I'm in the US now and I don't understand why so many US customers choose shitty sites

**Thefix13** · 11-03-23, 03:23 PM

You are the one not thinking outside the box if you can't understand the appeal

**LongBall52** · 11-03-23, 04:03 PM

1 Stiff for a SERIOUS amount and they won't play there again. But it all depends on one's defination of "serious".

**DwightShrute** · 11-03-23, 04:51 PM

There are many reasons to bet offshore. The key is ... a reputable book.

First of all, you don't have to pay taxes on your winnings. That should be enough.

You deposit and lose, they keep your money. If you win, they pay. Imagine that? These books payout millions of dollars every year. You rarely hear about it because they pay their players.

The ones you mostly hear about are the lower rated books. Then they act all surprised when they don't get the same service. Why are their ratings lower? Hmmm.

**wombat** · 11-03-23, 05:01 PM

You are behind the times. Some of the big offshore books have been using crypto for years now, way ahead of the curve. You don’t need to use an agent through Pinnacle…. who in their right mind would do that lol.Just stick with two of the main offshore books like Bookmaker or Betonline and you’ll be fine.

Bookmaker and BOL have been around for over 20 years and known to pay out 100k without a flinch so I never understood why people go to sites like Mybookie.

**dimaggio8** · 11-03-23, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by wombat

You are behind the times. Some of the big offshore books have been using crypto for years now, way ahead of the curve. You don’t need to use an agent through Pinnacle…. who in their right mind would do that lol.Just stick with two of the main offshore books like Bookmaker or Betonline and you’ll be fine.

Bookmaker and BOL have been around for over 20 years and known to pay out 100k without a flinch so I never understood why people go to sites like Mybookie.

As you and many know, players get caught up in these outrageous bonuses. Also, google them before using them to check to see if there are payout issues. Some have to learn the hard way. Like you said, stick with bookmaker, betonline family, heritage and a few others.

**garyking** · 11-03-23, 11:30 PM

I haven't joined Mybookie, but have probably joined at least 50 over the years. The lower ranked ones I've joined were only for the bonuses and I expect that's why most people do it.
I've been as lucky as shit, and have had accounts at ones that have collapsed, but have never had money in them at the time.
Probably 20 years doing this, but have never not been paid. I'm sure that luck will eventually run out. By the way, I'm Canadian, so my list of offshore books is probably more extensive than it would be there. But i really get annoyed when i see the list of USA bonuses on this site. Most like Fanduel etc are unaccessible to Canadians outside Ontario.

**jedihyoju** · 11-04-23, 04:36 AM

I always take out most of the offshore money right before superbowl
and bet superbowl in Vegas.

**Da Manster!** · 11-04-23, 05:54 AM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

There are many reasons to bet offshore. The key is ... a reputable book.

First of all, you don't have to pay taxes on your winnings. That should be enough.

You deposit and lose, they keep your money. If you win, they pay. Imagine that? These books payout millions of dollars every year. You rarely hear about it because they pay their players.

The ones you mostly hear about are the lower rated books. Then they act all surprised when they don't get the same service. Why are their ratings lower? Hmmm.

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**Da Manster!** · 11-04-23, 05:56 AM

Originally posted by wombat

You are behind the times. Some of the big offshore books have been using crypto for years now, way ahead of the curve. You don’t need to use an agent through Pinnacle…. who in their right mind would do that lol.Just stick with two of the main offshore books like Bookmaker or Betonline and you’ll be fine.

Bookmaker and BOL have been around for over 20 years and known to pay out 100k without a flinch so I never understood why people go to sites like Mybookie.

and you can add Heritage to that list as well! One of the best A+ offshore books out there!

**wombat** · 11-04-23, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by Da Manster!

and you can add Heritage to that list as well! One of the best A+ offshore books out there!

Heritage is a good book but I don’t like how they keep lowering their payout limits. It used to be 10k then they lowered it to 5K and now it’s 3k per day. Good book for recreational players playing only couple hundred bucks a game.

**YoshisRage** · 01-07-25, 02:29 PM

Replying to a old thread. Here is the issue you aren't addressing, you guys say just say use offshore book because they don't report any winnings to IRS but how do you actually get the money from the book into your hands without it triggering or possibly looking fishy. Obviously if you take a crypto payout and lets say $5000 hits your wallet then you cash out to bank that's cool, but now the problem is that just triggers or stores information in Coinbase they you made a massive withdrawal. You guys know that selling, converting, withdrawing crypto is a taxable event. Maybe the IRS will never ever find out all the winnings you made on the offshore book because they don't report it, but the moment it comes into your bank account through a echeck , *************** or you cashing out to your bitcoin wallet and then transferring to your bank that's where all the tax issues arise. If IRS sees all this random money +3000, +9000 enter your crypto wallet or your bank even if its in a slow methodical way they still get can see it and you can't just say a friend gave it lol ( they will want to know what friend).

**jedihyoju** · 01-07-25, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by YoshisRage

Replying to a old thread. Here is the issue you aren't addressing, you guys say just say use offshore book because they don't report any winnings to IRS but how do you actually get the money from the book into your hands without it triggering or possibly looking fishy. Obviously if you take a crypto payout and lets say $5000 hits your wallet then you cash out to bank that's cool, but now the problem is that just triggers or stores information in Coinbase they you made a massive withdrawal. You guys know that selling, converting, withdrawing crypto is a taxable event. Maybe the IRS will never ever find out all the winnings you made on the offshore book because they don't report it, but the moment it comes into your bank account through a echeck , *************** or you cashing out to your bitcoin wallet and then transferring to your bank that's where all the tax issues arise. If IRS sees all this random money +3000, +9000 enter your crypto wallet or your bank even if its in a slow methodical way they still get can see it and you can't just say a friend gave it lol ( they will want to know what friend).

You have a valid point , however unless its multi million or at least million, IRS don't really care and they don't bother to waste resource to it.
They are after mobs laundering dirty money using crypto which is billions every year, not average joe's offshore 1k, 2k even 50k.
They could if you get into some kinda trouble with IRS and they can look into it, and you def have to explain it for sure however if you
stay lowkey and pay your income taxes you are safe.

**BOWLSZN** · 01-07-25, 06:45 PM

Get me an Agent Arie1985 none take US player anymore #RIPsportoddesy

**2Sweeet** · 01-07-25, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by BOWLSZN

Get me an Agent Arie1985 none take US player anymore #RIPsportoddesy

LOL, I have 6 agents no paper trails and all pay. I don't understand what kind of Agent you're referring to but if you don't have reliable agents your either doing this for fun or are doing things all wrong.

**Headsterx** · 01-07-25, 09:30 PM

Ok, I have to ask but in the hell is an agent?

**2Sweeet** · 01-08-25, 02:19 AM

Originally posted by Headsterx

Ok, I have to ask but in the hell is an agent?

LOL, I'll give you one hint you don't find them on Google, Twitter, Instagram, or TIKTOK. Headsterex after the wrestling thread last night, I'll give you a pass. I'd guess the Over/Under on your age is 28.5 but I'm not a line maker. Enjoy the Royal Rumble.

**2Sweeet** · 01-08-25, 02:20 AM

I just bet max on the Under btw

**Optional** · 01-08-25, 03:07 AM

Originally posted by Headsterx

Ok, I have to ask but in the hell is an agent?

Generally people are referring to a middle man with the ability to get your bets down at a number of shops under their accounts. Like when people talk about Asian brokers, they often call them agents.

**Pragmatic** · 01-09-25, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

There are many reasons to bet offshore. The key is ... a reputable book.

First of all, you don't have to pay taxes on your winnings. That should be enough.

As the other poster said, "not paying taxes" is somewhat overrated as a benefit of Offshore. Both methods (USA vs Offshore) are likely to leave some sort of paper/digital trail.

There is a big difference between A) "you don't have to pay taxes on your winnings" and B) "I'm supposed to report & pay, but who cares."

And we all know, the vast majority of gamblers don't report anything. Whether they play Offshore, DraftKings, or an alley behind the local Chinese restaurant.

**2Sweeet** · 01-10-25, 02:56 AM

Forget all the taxes! If you r a winning Gambler you are screwed. Unless your name is Dougie P, who does post here.. If you win IDC who the book is or were u place your bets or what the rating is you will be limited. Welcome to the 2000's of Gambling and the digital foot print. Most won't have to worry about this but it's true and so true. So when you gamble make sure to use one of the books listed here and if you can't make sure you use one of the offshores you no will pay u in the end.