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  • Waterstpub87
    SBR MVP
    • 09-09-09
    • 4102

    #1
    Caesars destroys the loyalty program
    Made a change a few days ago. Now, 10% of bet is loyalty points. Used to be close to 20%, depending on what the odds were.

    Lame.
  • stevex
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 05-02-10
    • 5122

    #2
    Does it matter what tier you’re at?
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    • Waterstpub87
      SBR MVP
      • 09-09-09
      • 4102

      #3
      Originally posted by stevex
      Does it matter what tier you’re at?

      Enjoyed the free hotel room in Atlantis. Was hoping for a suite next time.
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      • GTRandy
        SBR Rookie
        • 07-19-20
        • 17

        #4
        They completely butchered the rewards program to where you basically get nothing now even if you're a big bettor.
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        • sjm5122
          SBR MVP
          • 09-22-08
          • 4213

          #5
          You basically have to find their 5x-10x tier credit mult days at a physical casino location to make any significant progress.

          I bet a ton on their sportsbook app and that only gets me to Diamond Elite.
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          • d2bets
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 08-10-05
            • 39990

            #6
            Yeah. Diamond Elite from last year (they refused 7*). I'm finally using the Atlantis Bahamas thing this year in October. My last chance. Anyone ever done this?
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            • sjm5122
              SBR MVP
              • 09-22-08
              • 4213

              #7
              Originally posted by d2bets
              Yeah. Diamond Elite from last year (they refused 7*). I'm finally using the Atlantis Bahamas thing this year in October. My last chance. Anyone ever done this?
              I have not. Made seven stars but haven’t used anything except the vegas trip. How easy was the bahamas thing to book?
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              • d2bets
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 08-10-05
                • 39990

                #8
                Originally posted by sjm5122
                I have not. Made seven stars but haven’t used anything except the vegas trip. How easy was the bahamas thing to book?
                Super easy. Took 10 minutes. And really it's no obligation, they didn't even take my CC. And it says I can cancel with no obligation or charge > 7 days in advance. Totally free (I looked up cost would have been ~ $4k). Seven Stars has even more perks on that, I think.
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                • DrunkHorseplayer
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 05-15-10
                  • 7719

                  #9
                  Casinos have been destroying loyalty programs for 25 years, the rewards now are nothing compared to the late 90's. I still remember betting horses at Caesars in 2005 or 2006 and being told that horse rewards have gone from 3% to 1.25%.
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                  • pologq
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 10-07-12
                    • 19899

                    #10
                    all it takes is a good loyalty program and a lot of sports bettors would play their domestically. it is amazing how no one realize this. betrivers went backwards, fanduel has none, now caesars cut it. such a shame.
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                    • biggie12
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 12-30-05
                      • 13781

                      #11
                      Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
                      Casinos have been destroying loyalty programs for 25 years, the rewards now are nothing compared to the late 90's. I still remember betting horses at Caesars in 2005 or 2006 and being told that horse rewards have gone from 3% to 1.25%.
                      Scam when the takeout is the same or worse in some places over the years.......

                      Prob down to .1% now...
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                      • Pragmatic
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 06-20-24
                        • 38

                        #12
                        "all it takes is a good loyalty program and a lot of sports bettors would play their domestically. it is amazing how no one realize this. betrivers went backwards, fanduel has none, now caesars cut it. such a shame."

                        Maybe. When Caesars launched the sportsbook app, we can assume they were expecting to "pull" new players into their physical locations. Hey, you just bet $400 in Maryland, so now we'll get you to Vegas (where you'll dump $1k in the slots).

                        Clearly, Caesars wasn't seeing enough upside/crossover from the sportsbook people. So they neutered the Rewards program.

                        But still, if you visit Vegas/AC anyways, Caesars still has one of the best Rewards programs out there. It isn't too difficult to reach the 5k/10k/15k levels, and you can use those rooms on weekends.
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                        • DrunkHorseplayer
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 05-15-10
                          • 7719

                          #13
                          Go somewhere else shill.
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                          • Pragmatic
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 06-20-24
                            • 38

                            #14
                            Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
                            Go somewhere else shill.
                            I acknowledged that Caesars neutered their Rewards program, but I'm a shill? Interesting take.

                            But please, let us know what USA books currently have a better Rewards program. If you're a decent/competent player, you're lucky to get $10 bet & get promotions.
                            Last edited by Pragmatic; 07-04-24, 12:00 PM.
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                            • INVEGA MAN
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 01-30-08
                              • 6791

                              #15
                              Didnt want to hear this!! Heading to Vegas next month!!
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                              • Reload
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 03-23-08
                                • 12244

                                #16
                                Originally posted by pologq
                                all it takes is a good loyalty program and a lot of sports bettors would play their domestically. it is amazing how no one realize this. betrivers went backwards, fanduel has none, now caesars cut it. such a shame.
                                Yeah I can’t see how FanDuel is as super competitive as they are without a loyalty program. There are VIP account managers that reach out and occasional offers, but no tiers or steady rewards back. It’s even the same with their casino. You could bet $1600 a hand on blackjack for three days straight and get absolutely nothing for it.
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                                • 2Sweeet
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-31-22
                                  • 1122

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Reload
                                  Yeah I can’t see how FanDuel is as super competitive as they are without a loyalty program. There are VIP account managers that reach out and occasional offers, but no tiers or steady rewards back. It’s even the same with their casino. You could bet $1600 a hand on blackjack for three days straight and get absolutely nothing for it.
                                  U need to get ahold of Ethan Hawk. LOL. FD is the bottom of the barrel for VIP's and it should be exposed. LOL
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                                  • Eddy Munny
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 08-13-13
                                    • 15739

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
                                    Casinos have been destroying loyalty programs for 25 years, the rewards now are nothing compared to the late 90's. I still remember betting horses at Caesars in 2005 or 2006 and being told that horse rewards have gone from 3% to 1.25%.
                                    More lamenting from this oldhead who blew his retirement fund and doesn't like the looks of things going forward.

                                    Take the beagle for a walk or learn pinochle... We can only endure so much bitching.
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                                    • DrunkHorseplayer
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 05-15-10
                                      • 7719

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                                      Well you're a degenerate that does nothing but bitch, so I'm simply throwing out new hobby ideas in your general direction. Don't hate, appreciate. I mean I know you're an avid horse shagger and all, but that's not considered a legitimate hobby in first world countries. Capeesh?
                                      Your mama capeeshes me, now go to bed son.
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                                      • scottgodson1985
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 11-17-12
                                        • 347

                                        #20
                                        Czr had great loyalty before this bs, blew that up now limiting players left and right, the only place u can get semi decent limits onshore is fd and those aren't great either. dk quick limit, rivers shitty odds on everything and still limits, czr's was great but now limits too wtf back too offshore, the only good place offshore is cris and they don't have a great mix of markets its side-total or go penetrate yourself.
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                                        • BradytheK9
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 09-07-23
                                          • 188

                                          #21
                                          Checked out Ceasars when MD had first allowed sports betting yr or 2 ago & preferred DK since they had freeplay contests at the time.
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                                          • lesterdymond
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 07-25-11
                                            • 2356

                                            #22
                                            Sports betting was more enjoyable before the wave of big books became legal. All they seem to offer is same game parlay bonuses. All of them. Plus the security breeches from MGM & Ceasars, they offered nothing to the players.
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                                            • lesterdymond
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 07-25-11
                                              • 2356

                                              #23
                                              Every home page has built in loser parlays to click for the newbies.

                                              most of us on here smarter then that I hope
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                                              • Igor_1965
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 04-18-15
                                                • 2628

                                                #24
                                                Not destroyed. Tweaked.

                                                Tweaked with the aim of increasing profitability and shareholder satisfaction, while maintaining top of the industry standard of enjoyment for the player.
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                                                • BradytheK9
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 09-07-23
                                                  • 188

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Igor_1965
                                                  Not destroyed. Tweaked.

                                                  Tweaked with the aim of increasing profitability and shareholder satisfaction, while maintaining top of the industry standard of enjoyment for the player.
                                                  Caesars twerking few things
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                                                  • mjsuax13
                                                    Moderator
                                                    • 03-14-15
                                                    • 24781

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by d2bets
                                                    Super easy. Took 10 minutes. And really it's no obligation, they didn't even take my CC. And it says I can cancel with no obligation or charge > 7 days in advance. Totally free (I looked up cost would have been ~ $4k). Seven Stars has even more perks on that, I think.
                                                    Wow. Which part of ATLANTIS? Really nice place.
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                                                    • Debi
                                                      Administrator
                                                      • 06-14-23
                                                      • 115

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by d2bets
                                                      Super easy. Took 10 minutes. And really it's no obligation, they didn't even take my CC. And it says I can cancel with no obligation or charge > 7 days in advance. Totally free (I looked up cost would have been ~ $4k). Seven Stars has even more perks on that, I think.
                                                      Did you take this trip yet? I have never used mine so anxious to hear how it went.
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                                                      • Shifty
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 08-10-08
                                                        • 558

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Denise_D
                                                        Did you take this trip yet? I have never used mine so anxious to hear how it went.
                                                        Took the Atlantic vacation last year. Had a great time. Room was totally comped except for some small fees. Restaurants at the resort are expensive. That was the biggest expense we incurred.
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                                                        • Waterstpub87
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-09-09
                                                          • 4102

                                                          #29
                                                          I went a couple years ago. Was really good. The water park is nice. The hotel is kind of old, its been around awhile. Echoing that the food was expensive. Won enough playing dice to cover that for the week. They do not require you to gamble a certain amount, which is nice.

                                                          We like the Chinese place and Carmines. I would skip the steak house, it was pretty disappointing.
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                                                          • d2bets
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 08-10-05
                                                            • 39990

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by mjsuax13
                                                            Wow. Which part of ATLANTIS? Really nice place.
                                                            The Cove Deluxe Suite. Going mid-October. Can't wait!
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                                                            • d2bets
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 08-10-05
                                                              • 39990

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Waterstpub87
                                                              I went a couple years ago. Was really good. The water park is nice. The hotel is kind of old, its been around awhile. Echoing that the food was expensive. Won enough playing dice to cover that for the week. They do not require you to gamble a certain amount, which is nice.

                                                              We like the Chinese place and Carmines. I would skip the steak house, it was pretty disappointing.
                                                              They told me they required 4 hours play. Total (over 5 days), not per day. No big deal.

                                                              Room cost for 5 days would be like $4k, so even if the food is expensive it's all worthwhile.

                                                              My new girlfriend is impressed. Good timing for me (getting divorced haha).
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                                                              • Waterstpub87
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 09-09-09
                                                                • 4102

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by d2bets
                                                                They told me they required 4 hours play. Total (over 5 days), not per day. No big deal.

                                                                Room cost for 5 days would be like $4k, so even if the food is expensive it's all worthwhile.

                                                                My new girlfriend is impressed. Good timing for me (getting divorced haha).
                                                                Enjoy man. It should be good that time of the year.
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                                                                • d2bets
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                                  • 39990

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Waterstpub87
                                                                  Enjoy man. It should be good that time of the year.
                                                                  Leaving tomorrow! I'll report back in a week.
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                                                                  • Steelers05
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 12-12-24
                                                                    • 220

                                                                    #34
                                                                    The promos at the US books absolutely blow anymore, no deposit bonuses and nowadays you get a 30 percent parlay boost with a max $10 wager…absolute dogshit.
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                                                                    • DJK
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                                      • 2419

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by d2bets
                                                                      Leaving tomorrow! I'll report back in a week.
                                                                      So, whatever happened in Atlantis?

                                                                      Since you didn't report back what happened, my guess is that you lost and possibly big? I hope not.
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