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  • SClark2000
    SBR Hustler
    • 11-30-22
    • 91

    #106
    Originally posted by bleedblue
    Were you trading crypto to settle sports bets in this thread?



    https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/4...t-2-a-1780607/
    No, that's the forum but it was a private group

    Originally posted by pologq
    is there more we don't know? any other flags before this on your account?
    Nothing. I am down well over 100k, pretty much all of my networth. This happened on my first ever payout
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    • RonPaul2008
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 06-08-07
      • 6741

      #107
      Originally posted by lakerboy
      Except delaying live bet acceptance but that's no big deal to you right?

      They have huge limits on USA sports but they are a joke on small European league in soccer.

      Tell me how much you can get down on the Austrian Erste ligue on sides.

      DraftKings will take your house.
      Yeah, but if you consistently kick their ass they will limit you to,... I think it's 10% of the normal limits.
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      • KS1986
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 05-20-17
        • 558

        #108
        Originally posted by SClark2000
        No, that's the forum but it was a private group



        Nothing. I am down well over 100k, pretty much all of my networth. This happened on my first ever payout
        All of your net worth on an offshore book
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        • SClark2000
          SBR Hustler
          • 11-30-22
          • 91

          #109
          Originally posted by KS1986
          All of your net worth on an offshore book
          Yeah man, over time, not all at once.
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          • Ghenghis Kahn
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 01-02-12
            • 19735

            #110
            What are your measurements?
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            • KS1986
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 05-20-17
              • 558

              #111
              Originally posted by SClark2000
              Yeah man, over time, not all at once.
              So your original deposit was your net worth?
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              • Optional
                Administrator
                • 06-10-10
                • 60660

                #112
                Originally posted by SClark2000

                No, that's the forum but it was a private group



                Nothing. I am down well over 100k, pretty much all of my networth. This happened on my first ever payout
                I wonder what they think you are up to to be so concerned about a -100k account.

                Could they be thinking you are manipulating odds for a syndicate, taking 100k in losses to earn them a lot more. Do you bet openers or early most of the time?


                Despite the heckling in here, both posters with problems sound like they are being strangely treated to me still.
                .
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                • PD77
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-11-09
                  • 2381

                  #113
                  Originally posted by Optional
                  I wonder what they think you are up to to be so concerned about a -100k account.

                  Could they be thinking you are manipulating odds for a syndicate, taking 100k in losses to earn them a lot more. Do you bet openers or early most of the time?


                  Despite the heckling in here, both posters with problems sound like they are being strangely treated to me still.
                  Maybe read his chat dialog with the KYC team again. You can’t disrespect the sole person in charge of approving your withdrawal like that and not expect to be toyed with. Just deserts.
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                  • ace7550
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-08-15
                    • 3729

                    #114
                    Originally posted by PD77
                    Maybe read his chat dialog with the KYC team again. You can’t disrespect the sole person in charge of approving your withdrawal like that and not expect to be toyed with. Just deserts.
                    I think I get it now
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                    • KVB
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 05-29-14
                      • 74817

                      #115
                      Originally posted by Optional
                      …I wonder Despite the heckling in here, both posters with problems sound like they are being strangely treated to me still.
                      Agreed, which is why I think there is more to these stories.

                      I don’t have to be right, but it’s hard to think anything else.

                      Like I posted in one of these threads, they’re escalating for a reason.
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                      • goduke
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 02-17-10
                        • 11580

                        #116
                        Theres not more to the story other than that these people are doing something they arent suppose to be doing. Literally took out a payout the next day for 5k from Bookmaker just to check on the validity of this and they paid me in 18 minutes. Lets all move along.
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                        • SClark2000
                          SBR Hustler
                          • 11-30-22
                          • 91

                          #117
                          Originally posted by KS1986

                          So your original deposit was your net worth?
                          At the time of that 9k deposit I had about 6k on BOL and 4k on Bovada. The 4k is still alive, and the 6k got up to 9.5k, and was then lost on Mavericks -102 vs the Bucks. They lost by 1 and went 10/24 on FTs. So now, minus the bit of cash I have in my closet, I have about 5k to my name.

                          Originally posted by PD77

                          Maybe read his chat dialog with the KYC team again. You can’t disrespect the sole person in charge of approving your withdrawal like that and not expect to be toyed with. Just deserts.
                          Perhaps you should read it again. I sent the selfies on the 16th and didn't hear back for 2 days, all while getting on live chat and them telling me to wait. And so because I'm frustrated and angry at the lack of customer service, that gives them right to do what they're doing? Come on man. Yeah perhaps I shouldn't email them while drunk but they've been in the wrong here from jump
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                          • SClark2000
                            SBR Hustler
                            • 11-30-22
                            • 91

                            #118
                            Originally posted by goduke
                            Theres not more to the story other than that these people are doing something they arent suppose to be doing. Literally took out a payout the next day for 5k from Bookmaker just to check on the validity of this and they paid me in 18 minutes. Lets all move along.
                            Well there you have it folks. Since this issue is not personally affecting goduke, it must not be real
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                            • KVB
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 05-29-14
                              • 74817

                              #119
                              Originally posted by SClark2000
                              Well there you have it folks. Since this issue is not personally affecting goduke, it must not be real
                              You did submit a complaint form at BMR correct?
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                              • SClark2000
                                SBR Hustler
                                • 11-30-22
                                • 91

                                #120
                                Originally posted by Optional
                                I wonder what they think you are up to to be so concerned about a -100k account.

                                Could they be thinking you are manipulating odds for a syndicate, taking 100k in losses to earn them a lot more. Do you bet openers or early most of the time?


                                Despite the heckling in here, both posters with problems sound like they are being strangely treated to me still.
                                I was down over 100k overall but I had 55k in my account. If they were really concerned that I might have more than one account because of the supposed address issue, then they would have accepted my agreement to video call and this would have been done with weeks ago. I usually dont bet openers. There's no patterns to when I bet. I'm a degenerate loser, so I bet whenever I need to stick the needle in the vein, which is quite often
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                                • SClark2000
                                  SBR Hustler
                                  • 11-30-22
                                  • 91

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by KVB
                                  You did submit a complaint form at BMR correct?
                                  No what is that? Is that what you quoted for the OP?
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                                  • SClark2000
                                    SBR Hustler
                                    • 11-30-22
                                    • 91

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by KVB
                                    Go here, don't make a thread, submit a legit complaint.



                                    Here is the specific complaint form.



                                    Let us know how it goes.

                                    Your skin color and ethnicity have nothing to do with it but your sex might. As you have already been told, there can be extra scrutiny on female gamblers and there is a legitimate reason in the industry why this occurs. It's not sexism and there is no racism in this process.

                                    Don't make the mistake of invoking it.

                                    As for the Forum, that's your battle, pal, good luck with it.

                                    Wasn't addressed to me so I skimmed over it. Yeah I'll do that. Thanks
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                                    • KVB
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 05-29-14
                                      • 74817

                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by SClark2000
                                      No what is that? Is that what you quoted for the OP?
                                      Yes. There’s a good chance they will be able to get more information about your situation from bookmaker.

                                      Post #29 from your initial thread…

                                      Originally posted by KVB
                                      Cussing at customer services reps will not help, and sadly threats aren't much to them anymore.

                                      Jump through every hoop you can then I'm not sure how much help SBR can provide but this link could get you some offshore mediation if you need it.

                                      Opti just remove this link and we can PM him if I broke a rule, but I have posted this in the past and it's mentioned in a post above...

                                      Offshore mediation similar to SBR in the past, with some of the same mediators at work.

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                                      • goduke
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 02-17-10
                                        • 11580

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by SClark2000
                                        Well there you have it folks. Since this issue is not personally affecting goduke, it must not be real
                                        You literally are telling everyone bookmaker is in financial trouble because of one issue with you but yet when I validate that they are still paying out fast you deny and say their financial trouble is real? Idiotic
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                                        • SClark2000
                                          SBR Hustler
                                          • 11-30-22
                                          • 91

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by goduke
                                          You literally are telling everyone bookmaker is in financial trouble because of one issue with you but yet when I validate that they are still paying out fast you deny and say their financial trouble is real? Idiotic
                                          The only person speaking in absolutes here is you. I said them being in financial trouble is the only thing that makes sense given their actions over the last month. You on the other hand have attacked me and this thread's OP right out the gate, and your reasoning is they can't be in financial trouble since they paid you $5k, so therefore I'm a liar and I'm doing something in not supposed to be doing. Idiotic
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                                          • cincinnatikid513
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 11-23-17
                                            • 45360

                                            #126
                                            dont sweat a dickering
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                                            • goduke
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 02-17-10
                                              • 11580

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by SClark2000
                                              The only person speaking in absolutes here is you. I said them being in financial trouble is the only thing that makes sense given their actions over the last month. You on the other hand have attacked me and this thread's OP right out the gate, and your reasoning is they can't be in financial trouble since they paid you $5k, so therefore I'm a liar and I'm doing something in not supposed to be doing. Idiotic
                                              If they were in financial trouble no one would be getting paid. They aren’t paying you because you’re shady or else we would be seeing ALOT more complaints than two people who surprisingly have a complaint around the same time, post very similar and probably are connected.
                                              If a company is in financial trouble where’s all the reputable posters on this site that use bookmaker complaining about not getting paid. There aren’t any.
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                                              • wombat
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 11-23-20
                                                • 1022

                                                #128
                                                No one in their right minds uses an illegal “escrow” to purchase bitcoin when you have hundreds of legal places to buy crypto. You are opening yourself up to the consequences. Keep in mind, Bookmaker is a company also. They have to watch out for themselves with all of this KYC regulation just like any other company.

                                                Bookmaker is not in financial trouble.
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                                                • Abused Gambler
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 11-25-22
                                                  • 15

                                                  #129
                                                  Hi all you gracious and kind gentlemen. Stopping in to update that Bookmakers again did not respond this weekend to my cordial email to them. Also reminding everyone that I've never traded bitcoin before, so there's nothing linking me to whatever the heck is going on with the other case.
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                                                  • hawkwind
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 04-25-11
                                                    • 4036

                                                    #130
                                                    [ QUOTE=Abused Gambler;31086431]Hi all you gracious and kind gentlemen. Stopping in to update that Bookmakers again did not respond this weekend to my cordial email to them. Also reminding everyone that I've never traded bitcoin before, so there's nothing linking me to whatever the heck is going on with the other case.[/QUOTE]
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                                                    • sourtwist
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 11-10-12
                                                      • 9364

                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                                      Proceed with caution offshore now
                                                      Same books you used to push

                                                      Now beware
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                                                      • sourtwist
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 11-10-12
                                                        • 9364

                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by goduke
                                                        If they were in financial trouble no one would be getting paid. They aren’t paying you because you’re shady or else we would be seeing ALOT more complaints than two people who surprisingly have a complaint around the same time, post very similar and probably are connected.
                                                        If a company is in financial trouble where’s all the reputable posters on this site that use bookmaker complaining about not getting paid. There aren’t any.
                                                        All these years and you’re still a douche

                                                        You might even be right

                                                        But you’ll always be a douche
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                                                        • pologq
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 10-07-12
                                                          • 19899

                                                          #133
                                                          did either of you ever get a payout before these recent issues?
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                                                          • flyingillini
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 12-06-06
                                                            • 41219

                                                            #134
                                                            The funniest part of all of this is reading the message when it says " ***** is you sending it" hahah
                                                            המוסד‎
                                                            המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                                                            • jjgold
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 07-20-05
                                                              • 388189

                                                              #135
                                                              I made some calls

                                                              Stronger than ever
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                                                              • milwaukee mike
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 08-22-07
                                                                • 26914

                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by sourtwist
                                                                Same books you used to push

                                                                Now beware
                                                                used to get paid to push offshore... for years all he did was bash legal sportsbooks

                                                                now the site changes and the script is flipped, that's called a lack of integrity!
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                                                                • jjgold
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                                  • 388189

                                                                  #137
                                                                  I only play offshore dope
                                                                  USA books terrible odds
                                                                  Not getting ripped off daily
                                                                  USA books for suckers other than small
                                                                  Promos
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                                                                  • pologq
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 10-07-12
                                                                    • 19899

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by flyingillini
                                                                    The funniest part of all of this is reading the message when it says " ***** is you sending it" hahah
                                                                    i had to do a quadruple take. even if bookmaker is fcuking with you that is not the way to approach.
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                                                                    • jjgold
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                                      • 388189

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Remember usa books are catered to losing and compulsive gamblers

                                                                      Take promos only

                                                                      I am expert in business
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                                                                      • SClark2000
                                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                                        • 11-30-22
                                                                        • 91

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by KVB

                                                                        You did submit a complaint form at BMR correct?
                                                                        Done

                                                                        Originally posted by pologq
                                                                        did either of you ever get a payout before these recent issues?
                                                                        I had said earlier in the thread that this was my first payout, but upon looking I actually did have 1 prior on Oct 31st for $25k. I'm still down well over $100k on the site overall.

                                                                        Also to everyone saying I'm being shady by trading btc.....there's nothing shady about preferring to have your btc on personal wallets and not buying/selling thru exchanges. That's how btc is supposed to be. I agreed to everything they have asked including the video chat. If they were really concerned that I was part of a group or whatever (still don't know how that's advantageous for me), they'd have done the video call and this would have been over weeks ago
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