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  • ChiTownOffset
    SBR Rookie
    • 08-10-18
    • 23

    #1
    Beware of Betonline.ag
    Hey guys, I just made a SBR account just so I could get my story out there about how my Betonline account went through a serious issue a couple days ago.

    For some background, I deposited $25 etherum a month ago and worked it up to $350 only using the Sportsbook.

    So at the end of Thursday, August 9th, I had $281 in my account before I placed an e-sport wager at 2:32am on August 10th. This was a winning bet. I logged back into my account around 7:30am to see my account had risen to $309. I placed another e-sport wager at 7:45am. This bet later won and I went to sleep. I woke back up around 10am expecting to see $329 and to my disbelief there was only $29 in my available balance. This obviously made 0 sense to me. I quickly checked my pending wagers and graded wagers but there was nothing out of the ordinary there. I quickly call player services to see what happened.

    I was 2 minutes into my call with support and was on the betonline desktop site (which any user knows is a pain to stay signed in) when my account dropped from $29 to $4.94 in real time. So to clarify, I was on the phone explaining my missing $300 situation when another $24 just vanished.

    Now I start to believe something is very fishy and something is going on with my account. Something has been compromised or hacked. The lady in player services was nice and understanding about the situation. Further into the call I made my way into the all transactions page. Here is what confirmed my suspicion. On Thursday, August 9th, there was a transaction made labeled as “Transfer to Poker” for $300 debit. There was also a transaction labeled as “Casino Win” also on Thursday for a $300 credit. This was clearly not my doing and the lady on the phone realized this. Keep in mind, I physically saw $281 at 2:32am and $309 at 7:30am on Friday.

    So I have 2 issues here, how did someone go back in time on Thursday and drain my account of $300 I never had on Thursday and if were following the correct time of my wagers how does my account only have $4.94 when my last two bets on Friday we’re winning bets of $25 and $21 dollars. None of this adds up and the $300 transfer doesn’t even make sense relative to my betting history and the fact I’ve never touched the casino or poker sections.

    I was on the phone for 30 minutes and the lady said she was going to expedite my case and I should hear back in 24-48 hours. It’s been over 24 hours as I make this post. I also sent a follow up email basically explaining how things transpired for me Friday morning. I know things like this take time but this is inexcusable and I’ve procided ample of information and verification to them so they can see this transfer of money was clearly not my doing.

    If I hear anything in the coming hours I’ll be sure to update this thread but for now I’m curious as to what else I can do or what SBR can do about this. I know you guys have a big reputation amongst the Sportsbook. Between this issue, an incorrect wager grading and the constant issues I have signing into their browser I am not using them anymore and will be transferring my funds (if restored) to another Sportsbook.
  • ibetyouadollar
    SBR High Roller
    • 01-26-18
    • 200

    #2
    really weird,they been around forever and are A rated.
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    • Optional
      Administrator
      • 06-10-10
      • 60655

      #3
      If you would fill in a sportsbook complaint form SBR can ask a manager to review the situation for you.
      .
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      • ChiTownOffset
        SBR Rookie
        • 08-10-18
        • 23

        #4
        Originally posted by Optional
        If you would fill in a sportsbook complaint form SBR can ask a manager to review the situation for you.
        Ive filed a complaint with SBR and it’s been 48 hours since my call with Betonline. Any other options I have? I’ve looked into all the other similar issues people had and it seems like people get their money back. I haven’t logged into the casino/poker to check what happened specifically in fear of them using it against me somehow since I know my IP has never once logged in there.
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        • Optional
          Administrator
          • 06-10-10
          • 60655

          #5
          Originally posted by ChiTownOffset

          Ive filed a complaint with SBR and it’s been 48 hours since my call with Betonline. Any other options I have? I’ve looked into all the other similar issues people had and it seems like people get their money back. I haven’t logged into the casino/poker to check what happened specifically in fear of them using it against me somehow since I know my IP has never once logged in there.
          Yes they have made people good after similar issues before. They might take a few days about it.
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          • bubba
            SBR MVP
            • 09-29-05
            • 2432

            #6
            Originally posted by Optional
            Yes they have made people good after similar issues before. They might take a few days about it.
            Is betonline more prone to these issues than other books? or does it just appear that way from glancing the forums. serious question
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            • danshan11
              SBR MVP
              • 07-08-17
              • 4101

              #7
              their site is so messed up and destroyed, they probably dont even know what happened
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              • ChiTownOffset
                SBR Rookie
                • 08-10-18
                • 23

                #8
                Originally posted by bubba
                Is betonline more prone to these issues than other books? or does it just appear that way from glancing the forums. serious question
                I have only been using it for a little over a month and when I googled "Betonline hacked" there are a lot of exactly similar stories to mine ranging all the way back to 2012 and as recent as last February.
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                • littlekona
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 11-19-15
                  • 5241

                  #9
                  If it’s a poker hack chip dump it’s way easy for them to figure...BOL is not going to screw u they are long time solid book....but anytime I see esports then account issues red flags pop up as many times past post bets occur intentional or not
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                  • ChiTownOffset
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 08-10-18
                    • 23

                    #10
                    Originally posted by littlekona
                    If it’s a poker hack chip dump it’s way easy for them to figure...BOL is not going to screw u they are long time solid book....but anytime I see esports then account issues red flags pop up as many times past post bets occur intentional or not
                    Can you elaborate what you mean when you say you see e-sport wagers then account issues? Do you think those 2 winning bets I placed on Friday played a part in all this? I only ask because Ive been trying to stress the point that I had seen my money normally Friday morning after my first winning bet and then after my second one i went back to sleep and woke up to the money missing which the transaction page had listed from Thursday so that's whats messing with me.

                    Its like that person or something went back in time and did the chip and dump.
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                    • littlekona
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 11-19-15
                      • 5241

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ChiTownOffset
                      Can you elaborate what you mean when you say you see e-sport wagers then account issues? Do you think those 2 winning bets I placed on Friday played a part in all this? I only ask because Ive been trying to stress the point that I had seen my money normally Friday morning after my first winning bet and then after my second one i went back to sleep and woke up to the money missing which the transaction page had listed from Thursday so that's whats messing with me.

                      Its like that person or something went back in time and did the chip and dump.
                      did you really go to sleep wake up and money was poofff gone.....wish someone would say it happened during day... Esports, poker issues and going to sleep waking up funds gone all red flags...BOL will figure out thats only thing i know for sure here
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                      • ChiTownOffset
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 08-10-18
                        • 23

                        #12
                        Originally posted by littlekona
                        did you really go to sleep wake up and money was poofff gone.....wish someone would say it happened during day... Esports, poker issues and going to sleep waking up funds gone all red flags...BOL will figure out thats only thing i know for sure here
                        So it’s a little tricky to follow the train of events without being too detailed but I’ll try my best. My Thursday ended with $281. Placed a wager Friday that won and brought up my account to $309. I physically saw this number Friday at 7:30am. I placed another wager around 8am which won and should have brought my account to $329. I took a snooze for a couple hours and woke up to only $29. This was listed as a chip and dump but for Thursday at 11:59pm.

                        Then while on the phone with support it dropped from $29 to $4.94 (I still have not figured out where this money went) in real time when I was trying to give information to the support lady. I feel like the biggest indication that it wasn’t me is the fact my last two wagers are winning bets for around $50 on Friday but my account only has $4.94. For the life of me I can’t understand how $300 was transferred when I never had $300 in my account on Thursday so that would mean my money was retroactively taken out? This should all be plenty of information for BOL to understand what happened. It’s been well over 48 hours since my original call though.
                        Last edited by ChiTownOffset; 08-13-18, 11:31 AM.
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                        • SBR Drew
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 01-08-18
                          • 7351

                          #13
                          Update here?
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                          • ChiTownOffset
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 08-10-18
                            • 23

                            #14
                            Originally posted by SBR Drew
                            Update here?
                            Only thing that’s happened since my original post is I filed a SBR complaint August 12th at 9:30am and I talked to BOL chat support August 12th at 9:08pm. I kept a transcription of these chats and the lady on chat support said they are still investigating and should be getting back to me with an email in 24 hours.

                            Not sure if these deadlines mean anything since it’s been well over 48 hours since I talked to support on the phone on Friday at 10am and the lady said I’d be on some sort of priority list to the investigation team.
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                            • littlekona
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 11-19-15
                              • 5241

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ChiTownOffset
                              Only thing that’s happened since my original post is I filed a SBR complaint August 12th at 9:30am and I talked to BOL chat support August 12th at 9:08pm. I kept a transcription of these chats and the lady on chat support said they are still investigating and should be getting back to me with an email in 24 hours.

                              Not sure if these deadlines mean anything since it’s been well over 48 hours since I talked to support on the phone on Friday at 10am and the lady said I’d be on some sort of priority list to the investigation team.


                              Taka a nap for few hours...maybe it will magically appear back during sleep
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                              • bubba
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-29-05
                                • 2432

                                #16
                                Originally posted by ChiTownOffset
                                So it’s a little tricky to follow the train of events without being too detailed but I’ll try my best. My Thursday ended with $281. Placed a wager Friday that won and brought up my account to $309. I physically saw this number Friday at 7:30am. I placed another wager around 8am which won and should have brought my account to $329. I took a snooze for a couple hours and woke up to only $29. This was listed as a chip and dump but for Thursday at 11:59pm.

                                Then while on the phone with support it dropped from $29 to $4.94 (I still have not figured out where this money went) in real time when I was trying to give information to the support lady. I feel like the biggest indication that it wasn’t me is the fact my last two wagers are winning bets for around $50 on Friday but my account only has $4.94. For the life of me I can’t understand how $300 was transferred when I never had $300 in my account on Thursday so that would mean my money was retroactively taken out? This should all be plenty of information for BOL to understand what happened. It’s been well over 48 hours since my original call though.
                                It would be nice if betonline provided on their website a transaction history that shows the balance after each transaction. They dont. It makes following the balance so much easier for their clients. It is kind of beyond me that they dont provide this feature, but every part of their website, I am basically shocked a company would take that route.
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                                • ChiTownOffset
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 08-10-18
                                  • 23

                                  #17
                                  Update:

                                  I got a call just now from BetOnline and they said they knew i was being hacked and should be receiving my funds back. Will update again once funds are back in my account.
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                                  • jbayko
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 12-29-16
                                    • 310

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by ChiTownOffset
                                    Only thing that’s happened since my original post is I filed a SBR complaint August 12th at 9:30am and I talked to BOL chat support August 12th at 9:08pm. I kept a transcription of these chats and the lady on chat support said they are still investigating and should be getting back to me with an email in 24 hours.

                                    Not sure if these deadlines mean anything since it’s been well over 48 hours since I talked to support on the phone on Friday at 10am and the lady said I’d be on some sort of priority list to the investigation team.
                                    One of the things I’ve learned over the years - and this isn’t at all unique to offshore sports books but is true for any business really - is that when a customer service agent tells you that a task which is being completed by a separate department will be done in 24 or 48 hours, they are usually pulling that time frame completely out of their ass.
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                                    • bubba
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-29-05
                                      • 2432

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by ChiTownOffset
                                      Update:

                                      I got a call just now from BetOnline and they said they knew i was being hacked and should be receiving my funds back. Will update again once funds are back in my account.
                                      Any word on how this hack occurred? Was it an employee? Was your computer hacked? or something fully on their end? What can we do to protect ourselves from these hacks.
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                                      • ChiTownOffset
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 08-10-18
                                        • 23

                                        #20
                                        Final Update:

                                        $325 added back to the account and they shut down my Poker and Casino services (by request). Still debating on withdrawing to Heritage or Bovada. Not sure which one is better. Any opinions on this would be greatly appreciated.
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                                        • littlekona
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 11-19-15
                                          • 5241

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by ChiTownOffset
                                          Final Update:

                                          $325 added back to the account and they shut down my Poker and Casino services (by request). Still debating on withdrawing to Heritage or Bovada. Not sure which one is better. Any opinions on this would be greatly appreciated.
                                          Heritage is better by a city block easily the best FIAT book......SBR / BOL needs to address why this continues to happen to them...
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                                          • ChiTownOffset
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 08-10-18
                                            • 23

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by littlekona
                                            Heritage is better by a city block easily the best FIAT book......SBR / BOL needs to address why this continues to happen to them...
                                            When you say best fiat book, do you mean they do not accept Bitcoin? That would be my ideal way of withdrawals and deposits.
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                                            • littlekona
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 11-19-15
                                              • 5241

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by ChiTownOffset
                                              When you say best fiat book, do you mean they do not accept Bitcoin? That would be my ideal way of withdrawals and deposits.
                                              heritage BTC withdrawals are faster then BOL,,,By Fiat I mean book who turns your BTC deposit to USD/Euro then back to BTC when u withdrawal Heritage is easily #1 IMO best CS too
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                                              • Daddy89
                                                SBR Hustler
                                                • 05-09-18
                                                • 84

                                                #24
                                                Heritage is better...
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                                                • ChiTownOffset
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 08-10-18
                                                  • 23

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Daddy89
                                                  Heritage is better...
                                                  Just a few questions if you don't mind. I looked at the comparison between Heritage and Bookmaker and it looks like Heritage has a better bonus but everything else seems about the same so maybe you can help me decide which is better by how I bet.

                                                  I mainly like to bet in $10-50 at a time so limits don't really bother me. I like e-sports a lot and I like props for major sports and basically like having a lot of options within games. I also like to live bet major sports. I mainly bet on my phone as well. Do you think Heritage would be good for me? Thanks in advance
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                                                  • milwaukee mike
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 08-22-07
                                                    • 26914

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by ChiTownOffset
                                                    Just a few questions if you don't mind. I looked at the comparison between Heritage and Bookmaker and it looks like Heritage has a better bonus but everything else seems about the same so maybe you can help me decide which is better by how I bet.

                                                    I mainly like to bet in $10-50 at a time so limits don't really bother me. I like e-sports a lot and I like props for major sports and basically like having a lot of options within games. I also like to live bet major sports. I mainly bet on my phone as well. Do you think Heritage would be good for me? Thanks in advance
                                                    play around with both... every sportsbook has pros/cons

                                                    heritage has more props for some sports, but i like live betting better on bookmaker
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                                                    • BrickJames
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 05-05-11
                                                      • 9749

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by littlekona
                                                      Taka a nap for few hours...maybe it will magically appear back during sleep
                                                      Hahahaha
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