · 01-22-22, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by bitcoinLuke

Why do you guys play at these Mickey Mouse books?

Bookmaker, Pinnacle, done

You shouldnt be using anything else, ever!

You should if you want to win. Easier to beat Mickey Mouse.

**d2bets** · 01-22-22, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by Optional

If anyone who has had an account limited wants to help stop this from becoming more common, take the time to send a short email your state regulator just saying what happened and that you think it's an unfair practice. Not even asking for anything.

It really does not take a lot of people saying something to get a reaction from these regulators. If nothing else at least asking the book about it privately.

The idea being that a book can set any limit they want but it should be uniform across the board for customers without discrimination. So if MGM wants to limit everyone to $100, fine. But they can't take $100k from one player and only let another bet $10.

**DontTailMe** · 01-22-22, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by Optional

If anyone who has had an account limited wants to help stop this from becoming more common, take the time to send a short email your state regulator just saying what happened and that you think it's an unfair practice. Not even asking for anything.

It really does not take a lot of people saying something to get a reaction from these regulators. If nothing else at least asking the book about it privately.

This is an excellent idea. Get this concept into government representatives' heads now while the industry is still fresh, before limiting becomes a normal, expected practice. These large corporations undoubtedly have many high priced lobbyists working to shape regulations in their favor. Don't let them win.

The game is already rigged in their favor via generous vig. They shouldn't be able to discriminate against certain customers on top of that.

**d2bets** · 01-22-22, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by DontTailMe

This is an excellent idea. Get this concept into government representatives' heads now while the industry is still fresh, before limiting becomes a normal, expected practice. These large corporations undoubtedly have many high priced lobbyists working to shape regulations in their favor. Don't let them win.

The game is already rigged in their favor via generous vig. They shouldn't be able to discriminate against certain customers on top of that.

Sounds nice, but ain't no way it's gonna work. Lawmakers ain't gonna care that people can't bet as much as they want.

**Barrakuda** · 01-22-22, 09:53 PM

Originally posted by Optional

If anyone who has had an account limited wants to help stop this from becoming more common, take the time to send a short email your state regulator just saying what happened and that you think it's an unfair practice. Not even asking for anything.

It really does not take a lot of people saying something to get a reaction from these regulators. If nothing else at least asking the book about it privately.

Dear Player,

Thank you for contacting BetMGM Online Gaming Customer Service.

Good day. After looking into your query we can confirm that your Sports betting limits will remain as they are for now. These limits are defined by us and may differ from the limits in the General Terms and Conditions. We do review them frequently so there is always a possibility they may change in the future, or they may stay as they are.

We hope you understand.

In case you have further questions, we will be more than happy to assist you. We are available 24 hours, please review our FAQs section and get in touch

here

for assistance.

Thank you for choosing us as your online gaming site.

Sincerely,
Sharice,

**d2bets** · 01-22-22, 09:56 PM

Originally posted by Barrakuda

Dear Player,

Thank you for contacting BetMGM Online Gaming Customer Service.

Good day. After looking into your query we can confirm that your Sports betting limits will remain as they are for now. These limits are defined by us and may differ from the limits in the General Terms and Conditions. We do review them frequently so there is always a possibility they may change in the future, or they may stay as they are.

We hope you understand.

In case you have further questions, we will be more than happy to assist you. We are available 24 hours, please review our FAQs section and get in touch

here

for assistance.

Thank you for choosing us as your online gaming site.

Sincerely,
Sharice,

"We hope you understand".

**Optional** · 01-23-22, 03:29 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

Sounds nice, but ain't no way it's gonna work. Lawmakers ain't gonna care that people can't bet as much as they want.

It does work.

Been doing this job for 8 years to know what I am saying.

Lazy, whiney people ALWAYS make that dumb excuse for them to spend half an hour crying on a forum but say its a waste of time to spend 1 minute sending an email.

You have regulation now... don't cry on here about anything if you refuse to take such simple actions that WILL help over the long term.

**Optional** · 01-23-22, 03:31 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

"We hope you understand".

STATE REGULATOR laughing boy.

And go away if you only plan to discourage others with your ignorance. Not helping anyone.

**Optional** · 01-23-22, 03:37 AM

Originally posted by Barrakuda

Dear Player,

Thank you for contacting BetMGM Online Gaming Customer Service.

Good day. After looking into your query we can confirm that your Sports betting limits will remain as they are for now. These limits are defined by us and may differ from the limits in the General Terms and Conditions. We do review them frequently so there is always a possibility they may change in the future, or they may stay as they are.

We hope you understand.

In case you have further questions, we will be more than happy to assist you. We are available 24 hours, please review our FAQs section and get in touch

here

for assistance.

Thank you for choosing us as your online gaming site.

Sincerely,
Sharice,

Great start, now email pgcb@pa.gov and tell them what has happened and that you think it is unfair for their licensee to act that way. Make sure that you mention that you already appealed to theMGM and they just said 'hope you understand', or they will just tell you to do that first.