Best offshore book now for Americans? Bookmaker?

**darthvader777** · 11-22-23, 11:33 PM

Originally posted by Nittany Lion

So what's the best offshore book now for Americans? i used 5Dimes for years until it shut down several years ago then I switched to DraftKings since I live in Colorado where it's legal. Draftkings is alright but I don't care for the app and not many options for teasers. Parlay odds kind of garbage as well. I was thinking of trying out FanDuel instead but might just go offshore again and stick with bitcoin for deposits/withdrawals. Are offshore books too big of a headsche now and I should stick with a legally operated one in Colorado like FanDuel?

Are Bookmaker and Heritage Sports still at the top? I've been seeing complaints on here about Heritage so I'm thinking of Bookmaker. Any issues with Bookmaker? I use to rely on SBRs ratings but they stopped rating offshore books now.

Besides those, I'd suggest Looselines, Betonline/LowVig/Sportsbetting, and BetUS as solid options that pay.

**pimike** · 11-23-23, 12:38 AM

BetOnLine
Bookmaker
wagerweb

**jedihyoju** · 11-23-23, 01:00 AM

Heritage still top option as reliable payout and security.
just few hickups but they are still A+

**JAKEPEAVY21** · 11-23-23, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by Nittany Lion

So what's the best offshore book now for Americans? i used 5Dimes for years until it shut down several years ago then I switched to DraftKings since I live in Colorado where it's legal. Draftkings is alright but I don't care for the app and not many options for teasers. Parlay odds kind of garbage as well. I was thinking of trying out FanDuel instead but might just go offshore again and stick with bitcoin for deposits/withdrawals. Are offshore books too big of a headsche now and I should stick with a legally operated one in Colorado like FanDuel?

Are Bookmaker and Heritage Sports still at the top? I've been seeing complaints on here about Heritage so I'm thinking of Bookmaker. Any issues with Bookmaker? I use to rely on SBRs ratings but they stopped rating offshore books now.

I would never rely on any site's ratings.

Word of mouth from others is your best bet.

As far as offshore books... I use Heritage, BOL/SBAG mainly but occasionally use Bookmaker, Betpop/youwager and gtbets.

**djefferis** · 11-23-23, 12:28 PM

Considering YouWager - only negative I’ve heard - isn’t it 30 days post offer acceptance until you can cash out if you win.

They hit me the other day with a 70% free play - 1x roll - up to $300 deposit. Sounded easy enough to try them and even with a 30 day hold - not a bad deal.

I’m recently back into offshore - liking Heritage. Is BetDSI still sistered with Bookmaker ? They keep tossing me stupid high cash offers on small deposits.

**djefferis** · 11-23-23, 12:32 PM

And keep in mind - there are only 2 valid reasons for a US player to go offshore right now if you are in a state with legal betting - bonus and taxes - and taxes aren’t really worth it for most people. Even if your a 20k yearly winner - that what 4k you gotta give back ? Sucks - but losing 20k to some book who decided to cheat you knowing you have zero recourse sucks more. Risk and reward my friends.

Bonuses - I’d explore every legal book first for starters / then use the profits to fund your offshore endeavors.

**Optional** · 11-23-23, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by djefferis

Is BetDSI still sistered with Bookmaker ?

No.

And make sure you understand all the terms.

Have not look recently but it was different for deposits over $999, after you had completed rollover there is another 1x rollover of the bonus balance transferred to cash balance before it can be withdrawn and a maximum win amount from the bonus.

**djefferis** · 11-23-23, 01:45 PM

The 1x after conversion I understand.

max win of bonus given I didn’t see - will re read. These are relatively low bonuses / thinking it was 100% up to $200 - will check again.

**djefferis** · 11-23-23, 01:50 PM

Here are T&C on the latest 200% Thanksgiving offer received - similar to the last offer I took them up on.

[*]Minimum deposit: $45[*]Bonus up to $100[*]The bonus expires in 30 days[*]22X Rollover

Don’t see a cap on bonus winnings - just high roll and low bonus amount.

**Optional** · 11-23-23, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by djefferis

Here are T&C on the latest 200% Thanksgiving offer received - similar to the last offer I took them up on.

[*]Minimum deposit: $45[*]Bonus up to $100[*]The bonus expires in 30 days[*]22X Rollover

Don’t see a cap on bonus winnings - just high roll and low bonus amount.

A lot of books have additional terms in general terms as well as more in bonus terms that are rarely directly linked to anything in the actual bonus offer or its own specific terms.

House Rules - BetDSI

https://www.betdsi.eu/betting-rules/house-rules/

HOUSE RULES General Rules The rules at BETDSI conform very closely to those found at Las Vegas Sportsbook, and are used to protect both our company and you, the bettor. All customer betting accounts at BETDSI are private and confidential, and all calls are recorded on tape and held for disputes for a period of seven days. All clients must…

**jedihyoju** · 11-23-23, 06:48 PM

Originally posted by Optional

A lot of books have additional terms in general terms as well as more in bonus terms that are rarely directly linked to anything in the actual bonus offer or its own specific terms.

House Rules - BetDSI

https://www.betdsi.eu/betting-rules/house-rules/

HOUSE RULES General Rules The rules at BETDSI conform very closely to those found at Las Vegas Sportsbook, and are used to protect both our company and you, the bettor. All customer betting accounts at BETDSI are private and confidential, and all calls are recorded on tape and held for disputes for a period of seven days. All clients must…

Such a sneaky bastards they are

**djefferis** · 11-24-23, 06:56 AM

Damn - that is a bit shady.

Managed to clear my balance there last night - won’t be back I guess.

Saw them advertising “certificates of deposit” too - and thought WTF?!? I mean I get alternative investments - but the yield was actually stupidly low - like 4% 1 year - my local credit union is 5.5% on promo same term. Oh - early cash out forfeits ALL earned interest (not just current quarter like my CU).

Sucks that offshore has all but gone away - still got a few places I’ll play at for the bonus - but DSI used to be decent.

Going to explore YouWager - probably should check out BetOnline - but just can’t convince myself to use them based on past experiences. Will look into Bookmaker too - never have too many good outs.

**JAKEPEAVY21** · 11-24-23, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by djefferis

Considering YouWager - only negative I’ve heard - isn’t it 30 days post offer acceptance until you can cash out if you win.

They hit me the other day with a 70% free play - 1x roll - up to $300 deposit. Sounded easy enough to try them and even with a 30 day hold - not a bad deal.

I’m recently back into offshore - liking Heritage. Is BetDSI still sistered with Bookmaker ? They keep tossing me stupid high cash offers on small deposits.

Youwager/Betpop has different bonuses with different terms. Some you can cash out winnings immediately while others have a 30 day hold etc. I prefer to take the smaller bonuses in which I can cash out winnings right away. That is honestly the only reason I ever really post up there because I like that option.

Maybe go on live chat or email them and see what promotions they have available and maybe they have something that works for you, good luck!

**Nittany Lion** · 11-24-23, 06:28 PM

Thanks for all the info everyone, will have to think about if it's worth messing with offshore or not.