Bookmaker in financial trouble? Potential theft in progress

[milwaukee mike]

I only play offshore dope
USA books terrible odds
Not getting ripped off daily
USA books for suckers other than small
Promos

these you? sure i could find 20 more... but i'm a dope for calling you out on blatant lies

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3700934-mgm-not-bad-usa-book.html

10-15-21 05:43 PM

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I am funded there 30% of my roll

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[milwaukee mike]

Done



I had said earlier in the thread that this was my first payout, but upon looking I actually did have 1 prior on Oct 31st for $25k. I'm still down well over $100k on the site overall.

Also to everyone saying I'm being shady by trading btc.....there's nothing shady about preferring to have your btc on personal wallets and not buying/selling thru exchanges. That's how btc is supposed to be. I agreed to everything they have asked including the video chat. If they were really concerned that I was part of a group or whatever (still don't know how that's advantageous for me), they'd have done the video call and this would have been over weeks ago

there are many ways someone could use multiple accounts to their advantage... one might still get bonuses, betpoints, line might not move on bets

really trying to wrap my head around someone with a 100k net worth, and not knowing that they had a 25k payout a couple months ago

[KS1986]

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I had said earlier in the thread that this was my first payout, but upon looking I actually did have 1 prior on Oct 31st for $25k. I'm still down well over $100k on the site overall.

Also to everyone saying I'm being shady by trading btc.....there's nothing shady about preferring to have your btc on personal wallets and not buying/selling thru exchanges. That's how btc is supposed to be. I agreed to everything they have asked including the video chat. If they were really concerned that I was part of a group or whatever (still don't know how that's advantageous for me), they'd have done the video call and this would have been over weeks ago

Video chat is meaningless, only thing that would prove is that you exist and that's not what they are disputing. Like I said before, the issue is you depositing bitcoin that came from another players withdrawal. Figure out a way to prove that you two don't know each other and I don't see why they wouldn't pay you. The hard part is figuring out how to prove this, only you can really figure that part out.

[mjsuax13]

Headline should read:

SBR IN FINANCIAL TROUBLE. ROBBERY TOOK PLACE.

[SClark2000]

there are many ways someone could use multiple accounts to their advantage... one might still get bonuses, betpoints, line might not move on bets

really trying to wrap my head around someone with a 100k net worth, and not knowing that they had a 25k payout a couple months ago

I don't know what any of that even means, but it sounds like you know what you're talking about. I forgot to mention the payout because it happened on the 31st and it just got mixed in with all my btc trades. I noticed it when I was reviewing the emails for the BMR complaint form, so I wanted to mention it here for full transparency

Video chat is meaningless, only thing that would prove is that you exist and that's not what they are disputing. Like I said before, the issue is you depositing bitcoin that came from another players withdrawal. Figure out a way to prove that you two don't know each other and I don't see why they wouldn't pay you. The hard part is figuring out how to prove this, only you can really figure that part out.

How on Earth am I supposed to prove that I don't know someone lol?

[pologq]

Done



I had said earlier in the thread that this was my first payout, but upon looking I actually did have 1 prior on Oct 31st for $25k. I'm still down well over $100k on the site overall.

Also to everyone saying I'm being shady by trading btc.....there's nothing shady about preferring to have your btc on personal wallets and not buying/selling thru exchanges. That's how btc is supposed to be. I agreed to everything they have asked including the video chat. If they were really concerned that I was part of a group or whatever (still don't know how that's advantageous for me), they'd have done the video call and this would have been over weeks ago

now that payout was smooth i assume?

anything change IP wise, account info wise, etc since then? you and a friend using the same IP? anything?

[jjgold]

I talked to the owner

Bookmaker bigger than HSBC Bank

Thread over

[pologq]

who is the owner? ask him for better bonuses for christmas

[hawkwind]

BOOKMAKER SOUND BOOK with PROMPT PAYMENT

[TheMoneyShot]

Did the OP send shots of her in bra and panties yet??

[SClark2000]

now that payout was smooth i assume?

anything change IP wise, account info wise, etc since then? you and a friend using the same IP? anything?

Yes it was smooth. The only thing that changed since then was me going on a decent run to 55k. Nothing else

[SClark2000]

Hey KVB...How long does it normally take to hear back from BMR?

[milwaukee mike]

Yes it was smooth. The only thing that changed since then was me going on a decent run to 55k. Nothing else

does the account they froze payouts on have bonuses and betpoints?

if yes, can you guess how much in bonuses and betpoints have been earned on it?

[SClark2000]

does the account they froze payouts on have bonuses and betpoints?

if yes, can you guess how much in bonuses and betpoints have been earned on it?

My account isn't disabled so I can log in later and check. I'll lyk

[pologq]

Yes it was smooth. The only thing that changed since then was me going on a decent run to 55k. Nothing else

did you get a bonus on that deposit? met rollover? all good with deposit besides what you said already

[SClark2000]

did you get a bonus on that deposit? met rollover? all good with deposit besides what you said already

Once I get home I'll provide my entire deposit history along with any bonuses. But yeah the rollover was clear if I took one. They won't even let you request a payout of its not. If you try it'll say no you still owe rollover

[pologq]

Once I get home I'll provide my entire deposit history along with any bonuses. But yeah the rollover was clear if I took one. They won't even let you request a payout of its not. If you try it'll say no you still owe rollover

that i am familiar with. i meant no issues where they were trying to backtrack and say something didn't count, etc.

[Mike Huntertz]

I have a life, and wouldn't be caught dead in a cesspool like this if I wasn't experiencing being robbed. Look at the way you guys talk on here. I have all the emails and photos ive sent in. This is all documented.

You have a certain endearing quality. You must make friends very easily?
The cesspool denizens in here who have no life will certainly help you out.

[jjgold]

Looks like it was a scam

[SClark2000]

Once I get home I'll provide my entire deposit history along with any bonuses. But yeah the rollover was clear if I took one. They won't even let you request a payout of its not. If you try it'll say no you still owe rollover

#1 Oct 18th: $2.5k deposit, $500 bonus
#2 Oct 18th: $5k deposit, $500 bonus
#3 Oct 21st: $5k deposit, $500 bonus
#4 Oct 23rd: $10k deposit, $1.5k bonus
#5 Oct 23rd: $10k deposit, $1.5k bonus
#6 Oct 25th: $10k deposit, $1.5k bonus

Oct 31st: $25k Payout, $5.8k remaining balance

#7 Nov 5th: $10k deposit, $1.5k bonus
#8 Nov 6th: $5k deposit, $750 bonus
#9 Nov 7th: $9.7k deposit, $1455 bonus
#10 Nov 9th: $10k deposit, $1.5k bonus
#11 Nov 10th: $9.2k deposit, $1.4k bonus
End of deposits.

Nov 15th: Payout request, waiting ever since

Edit: Cant see my betpoints history as they are disabled, but my available betpoints balance is 101,277.63

[SClark2000]

Proceed with caution offshore now

Looks like it was a scam

[Crusherrr]

I've done big btc trades with members of the poker community. Surely there have been instances in which one player traded btc for some other method and then the other person deposited that btc into the same site (different account) where the funds came from.
Example: Person withdraws $5k from Bovada and sends the btc to me for $5k Wynn chips. I then use btc to deposit into Bovada.

The issue is- we don't know the history of the other accounts(s) that Bookmaker are looking at. Was he using other accounts, too? Is the other accounts(s) up $150,000? While this one is down $100,000? We don't know.

Bookmaker has fallen off some, no question there. But this is still very odd. OP did himself no favors with the way he handled himself in emails though.

[Abused Gambler]

Trying for the 20th+ time to get some sort of time frame or update from live chat right now. Any sort of communication at all is the only thing I am looking for. Live chat, email, phone call, literally anything. Nothing but chirping crickets on all fronts. No investigation takes 2 months. Something shady is going on.

[mjsuax13]

Just cashed out $15k. Even wished me a Merry Christmas.

[Abused Gambler]

After waiting on live chat for a half hour and receiving a few apologies for the delay, I was told that I will be contacted as soon as their is an update, and that I should email KYC in the mean time if I have any questions regarding the situation. Maybe it's my spidey senses tingling, but I get the feeling that if I email KYC again, that they may just in fact, ignore me.

They have stolen almost $15 grand from me.

[bleedblue]

#1 Oct 18th: $2.5k deposit, $500 bonus
#2 Oct 18th: $5k deposit, $500 bonus
#3 Oct 21st: $5k deposit, $500 bonus
#4 Oct 23rd: $10k deposit, $1.5k bonus
#5 Oct 23rd: $10k deposit, $1.5k bonus
#6 Oct 25th: $10k deposit, $1.5k bonus

Oct 31st: $25k Payout, $5.8k remaining balance

#7 Nov 5th: $10k deposit, $1.5k bonus
#8 Nov 6th: $5k deposit, $750 bonus
#9 Nov 7th: $9.7k deposit, $1455 bonus
#10 Nov 9th: $10k deposit, $1.5k bonus
#11 Nov 10th: $9.2k deposit, $1.4k bonus
End of deposits.

That is a lot of deposit bonuses in a short period of time. I wonder if the person you are linked to had similar behavior.

[pologq]

it is a lot of bonuses. i assume your bets are pretty big to reload like that and meet rollover? not criticizing. just trying to figure out what they may be seeing.

[SClark2000]

it is a lot of bonuses. i assume your bets are pretty big to reload like that and meet rollover? not criticizing. just trying to figure out what they may be seeing.

Every reload wad after I busted, so there was no rollover

[BlueChip1100]

@Abused Gambler: Are you talking about bookmaker.eu? I played there 10+ years. They pay every time, usually under an hour. Pretty solid to me.

[BlueChip1100]

bookmaker.eu is a huge book. If they are really in financial trouble, you will see tons of complaints flooded on this website.

@JJ Gold & Optional: bitcoin is crashing down to earth. Do you guys have any comments on BM?

[jjgold]

Bookmaker fine

Massive credit business

[cincinnatikid513]

saloon

[ace7550]

@Sclark2000
I just withdrew 5 digits from bookmaker and it was pending in my account in 10 minutes. Others have reported payouts too. The problem is specifically with your account and I'm fairly confident it's because you withdrew to a btc address that had been used by another account. You seem like a good guy and you've answered everyone's questions. I do hope you get paid and that BMR can help you. Bookmaker can be painfully slow sometimes when it comes to investigations but they aren't thieves. If you are operating honestly I do think you will be paid in the end.
My one piece of advice is that you get a lot more with honey than you do with vinegar. As aggravating as their CS might be at times, try and always be polite.
Good luck. Let us know how it goes.

[Crusherrr]

Seems like he was probably betting against another Bookmaker/Justbet account. Easy for them to pick up on $5k-$10k deposits and bets.

Surely was going all in on both accounts judging by the need to re-deposit everyday. They saw that the funds that were being deposited were withdrawn from the suspected accomplice payout that was requested and it confirmed what they needed to withhold the balance.

OP thought it'd be an easy way to game Bookmaker for tens of thousands quickly in bonus money (and it was) but was too stupid with how he went about doing so and now lost his funds.

This is just my guess, of course. But seems to be the most likely thing that happened.

[ace7550]

Seems like he was probably betting against another Bookmaker/Justbet account. Easy for them to pick up on $5k-$10k deposits and bets.

Surely was going all in on both accounts judging by the need to re-deposit everyday. They saw that the funds that were being deposited were withdrawn from the suspected accomplice payout that was requested and it confirmed what they needed to withhold the balance.

OP thought it'd be an easy way to game Bookmaker for tens of thousands quickly in bonus money (and it was) but was too stupid with how he went about doing so and now lost his funds.

This is just my guess, of course. But seems to be the most likely thing that happened.

It's possible. If a withdrawal and deposit were made from the same btc address on two different bookmaker accounts...it's gonna be tough to convince the investigation team at bookmaker that it's not multi-accounting.