Tipico STOLE my money!!!!!

**AimingHigh** · 12-23-09, 11:45 AM

Your post suggests you placed 1 bet only: for €400 to win €1600. Is that right? If so, any idea why they might be referring to wagering patterns? Are there any hyperlinks in their e-mail to the term(s) they say you've violated? Have you asked them what term(s) you've violated? If not, I would ask them.

If you placed only 1 bet, it's hard to guess what their problem is. What country are you in? Could it have anything to do with taking a new account bonus, or betting from a location that may be used by other people (internet cafe, university dorms, etc.), where those other people may have also taken a bonus and/or bet on the same lines as you?

The link for the SBR complaint form is in my signature. I don't think the UK bonus people got any improved result by complaining here, so it may be that Tipico doesn't care much about SBR and its rating. Fill out the complaint form anyway, though, just in case.

**mirmiroa** · 12-23-09, 11:51 AM

yes but it is not abut a bonus 100 euro...i would have 2000 euro now in my account...i first placed a bet 200 euro in big odds and after that a bet 400 euro to cotbus(2.3) and then they closes my account...i placed the bet of cotbus from a net spot but what is wrong with that??do they say in their terms that i am not alowed to play from public places or other computers???i dont understand how they r trying to make money with these ways with must all show these issues so that people know about the companies which are seriouse and wich r thiefs...i will ask what u said...and i already filled the complaint form

**Dunder** · 12-23-09, 12:49 PM

I am not sure whether SBR will be able to help you but Tipico is a book which has a reputation for doing this sort of thing.

I am guessing they have not told you what they think you have done wrong but there are several possibilities.

1) The fact you have placed this bet from public location.
2) Perceived multi-accounting (do you have any family memebrs who bet on this game?)
3) Syndicates (you are Turkish, right?) have bet heavily on this game - German 2nd division has a real problem with ´match fixing´

Unfortunately, when a book decides that it is going to confiscate funds (even if totally unjustified) it is very difficult to get them to change that decision.

If you don´t get any help here or from Tipico, you need to contact Tipico´s regulator. Unfortunately the Maltese LGA does not have a good reputation in terms of helping players.
www.lga.org.mt

**mirmiroa** · 12-23-09, 12:57 PM

i am from greece...
no member of my family has any account only one friend who also bets and we placed the bets together from the net spot and this is propably the prob and our mistake...but the are allowed to steal the money for that reason???so it could happen to everyone it is really unfair...we didnt do anything illegal i will sent an email to lga i hope to take my money it is about 2000 euro i will ask and my friend if this is what happened to my friends account(i guess yes if this aas the reason the closed my account) i dont know i am really stressed i need thes emoney....

**austin** · 12-23-09, 12:59 PM

Originally posted by mirmiroa

i first placed a bet 200 euro in big odds and after that a bet 400 euro to cotbus(2.3) and then they closes my account...i placed the bet of cotbus from a net spot but what is wrong with that?

sorry to hear that, but tippico previously has been 'funny' with their bonuses.
a regular/recreational punter wouldn't normally bet 200 euro on high odds and they state something like that in their t and c's. I hope you didn't match it with the exchange

**Champi** · 12-23-09, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by Dunder

I am not sure whether SBR will be able to help you but Tipico is a book which has a reputation for doing this sort of thing.

3) Syndicates (you are Turkish, right?) have bet heavily on this game - German 2nd division has a real problem with ´match fixing´

Unfortunately, when a book decides that it is going to confiscate funds (even if totally unjustified) it is very difficult to get them to change that decision.

If you don´t get any help here or from Tipico, you need to contact Tipico´s regulator. Unfortunately the Maltese LGA does not have a good reputation in terms of helping players.
www.lga.org.mt

1st-Did you have the proof for match fixing.its very easy to mark winning user as syndycate bettor or match fixing without proofs.
2nd-Tipico remove bonuses to Uk users and it was unfair decision,so they have unethical practice before.
3rd-You may talk to support and tell him that you know your rights-if you are tough enough you will receive your funds.If they are cheaters they will hold your account and finaly if you think that LGA-Malta will do something go play bingo.

**Dunder** · 12-23-09, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by Champi

1st-Did you have the proof for match fixing.its very easy to mark winning user as syndycate bettor or match fixing without proofs.
2nd-Tipico remove bonuses to Uk users and it was unfair decision,so they have unethical practice before.
3rd-You may talk to support and tell him that you know your rights-if you are tough enough you will receive your funds.If they are cheaters they will hold your account and finaly if you think that LGA-Malta will do something go play bingo.

1st
I have no proof of anything, which is why I used the word "possibilities".

2nd
I said that Tipico has a reputation for doing things like this!

3rd
You are probably correct, but it cannot do any harm - can it?

4th (added by me)
Did you receive your funds from Bet7Days by being "tough enough"? Aside from complaining to the LGA, what "rights" do you have with a book registered in Malta?

**mirmiroa** · 12-23-09, 01:45 PM

i feel like victim i dont know what to say and the worst is that i dont know what to do??to go to their building in malta and start shouting??i think it is really unfair...
i have al the docments to prove that the bets were acepted and that they win they send u mail with the resuts of the bettings so i have proofs...

**Dunder** · 12-23-09, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by mirmiroa

i am from greece...
no member of my family has any account only one friend who also bets and we placed the bets together from the net spot and this is propably the prob and our mistake...but the are allowed to steal the money for that reason???.

This, I am sure is what the issue/problem is:
Do you know what Tipico´s bet size limit was on Cottbus? If your combined bet (i.e. the bet that you made and the bet that your friend made) exceeded this limit then you will have a tough time making a case, IMHO

Have you and your friend done this before (bet on the same team/same game) or was this the only time?

**mirmiroa** · 12-23-09, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by Dunder

This, I am sure is what the issue/problem is:
Do you know what Tipico´s bet size limit was on Cottbus? If your combined bet (i.e. the bet that you made and the bet that your friend made) exceeded this limit then you will have a tough time making a case, IMHO

Have you and your friend done this before (bet on the same team/same game) or was this the only time?

i think it was the first time...but is it reason to stel ur money??i just checked my email finally i should have 1500 in my account these r the 2 bets i made...

**Dunder** · 12-23-09, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by mirmiroa

i think it was the first time...but is it reason to stel ur money??i just checked my email finally i should have 1500 in my account these r the 2 bets i made...

If you have exceeded betting limits, even without knowing it, by means of you and your friend betting on the same outcome, from the same IP address then I am afraid that you have very little chance of getting these winnings.

**mirmiroa** · 12-23-09, 02:37 PM

i am n ot sure if it was the same ip...but still it is not fair we accept exploiting us???if u have a seriouse company and accept a bet u must pay if wins not trying to find ways to steal their money...
LGA will answer me??there is any chance to find a solution from there???

**Dunder** · 12-23-09, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by mirmiroa

i am n ot sure if it was the same ip...but still it is not fair we accept exploiting us???if u have a seriouse company and accept a bet u must pay if wins not trying to find ways to steal their money...
LGA will answer me??there is any chance to find a solution from there???

1) How much did your friend bet on this game? (Cottbus)
2) What is/was the betting limit?

**mirmiroa** · 12-23-09, 02:54 PM

i dont know their betting limits btu i placed 400 without any warning...my friend i think something like that we read in a greek forum about this match and decided to bet much for our standars and now...anyway i will try to do the best i can....

**mirmiroa** · 12-24-09, 02:41 AM

finally happened the same and to my friend...should i recoment to do the same things i did???what aout lga do they answer???

**Dunder** · 12-24-09, 08:21 AM

You will receive a response from the LGA, I sincerely doubt that they will be able/willing to help, however.

Even if what you and your friend have done is a completely innocent mistake, it is easy for the book to claim that this is an attempt to circumvent limits and/or abuse bonuses.

But yes, your friend should also seek clarification from Tipico and write to the LGA.

**Stumpage** · 12-24-09, 09:03 AM

Unfortunately, you were doomed the moment that the second identical (Or at least, very similar) wager was placed, from either you or your friend. Many, many books look for any type of excuse not to pay, some bordering on the hysterical. However, sharing the same IP is a fairly standard defence that even some of the most reputable books will fall back on.

Dunder is offering you sound advice here. Exhaust all your resourcs in an attempt to recover your funds, even if that looks unlikely.

**Champi** · 12-24-09, 09:32 AM

Originally posted by Dunder

1st

Did you receive your funds from Bet7Days by being "tough enough"? Aside from complaining to the LGA, what "rights" do you have with a book registered in Malta?

No,because Bet7Days are biggest scam site in the world who still operate illegally,but they are now under investigation
But i was tough enough and i receive my funds from PariMatch(1,5k) and BetOnbet(0,5K) and JetBull(0,5k)-How many people receive their funds from BetOnBet?

Also you know every book has rating and i have experience also,LGA helps me twice,once with 24HPoker(it was poker mistake-which was corrected after contacting LGA),But LGA-didnt help me with bookies like Stryyke,WauwGaming and BetKlass-they still hold part of my funds and 1 year,LGA Malta officers refuse to make decision.

For now Tipico pay quickly and there is no problems with them,IF you not use any bonuses.

**mirmiroa** · 12-24-09, 09:23 PM

thnx for ur advises i have done everything i could now i wait and i am trying to find someone who will know somnwho works in that tipico although it seems hard but maybe if i find someone from inside i fn solution...i cant be stolen "legally"

**mirmiroa** · 12-27-09, 10:14 AM

still no response from lga nor tipico...i filled the complaint form here but no response yet too

**althelegend** · 12-28-09, 01:27 PM

German book should also be subject to laws and trade regulations of the European Economic Community.

**raddle_snake** · 12-29-09, 05:26 AM

Seems that they are hiding and don't want to reply on you, never mind that!
Switsh to to others, that bookie is not meant for you

**marabdl86** · 12-29-09, 06:05 AM

why do you people keep playing at these scam books!!!!!!!!!!!!

pinnacle, 5dimes, the greek are all great

**mirmiroa** · 12-29-09, 08:58 PM

i played there for the bonus...no other reason and now they r trying to steal my money...even if my bet wa sprob for them why did they accept??or if they dont want me as a player pay me and kick me off what they do is not fair they sent me back 100 euro of deposit although i ahould hve 1300 euro now i think i will fight to receive my money....they permited to bet it means that they had bet at 1 and x so there was a balance they dont lose anything they r simply thieves....

**mirmiroa** · 01-07-10, 02:13 PM

tipico doesnt response to my rmsil they send my the same text and when i ask them wich terms did i violate they dont even answer me....still no response from lga too but today i sent them a fax with all the proofs and explainations...
anyone hasexpirience with these kind of issues what other ways do i have to hunt for my money???lga has ever helped anyone??should i hope??

**Champi** · 01-07-10, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by mirmiroa

tipico doesnt response to my rmsil they send my the same text and when i ask them wich terms did i violate they dont even answer me....still no response from lga too but today i sent them a fax with all the proofs and explainations...
anyone hasexpirience with these kind of issues what other ways do i have to hunt for my money???lga has ever helped anyone??should i hope??

LGA Will NOT help you.
Try to spoke with Tipico again

**bihon** · 02-16-10, 06:12 PM

There were some jerks defending these crooks in this thread: http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbook...ked-funds.html .
They obviously miss this one too.

**Toit** · 02-16-10, 07:40 PM

A Greek woman placing similar bets to 'a friend' on a 2nd Bundesliga match using a shared IP...
I'd be suspicious myself if I were a bookie.

**mirmiroa** · 02-17-10, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by Toit

A Greek woman placing similar bets to 'a friend' on a 2nd Bundesliga match using a shared IP... I'd be suspicious myself if I were a bookie.

so what?? is it prohibited??bookies like this are thieves

**tltaylor89** · 02-17-10, 06:09 PM

Sounds like a orange

**limit pro** · 05-08-12, 04:10 PM

Hello,am really conciern about the delay am recieving from tipico on how to withdraw my won bet,i have won abount 4 times and the money was transfered to my account(though little amount 296,200 300),but since i won a bet of 4800 ,they have been asking me to send varios documents...like utility bill,id cards.which i have sent already,but now they requst for a copy of my front ****.I really dont know was up here.

**cheremos** · 09-24-12, 03:27 PM

mine too

**gangeriver** · 09-24-12, 10:05 PM

a few days ago a Turkish Tipico customer had a issue with Tipico. he takes a parlay bet and the last game is dodgers moneyline but the game postponed because of the rain. the game played with same pitchers (zimmerman - harang) next day. his ticket wins finally and there is not any problem about his ticket, tipico pays.he takes lots of bets next day (said that almost 40-50)
and he checks his account last sunday,

balance = 0.00 and all of tickets cancelded.

the winner dodgers game counts as loser so the first parlay ticket counts as loser...so the book takes back all of the money.
maybe north american bettors dont now that situation, most euro books don't show starting pitcher names so sometimes loser games count as winner and winners count as loser. problem is tipico doesn't accept it's own mistake.
unfortunately SBR knows nothing about euro books and gives stupid raitings. that scammers has C raiting.