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  • SClark2000
    SBR Hustler
    • 11-30-22
    • 91

    #176
    Originally posted by ace7550
    It's possible. If a withdrawal and deposit were made from the same btc address on two different bookmaker accounts...it's gonna be tough to convince the investigation team at bookmaker that it's not multi-accounting.
    That's not what they're claiming happened. They're saying that somewhere DOWN THE LINE, the btc that I used to deposit on my account, came from another accounts payout, but not directly. You can link all btc transactions together if you search back far enough. I can understand if I provided the same payout address as another account, or if my deposited funds came directly from the payout of another account, but that's not what they're claiming happened.

    Also why is nobody mentioning them telling me that they report everyone's btc transactions to the IRS? Even if you don't believe it, why would they say that?
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    • SClark2000
      SBR Hustler
      • 11-30-22
      • 91

      #177
      Originally posted by Crusherrr
      Seems like he was probably betting against another Bookmaker/Justbet account. Easy for them to pick up on $5k-$10k deposits and bets.

      Surely was going all in on both accounts judging by the need to re-deposit everyday. They saw that the funds that were being deposited were withdrawn from the suspected accomplice payout that was requested and it confirmed what they needed to withhold the balance.

      OP thought it'd be an easy way to game Bookmaker for tens of thousands quickly in bonus money (and it was) but was too stupid with how he went about doing so and now lost his funds.

      This is just my guess, of course. But seems to be the most likely thing that happened.
      They'll never show actual proof of what you're saying because there is none. It never happened. I still don't even understand what betting "against" another account means or how it would be beneficial for me. I am guilty of trading btc with other gamblers who, if what they're saying is true, recently made a payout and traded me those funds somewhere down the line
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      • ace7550
        SBR MVP
        • 05-08-15
        • 3729

        #178
        Originally posted by SClark2000
        That's not what they're claiming happened. They're saying that somewhere DOWN THE LINE, the btc that I used to deposit on my account, came from another accounts payout, but not directly. You can link all btc transactions together if you search back far enough. I can understand if I provided the same payout address as another account, or if my deposited funds came directly from the payout of another account, but that's not what they're claiming happened.

        Also why is nobody mentioning them telling me that they report everyone's btc transactions to the IRS? Even if you don't believe it, why would they say that?
        If that's what they are saying about the btc transaction than it's total horse shit.
        As far as IRS goes, I think you just pissed off a low level CS person and they were trying to fcuk with you. Bookmaker doesn't take social security numbers. Thus, they couldn't report even if they wanted to.
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        • milwaukee mike
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 08-22-07
          • 26914

          #179
          Originally posted by SClark2000
          They'll never show actual proof of what you're saying because there is none. It never happened. I still don't even understand what betting "against" another account means or how it would be beneficial for me. I am guilty of trading btc with other gamblers who, if what they're saying is true, recently made a payout and traded me those funds somewhere down the line
          deposit 2500 as sclark, take 500 bonus... bet 2500 on spurs +320... deposit 5k at bovada (or where-ever) and take pelicans -330

          spurs lose, you got a 500 bonus (+some betpoints), lost 100 in juice, rinse and repeat... they don't care if you do this with 1 account against other books... but if you also do this as joe schmoe, john doe, and jane doe... and one of jane doe's payouts went to fund your next deposit that looks really bad

          not saying that is what happened, but that is what bookmaker might think happened
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          • SClark2000
            SBR Hustler
            • 11-30-22
            • 91

            #180
            Originally posted by milwaukee mike
            deposit 2500 as sclark, take 500 bonus... bet 2500 on spurs +320... deposit 5k at bovada (or where-ever) and take pelicans -330

            spurs lose, you got a 500 bonus (+some betpoints), lost 100 in juice, rinse and repeat... they don't care if you do this with 1 account against other books... but if you also do this as joe schmoe, john doe, and jane doe... and one of jane doe's payouts went to fund your next deposit that looks really bad

            not saying that is what happened, but that is what bookmaker might think happened
            That makes sense. If they think that's what happend then let me do whatever I can to help show them that's not the case. Ghosting me after I agree to a video call and ignoring me for the following month isn't right
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            • Brooklyn Dick
              SBR MVP
              • 09-12-08
              • 1067

              #181
              Originally posted by ace7550
              If that's what they are saying about the btc transaction than it's total horse shit.
              As far as IRS goes, I think you just pissed off a low level CS person and they were trying to fcuk with you. Bookmaker doesn't take social security numbers. Thus, they couldn't report even if they wanted to.
              Bookmaker is ILLEGAL in the US so I doubt they have any dealings with the IRS.
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388189

                #182
                Your not getting 320/-330 95% of time even with 10 books funded

                More like 320/-380

                Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                deposit 2500 as sclark, take 500 bonus... bet 2500 on spurs +320... deposit 5k at bovada (or where-ever) and take pelicans -330

                spurs lose, you got a 500 bonus (+some betpoints), lost 100 in juice, rinse and repeat... they don't care if you do this with 1 account against other books... but if you also do this as joe schmoe, john doe, and jane doe... and one of jane doe's payouts went to fund your next deposit that looks really bad

                not saying that is what happened, but that is what bookmaker might think happened
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                • pologq
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 10-07-12
                  • 19899

                  #183
                  i cannot tell why they do not want to help you. you answer all our inquiries and appear honest.
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                  • Legions36
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-17-10
                    • 3032

                    #184
                    This thread is funny. Do you even know how big bookmaker is and how long they been around? Put it this way if Bookmaker goes under I don't see who would want to play off shore anymore, I know that would be my que to pick up and leave. Also Bookmaker isn't just going to pick on someone for no reason.
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                    • milwaukee mike
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 08-22-07
                      • 26914

                      #185
                      Originally posted by jjgold
                      Your not getting 320/-330 95% of time even with 10 books funded

                      More like 320/-380
                      yeah OK, someone is really gonna multi-account to take bonuses into 60 cents of juice

                      can you please just stop posting, it's all nonsense all day every day
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                      • ace7550
                        SBR MVP
                        • 05-08-15
                        • 3729

                        #186
                        Originally posted by jjgold
                        Your not getting 320/-330 95% of time even with 10 books funded

                        More like 320/-380
                        Seriously, What kind of rookie shit is this. I do better than 320/-330 every day. It's easily doable if you shop and know what you're doing.
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                        • Orbison
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-07-20
                          • 4692

                          #187
                          Originally posted by SClark2000
                          That makes sense. If they think that's what happend then let me do whatever I can to help show them that's not the case. Ghosting me after I agree to a video call and ignoring me for the following month isn't right
                          is your account still active to make wagers and such?
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                          • bleedblue
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 07-22-08
                            • 323

                            #188
                            I would think a video call could clear this up. 5 min of questioning would probably be enough to convince me one way or the other.
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                            • SClark2000
                              SBR Hustler
                              • 11-30-22
                              • 91

                              #189
                              Originally posted by Orbison
                              is your account still active to make wagers and such?
                              It's still open ro where I can log in and get on live chat. I don't know if it would allow me to place wagers, becaude my balance is at $0. I asked them to cancel the payout so I could play while I'm waiting and they said no
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                              • SClark2000
                                SBR Hustler
                                • 11-30-22
                                • 91

                                #190
                                Originally posted by bleedblue
                                I would think a video call could clear this up. 5 min of questioning would probably be enough to convince me one way or the other.
                                The reason I said no at first was because he asked for it right after the IRS shit. Once he said we won't talk about anything IRS related I responded in less than a minute saying let's do it, then the next day he says actually we don't need it and it's been silent ever since
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                                • Orbison
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-07-20
                                  • 4692

                                  #191
                                  Originally posted by SClark2000
                                  It's still open ro where I can log in and get on live chat. I don't know if it would allow me to place wagers, becaude my balance is at $0. I asked them to cancel the payout so I could play while I'm waiting and they said no
                                  so does it still show a pending payout in your account?
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                                  • SClark2000
                                    SBR Hustler
                                    • 11-30-22
                                    • 91

                                    #192
                                    Originally posted by Orbison
                                    so does it still show a pending payout in your account?
                                    No but they only show pending payouts for the last 10 days. If you go to history it shows -$25k deduction on that day
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                                    • hawkwind
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 04-25-11
                                      • 4036

                                      #193
                                      Bookmaker an A Book there security staff is A+ they can uncover & sniff out Frauds & Scammers with the Best of Them
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                                      • TheMoneyShot
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 02-14-07
                                        • 28672

                                        #194
                                        Long ass thread for no reason. OP was up to some tricks.... Bookmaker pays unless you were cheating. End of story.
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                                        • SClark2000
                                          SBR Hustler
                                          • 11-30-22
                                          • 91

                                          #195
                                          Still no response from BM or BMR
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                                          • SClark2000
                                            SBR Hustler
                                            • 11-30-22
                                            • 91

                                            #196
                                            Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                            Long ass thread for no reason. OP was up to some tricks.... Bookmaker pays unless you were cheating. End of story.
                                            I wasn't up to any tricks and I'm going thru the same exact thing as OP. I've been fully transparent with SBR along this entire journey with every email and every piece of relevant information posted
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                                            • jjgold
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388189

                                              #197
                                              They gave away about 1 million today in free plays
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                                              • milwaukee mike
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 08-22-07
                                                • 26914

                                                #198
                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                They gave away about 1 million today in free plays
                                                how do you know how much they gave away? even if they gave away 100 billion to ukraine like we did, that doesn't make it right

                                                here's just one example of how far they've fallen... totally decent bet on harden rebounds, line moves against them so they just cancel it... if the line moved the other way would they cancel? how can they just arbitrarily cancel bets and everyone thinks it's ok? wasn't a bad line or mistake, made 7 hrs before the game started, easy winner that they just decided to void

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                                                • mjsuax13
                                                  Moderator
                                                  • 03-14-15
                                                  • 24782

                                                  #199
                                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                                  They gave away about 1 million today in free plays
                                                  They included OP’s money in that! Thank you!
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                                                  • SClark2000
                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                    • 11-30-22
                                                    • 91

                                                    #200
                                                    Any update on your end OP? They're still ignoring everg email of mine
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                                                    • hawkwind
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 04-25-11
                                                      • 4036

                                                      #201
                                                      mirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr said the cow, gotcha said sports book securityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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                                                      • mjsuax13
                                                        Moderator
                                                        • 03-14-15
                                                        • 24782

                                                        #202
                                                        Just cashed out $5k this morning. Took 30 minutes. This thread should be moved to the outhouse. Bookmaker absolute A++++ top tier. Thank you.
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                                                        • hehfest
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 09-28-08
                                                          • 7934

                                                          #203
                                                          Originally posted by Abused Gambler
                                                          I'm not black, sweetheart.

                                                          As some other SBR'er would often say when presented with pics: "I want to fukk you".
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                                                          • milwaukee mike
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 08-22-07
                                                            • 26914

                                                            #204
                                                            Originally posted by hehfest
                                                            As some other SBR'er would often say when presented with pics: "I want to fukk you".
                                                            we haven't seen the selfies though?
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                                                            • BlueChip1100
                                                              SBR Hustler
                                                              • 04-02-22
                                                              • 69

                                                              #205
                                                              Originally posted by SClark2000
                                                              Any update on your end OP? They're still ignoring everg email of mine
                                                              How much are you cashing out? How long have you played at BM? I play there 10+ years, not a single problem with betting on sports. Their casino craps have lots of problems. So be careful
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                                                              • Natty68
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 05-11-14
                                                                • 550

                                                                #206
                                                                ^^^^ this. ^^^^^^ class-act book.
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                                                                • pologq
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 10-07-12
                                                                  • 19899

                                                                  #207
                                                                  So the money no longer appears in your account at all?
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                                                                  • 5918mike
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 04-16-14
                                                                    • 1881

                                                                    #208
                                                                    Originally posted by wombat
                                                                    Why do women get all riled up when someone uses the term whore? It’s not even directed at you or women in general. It’s just a term people use when trying to take advantage of bonuses. Men can be whores also.
                                                                    100% correct, I'm a huge bonus whore, it's 85% of my offshore haul monthly and steady income.
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                                                                    • hehfest
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 09-28-08
                                                                      • 7934

                                                                      #209
                                                                      Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                                      we haven't seen the selfies though?
                                                                      This is true. Its like a random wager w/o capping game.
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                                                                      • hehfest
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 09-28-08
                                                                        • 7934

                                                                        #210
                                                                        Originally posted by 5918mike
                                                                        100% correct, I'm a huge bonus whore, it's 85% of my offshore haul monthly and steady income.
                                                                        No books cut down major on bonus offers noticing this trend perhaps?
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