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  • Mike78
    SBR Hustler
    • 08-16-20
    • 97

    #1
    Anybody Home at Bet105?
    I've been a Bet105 customers for three years. I haven't needed to contact them that much. But when I've tried, I've been able to talk to someone reasonably quickly through live chat.

    I had a minor issue with my account a couple of days ago. I tried contacting live chat about it. After being on hold for 30+ minutes waiting to talk to someone, I gave up. I tried again the next day. The same thing happened.

    So, I thought I'd try emailing them. Haven't received a response in a couple of days.

    Anybody else having this issue with them?

    I know that last year they began limiting a bunch of people (including myself), and they closed the door to new customers. Are they scaling back their operations, including staffing?

    I like this book. They have reduced juice, and offer a lot of different types of bets that I can't find elsewhere. But the lack of connectivity/availability is concerning to me.

    I use several other books. I can always get a hold of someone quickly through live chat or email or phone. So, to me this is a bad look at Bet105.
  • KVB
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 05-29-14
    • 74817

    #2
    I'm on LIVE chat with a guy named "Value 2" right now.

    I didn't wait any time at all.

    I'm asking basic questions and they are answering. Seems like they are there.
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    • ArAnah
      SBR Rookie
      • 04-22-23
      • 49

      #3
      how can I get this sportsbook? every try for register there was finished without success...But I want play there... who can help me ? any idea?
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      • KVB
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 05-29-14
        • 74817

        #4
        Originally posted by ArAnah
        how can I get this sportsbook? every try for register there was finished without success...But I want play there... who can help me ? any idea?
        You would have had to have had an account at Heritage in 2020, summer and fall, whey they opened 105 and migrated (for lack of a better term) accounts.

        At Heritage you had a choice of a regular account that gets bonuses or a lowvig account. Only players that chose the lowvig account option were granted accounts at bet105.

        If you were at Heritage then, in the lowvig option, then there is an account open and waiting for you at bet105. Just send 105 support your associated Heritage email and they will find it for you.

        If you weren't at Heritage you won't be able to play at Bet105 and that is not likely to change anytime in the near future.

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        • Mike78
          SBR Hustler
          • 08-16-20
          • 97

          #5
          Thanks, KVB. I must just be trying to reach them at the wrong times. Or maybe they just like you better than me!
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          • Optional
            Administrator
            • 06-10-10
            • 60643

            #6
            Originally posted by ArAnah
            how can I get this sportsbook? every try for register there was finished without success...But I want play there... who can help me ? any idea?
            They only accepted Nth American customers when open for new accounts. But they are not taking new accounts right now for anyone.
            .
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            • KVB
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 05-29-14
              • 74817

              #7
              Originally posted by Optional
              They only accepted Nth American customers when open for new accounts. But they are not taking new accounts right now for anyone.
              They keep telling me that they have no plans to take new accounts in the future.

              Not sure why.
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              • Ksherm
                SBR MVP
                • 07-13-10
                • 1059

                #8
                Do they actually pay?
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                • ArAnah
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 04-22-23
                  • 49

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ksherm
                  Do they actually pay?
                  I think yes, but that is good question here... really I can't understand, why any bookies closing registration...whuuuh!
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                  • KVB
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 05-29-14
                    • 74817

                    #10
                    Yes, they pay.

                    Other than not accepting new accounts, the biggest problem is the risk management and limiting. As time has gone on risk management has got more aggressive. They limit accounts faster and faster as the accounts come in to play.

                    They’re basically washing their accounts but not allowing new ones to come in. They’re not allowing syndicates and others to “rebuy” with another new account while limiting all the successful ones currently active. They can’t stop the flow of rule breaking new accounts so they just turn the hose off.

                    I’m pretty sure I know why this is happening and probably have a part in it, lol, going back nearly 4 years, it’s become so bad that they may see washing all the existing accounts without letting any new ones come in as a way to “reset” the active customer base. The pros and market leaders won’t have this as an out while their customer base is exactly who they want it to be.

                    Sort of brilliant, but I would’ve found a better way in the bookmaking of it all.

                    These guys basically are not taking on any new risk, making sure they limit those that are risk while absorbing everybody else’s risk, as they aren’t as risky to 105.

                    Anybody reading SBR knows I’ve been involved in that 105 discussions, trying to help people get accounts, find their migrated account, or get info on when they will accept new accounts. I reached out to them on behalf of SBR questions many times, like I did in this thread.

                    For now, it appears, we ran this out down, and who knows if it’ll open back up again to everyone else.

                    Lowvig can attract a certain type of client, and 105 has been trying to navigate that.

                    Which pretty much shoots holes in all the SBR posters and those ignorant threads and posts trying to claim nobody can win.

                    At a risk of condoning violation of terms, I’m going to say that a bettor should have as many outs as they can and their outs should also have outs…something we shouldn’t get into here, but I hint at in a video.

                    Bet 105 knows all about this game.
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                    • KVB
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 05-29-14
                      • 74817

                      #11
                      I’ve been told this kind of discussion is no longer helpful at SBR, and they should be taken to the site that opened when SBR was bought.

                      There are legal issues with SBR even dealing with offshore books, they can’t even show offshore odds as a US based/facing organization.

                      It’s my understanding that SBR will not help anybody with offshore issues, but I don’t mind helping in threads like this until they tell me not to, except for talking much about circumventing rules. After all, this thread is just a discussion.

                      I also know Optional will reach out to other contacts and do what he can to help individual posters, but that’s not really from an organizational standpoint, Opti has been around a long time and knows a shit ton of people and processes. Thankfully he can draw on them without getting too much shit from SBR.

                      Maybe a representative from SBR can come in and give out the complaint sheet link or info to the site it does help with offshore, given SBR’s previous reputation of doing all that.

                      When it comes to 105, all potential bettors can do is wait to see if they will take new customers, which they have no plans of doing anytime soon from what I can gather, but know that they will pay current eligible customers.
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                      • ArAnah
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 04-22-23
                        • 49

                        #12
                        Originally posted by KVB
                        Anybody reading SBR knows I’ve been involved in that 105 discussions, trying to help people get accounts, find their migrated account, or get info on when they will accept new accounts. I reached out to them on behalf of SBR questions many times, like I did in this thread.


                        ... but I hint at in a video.

                        Bet 105 knows all about this game.
                        hi mate, could you please tell me about accounts in my PM? really I am here can't register any account and now have a big problems with that...
                        I see that my Pm would be work, strange, but I can't write a PM to anybody, its really strange, because I wrote 40 posts on the forum
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                        • 70'sMan
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 02-12-12
                          • 744

                          #13
                          First nothing but kudos to b105 for paying. I have been paid in a timely manor without objection and without any issues. That is rare as even the best paying books tend to get a bit squirrely at times. So absolutely nothing but respect for the owners on my part.

                          Unfortunately they knocked me down to $25 max from $100 a couple of weeks ago and that pretty much ends me there. It would seem to me that they need to do a better job profiling rather than just flat limiting. I am not certain their blanket culling of accounts is a good long term strategy. I would think that with no in flow of new accounts their business will just attrite to zero.

                          I never really understood the hard low limits on the big market sports. I would have been perfectly happy to give them more action on major markets to offset my bets in the smaller markets. This would have given them a much better opportunity to take my money versus the alternative.

                          Regardless B105 is/was my favorite book and is a great product. Hopefully they can figure out a good long-term strategy.
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                          • BOWLSZN
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 12-22-17
                            • 196

                            #14
                            Ive a Heritage account but it was after 2020 so i dought they open a 105 for me
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                            • KVB
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 05-29-14
                              • 74817

                              #15
                              Originally posted by 70'sMan
                              First nothing but kudos to b105 for paying. I have been paid in a timely manor without objection and without any issues. That is rare as even the best paying books tend to get a bit squirrely at times. So absolutely nothing but respect for the owners on my part.

                              Unfortunately they knocked me down to $25 max from $100 a couple of weeks ago and that pretty much ends me there. It would seem to me that they need to do a better job profiling rather than just flat limiting. I am not certain their blanket culling of accounts is a good long term strategy. I would think that with no in flow of new accounts their business will just attrite to zero.

                              I never really understood the hard low limits on the big market sports. I would have been perfectly happy to give them more action on major markets to offset my bets in the smaller markets. This would have given them a much better opportunity to take my money versus the alternative.

                              Regardless B105 is/was my favorite book and is a great product. Hopefully they can figure out a good long-term strategy.
                              Yeah, many of us are watching closely. They started out with a good thing but the greedy side of players may have tried to take advantage.

                              Let's see what happens in the future, I am on the same page as you here.
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                              • KVB
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 05-29-14
                                • 74817

                                #16
                                Originally posted by ArAnah
                                hi mate, could you please tell me about accounts in my PM? really I am here can't register any account and now have a big problems with that...
                                I see that my Pm would be work, strange, but I can't write a PM to anybody, its really strange, because I wrote 40 posts on the forum
                                Not sure about the situation with your PMs, maybe a moderator can fill you in there.

                                As far as accounts at Bet105, there isn't much more for me to tell than what I already posted in this thread.

                                They simply aren't taking new customers right now. Unless you were a part of Heritage low vig in 2020, there isn't much anyone can do.

                                That's it, sadly.
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                                • Frank
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 10-13-07
                                  • 918

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by 70'sMan
                                  First nothing but kudos to b105 for paying. I have been paid in a timely manor without objection and without any issues. That is rare as even the best paying books tend to get a bit squirrely at times. So absolutely nothing but respect for the owners on my part.

                                  Unfortunately they knocked me down to $25 max from $100 a couple of weeks ago and that pretty much ends me there. It would seem to me that they need to do a better job profiling rather than just flat limiting. I am not certain their blanket culling of accounts is a good long term strategy. I would think that with no in flow of new accounts their business will just attrite to zero.

                                  I never really understood the hard low limits on the big market sports. I would have been perfectly happy to give them more action on major markets to offset my bets in the smaller markets. This would have given them a much better opportunity to take my money versus the alternative.

                                  Regardless B105 is/was my favorite book and is a great product. Hopefully they can figure out a good long-term strategy.
                                  It's one thing to blanket limit customers to $100, but to limit to $25?

                                  A book that can't take $100 bets on major markets probably shouldn't call themselves a bookmaker.

                                  And kudos to paying?

                                  Isn't that what should be expected to happen?
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                                  • 70'sMan
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 02-12-12
                                    • 744

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Frank
                                    It's one thing to blanket limit customers to $100, but to limit to $25?

                                    A book that can't take $100 bets on major markets probably shouldn't call themselves a bookmaker.

                                    And kudos to paying?

                                    Isn't that what should be expected to happen?
                                    Agree but the kudos were for not delaying payment for: missed withdrawal verification phone calls that never show on my phone call log, routine account review, kyc where documents are either not clear enough or not received, account investigation, random review of documents, explanation of IP login history and so on.

                                    I will add that I do not multi account so I have always ended up being paid everywhere except the scam book Malubit. However it is not always as easy as sending in a request and getting paid.
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                                    • Mike78
                                      SBR Hustler
                                      • 08-16-20
                                      • 97

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by 70'sMan
                                      First nothing but kudos to b105 for paying. I have been paid in a timely manor without objection and without any issues. That is rare as even the best paying books tend to get a bit squirrely at times. So absolutely nothing but respect for the owners on my part.

                                      Unfortunately they knocked me down to $25 max from $100 a couple of weeks ago and that pretty much ends me there. It would seem to me that they need to do a better job profiling rather than just flat limiting. I am not certain their blanket culling of accounts is a good long term strategy. I would think that with no in flow of new accounts their business will just attrite to zero.

                                      I never really understood the hard low limits on the big market sports. I would have been perfectly happy to give them more action on major markets to offset my bets in the smaller markets. This would have given them a much better opportunity to take my money versus the alternative.

                                      Regardless B105 is/was my favorite book and is a great product. Hopefully they can figure out a good long-term strategy.
                                      Sorry to hear you got limited to $25. That sucks!

                                      As far as I can tell, I've been limited to $100 per GAME, not per bet. So, if I wanted to place a $100 bet on a side and another on the total, I couldn't do it. Both bets combined couldn't total over $100. And, for player props, I'm limited to $50 max, period.

                                      It's disappointing because I like this book, and haven't had any major issues with them. But, as KVB said, we're all just sitting here from afar trying to figure out what's their next move.
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