Sister Sportsbooks?

**Wohlford** · 07-30-16, 02:59 PM

5Dimes and SportBet have different reduced juice programs.

Bookmaker and betDSI sometimes have slightly different lines.

**ki dice** · 07-30-16, 09:14 PM

Skybook and betphoenix are also with betmania

**TheGuesser** · 07-30-16, 11:28 PM

YouWager, BetPop, and a few others.

Sportsbook.ag, Hollywoodsportsbook, and a whole Bunch of others

**barnstorm** · 08-01-16, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by TheGuesser

YouWager, BetPop, and a few others.

Sportsbook.ag, Hollywoodsportsbook, and a whole Bunch of others

Are you saying YouWager and BetPop are the same? And Sportsbook and Hollywoodsportsbook?

**rockmvp1209** · 08-01-16, 09:24 AM

Betonline and sportsbook

**barnstorm** · 08-01-16, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by rockmvp1209

Betonline and sportsbook

Not even close to the same odds. Betonline.ag has 10 cent lines and Sportsbook.ag has 20 cent lines!

Maybe you meant they are affiliated. Maybe the same management, but certainly not the same interface or odds.

**rockmvp1209** · 08-01-16, 10:28 AM

I meant betonline and sportsbetting.ag are sister books. This is a fact buddy

**barnstorm** · 08-01-16, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by rockmvp1209

I meant betonline and sportsbetting.ag are sister books. This is a fact buddy

Okay, I don't disbelieve you. Maybe one owns the other or they share management or customer service or something. Do you know which?

I was just pointing out that they don't share the same odds and that is what I was looking for - books that present the same odds.

Thanks!

**rockmvp1209** · 08-01-16, 10:54 AM

Sportsbetting ag is different from sportsbook. Same exact lines as betonline and sportsbetting.ag

**Optional** · 08-01-16, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by barnstorm

Not even close to the same odds. Betonline.ag has 10 cent lines and Sportsbook.ag has 20 cent lines!

Maybe you meant they are affiliated. Maybe the same management, but certainly not the same interface or odds.

You are correct. Sportsbook.ag and Betonline.ag are not connected.

**barnstorm** · 08-01-16, 12:40 PM

Originally posted by rockmvp1209

I meant betonline and sportsbetting.ag are sister books. This is a fact buddy

Ah, I see. You meant sportsbetting.ag, not sportsbook.ag or sportsbettingonline.ag.

Yes, I see that Sportsbetting.ag and Betonline.ag are the same. Exact same layout and odds! Thanks!

Did you all know that BetOnline is now charging 6.5% for deposits! I can't believe they would do that. And they are being kind of deceptive about it as they don't list it up front on the deposit page or confirmation page. It's in the fine print on a completely different page. Anyone know anybody there to talk some sense into them. They have been a good book and their site is fast and odds pretty good, but I'm not going to pay 6.5% for a deposit. Even with Bitcoin deposits they are charging 6.5%.

I'll check to see if Sportsbetting.ag is also charging that same 6.5% since they appear to be linked to BetOnline. Hope not and then I'll just use them rather than BetOnline.

**rockmvp1209** · 08-01-16, 01:04 PM

Yeah I tried to play with sports betting.ag. I got charged 12 percent on a depsoit when it was all said and done. Absolutely rediculpus

**barnstorm** · 08-01-16, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by rockmvp1209

Yeah I tried to play with sports betting.ag. I got charged 12 percent on a depsoit when it was all said and done. Absolutely rediculpus

Yes, I just confirmed that SportsBetting.ag charges the same 6.5% for deposits as BetOnline. This is unheard of in the Industry and they are hiding it in the fine print of the General Rules pages and not alerting the customer to it in the Deposit process. I will start a new thread about this and maybe the heavy hitters from SBR can talk some sense into them.

**rockmvp1209** · 08-01-16, 01:27 PM

I think I deposited 200 and then some reason was only credited for 187 in my account. That's 13 dollar fee. Then my kredit kaarrdd company charged me 3 percent on top of everything. Such bs

**rockmvp1209** · 08-01-16, 01:33 PM

Betonline and sportsbetting.ag offer good baseball props that many books don't have but the 9 percent fee I take for a depsoit is unacceptable

**Optional** · 08-01-16, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by barnstorm

Yes, I just confirmed that SportsBetting.ag charges the same 6.5% for deposits as BetOnline. This is unheard of in the Industry and they are hiding it in the fine print of the General Rules pages and not alerting the customer to it in the Deposit process. I will start a new thread about this and maybe the heavy hitters from SBR can talk some sense into them.

Do a search and read the other threads asking SBR to make them change their policies instead of doing that. Basically SBR does not to tell books how to run their business and says if you do not like their terms, do not use them. Betonline offers a perpetual reload bonus which is meant to cover the fee and people who like playing there can see the value in paying it.

**barnstorm** · 08-01-16, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Do a search and read the other threads asking SBR to make them change their policies instead of doing that. Basically SBR does not to tell books how to run their business and says if you do not like their terms, do not use them. Betonline offers a perpetual reload bonus which is meant to cover the fee and people who like playing there can see the value in paying it.

Okay. Good advice. I agree, they can set whatever policy they want and then it's our choice. But I, like rockymvp above, had no idea I was going to get dinged for 6.5%. Most Books are upfront with the fees for deposits and payouts right there on the deposit and payout pages.

So take the reload bonus to make up for the deposit fee. The Reload bonus is probably a free play, so if it is a 20% free play, call it 10% and that makes up for the 6.5% deposit fee.

Thanks.

**rockmvp1209** · 08-01-16, 04:53 PM

An absolute act of treachery . Although there props are really good and poker solid. But 9.5 pct fee is insane lol so if I deposit a grand I'm paying 65 bucks on the fee for BOL and 30 bucks to the Kredito kardo

**Frank** · 08-01-16, 07:58 PM

A few years back, SBR rating guide let you group books by family.

Not sure why that filter was removed.

**TheGuesser** · 08-02-16, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by barnstorm

Are you saying YouWager and BetPop are the same? And Sportsbook and Hollywoodsportsbook?

Yes, same lines at each grouping.

**InsiderHer** · 08-02-16, 12:26 AM

Originally posted by Frank

A few years back, SBR rating guide let you group books by family.

Not sure why that filter was removed.

Yep, and I think software too

**barnstorm** · 08-02-16, 10:11 AM

HRWager.ag, which is highly rated here on SBR has the same odds and user interface as SkyBook.ag and BetPhoenix.ag. Same 200% free play bonus.

**Bill Dozer** · 08-09-16, 04:03 PM

Betonline puts people off with a deposit fee for some methods. It leaves a bad taste but you have to look at the bottom line. Bonuses and perks offset it.

Originally posted by rockmvp1209

I meant betonline and sportsbetting.ag are sister books. This is a fact buddy

Sportsbetting used to be on the Sportsbook.com platform maybe 4-5 years ago. Sportsbook had a lot of licenses working in different ways.

**theviking** · 08-09-16, 04:15 PM

I guess this are less known in US

mobilbet and comeon same owner, a bit different odds
betson betsafe and nordicbet and others belong to betssongroup a bit differnt odds
Redbet- whitebet

**HedgeHog** · 08-09-16, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by Bill Dozer

Betonline puts people off with a deposit fee for some methods. It leaves a bad taste but you have to look at the bottom line. Bonuses and perks offset it.

Sportsbetting used to be on the Sportsbook.com platform maybe 4-5 years ago. Sportsbook had a lot of licenses working in different ways.

Yes, but bonuses come with rollovers, although not that hard to do at BOL. Regardless, BOL should disclose the 6.5% fee upfront. Very shady how they hide it, imo.

**temple2010** · 08-09-16, 05:58 PM

Fak bet-online, crooks!! 6.5% what a scam

**Dylan Lynch** · 08-17-16, 10:20 AM

be carefull with these sister website or how they are called, as they are too tricky and no one from the owners will recognize their activity

**Bill Dozer** · 08-21-16, 08:09 PM

yes, they certainly should list the fee. I have a hard time believing its not listed somewhere because its not a complaint we get.

**HedgeHog** · 08-21-16, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by Bill Dozer

yes, they certainly should list the fee. I have a hard time believing its not listed somewhere because its not a complaint we get.

It's buried deep in the T & C 's. It should instead be disclosed in the banking area.

**Natty68** · 08-22-16, 12:29 AM

I could have sworn Phoenix was one of the cris books

**sshz** · 08-22-16, 12:59 AM

Under the First Fidelity umbrella, you have Youwager, Betpop, Achaubet, Wager7, DiscountWager and Han Player...........I believe they also have VietBet too.

**NSN21** · 08-22-16, 01:43 AM

Jazz/Looselines

**luctens** · 08-22-16, 04:07 AM

Originally posted by sshz

Under the First Fidelity umbrella, you have Youwager, Betpop, Achaubet, Wager7, DiscountWager and Han Player...........I believe they also have VietBet too.

VietBet is in the 5Dimes group.

**Lopez84** · 08-30-16, 07:09 PM

Are there any other clones of Betcris, other than Bookmaker, DSI, Justbet and Galaxysports?