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  • KingOfPlebs
    SBR Rookie
    • 11-14-18
    • 4

    #1
    (Graded Correctly) --- Bodog Lied About an Unsettled Bet
    Hey guys,

    I've used bodog for about 5 years. Mostly made NHL and UFC bets. I have never had a problem with any of their services until November 5th 2018.

    I had made a UFC 230 prop bet, Daniel Cormier vs Derick Lewis to go over 1.5rds.

    UFC fights start @ 5:00min and count down to zero each round. So 2:30min is the half mark of each round.

    Daniel beat Derick at 2:14 remaining in the 2nd round. Bodog had originally awarded this as a win. Then a few hours later as a loss. Then I contacted them via live chat and they sent it in to be reviewed. It was later then settled as a win...only to be resettled as a loss. This happened +5x since and I have called multiple times to talk to a rep. The official answer they gave me tonight over the phone was that the fight ended 1:19min into the 2nd round. Which is a lie.. you can watch the replay videos of the fight to see the time stamp. They lastly told me that they use a "site" for all official results and that they wouldn't consider looking at any proof I had.

    Am I crazy here or what. One customer service guy even told me he sees it as a clear win but doesn't understand why the bet is being flagged as a loss.





    Or you can watch it on YouTube at the 0:50 mark here https://youtu.be/SCaLh4OhEs0

    What can I do?
    Last edited by KingOfPlebs; 11-14-18, 11:46 PM.
  • Optional
    Administrator
    • 06-10-10
    • 60637

    #2
    UFC.com says the fight ended at 2:05 in round 2





    Are you trying to argue that that actually means it ended at the 2:55 minute mark of round 2, because UFC counts backwards?


    I don't know, so will link this thread to the MMA sub forum and see what the resident experts think...
    Last edited by Optional; 11-15-18, 12:59 AM.
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    • pretentiousGuy
      SBR High Roller
      • 09-13-18
      • 136

      #3
      Originally posted by Optional
      UFC.com says the fight ended at 2:05 in round 2





      Are you trying to argue that that actually means it ended at the 2:55 minute mark of round 2, because UFC counts backwards?


      I don't know, so will link this thread to the MMA sub forum and see what the resident experts think...
      Fight did not go over 1.5 rounds. OP is wrong.
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      • KingOfPlebs
        SBR Rookie
        • 11-14-18
        • 4

        #4
        Originally posted by Optional
        UFC.com says the fight ended at 2:05 in round 2





        Are you trying to argue that that actually means it ended at the 2:55 minute mark of round 2, because UFC counts backwards?


        I don't know, so will link this thread to the MMA sub forum and see what the resident experts think...

        I'll address UFC.com. they are notorious for having false info. Fighters heights and names along with reach are often incorrect. The post fight interview I linked which is owned by UFC itself shows the time stamp as you can see. So does virtually every other mma site.

        I'm arguing that it counts down from 5:00 so if the fight ended at 2:14 then it already passed the 2:30 mark which is the half point of a round.

        Can someone actually explain it if Im wrong. Because I don't see how I am. Especially when bodog can't even make up their minds.

        How is 2:14 not over the 1.5rds?
        Last edited by KingOfPlebs; 11-15-18, 01:23 AM.
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        • KingOfPlebs
          SBR Rookie
          • 11-14-18
          • 4

          #5
          5:00. 2:30 is half of 5 min.

          2:14 is beyond the half mark... Am I doing math wrong lol
          Last edited by KingOfPlebs; 11-15-18, 01:28 AM.
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          • pretentiousGuy
            SBR High Roller
            • 09-13-18
            • 136

            #6
            Originally posted by KingOfPlebs
            I'll address UFC.com. they are notorious for having false info. Fighters heights and names along with reach are often incorrect. The post fight interview I linked which is owned by UFC itself shows the time stamp as you can see. So does virtually every other mma site.

            I'm arguing that it counts down from 5:00 so if the fight ended at 2:14 then it already passed the 2:30 mark which is the half point of a round.

            Can someone actually explain it if Im wrong. Because I don't see how I am. Especially when bodog can't even make up their minds.

            How is 2:14 not over the 1.5rds?
            You've got it backwards. 5 min + 2 minutes and 14 seconds = 7 minutes and 14 seconds elapsed. 7:14 < 7:30. You're simply confused.
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            • Optional
              Administrator
              • 06-10-10
              • 60637

              #7
              Originally posted by KingOfPlebs


              I'll address UFC.com. they are notorious for having false info. Fighters heights and names along with reach are often incorrect. The post fight interview I linked which is owned by UFC itself shows the time stamp as you can see. So does virtually every other mma site.

              I'm arguing that it counts down from 5:00 so if the fight ended at 2:14 then it already passed the 2:30 mark which is the half point of a round.

              Can someone actually explain it if Im wrong. Because I don't see how I am. Especially when bodog can't even make up their minds.
              Ok, let's forget the time discrepancy for a moment.

              Below is a screenshot of 50 secs into that vid to show what you are talking about.

              Are you trying to argue that the 2:14 shown there actually means it ended at the 2:46 minute mark of round 2, because UFC counts backwards?






              Maybe someone who recorded the fight can double check the replay for us?
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              • pretentiousGuy
                SBR High Roller
                • 09-13-18
                • 136

                #8
                Originally posted by Optional
                Ok, let's forget the time discrepancy for a moment.

                Below is a screenshot of 50 secs into that vid to show what you are talking about.

                Are you trying to argue that the 2:14 shown there actually means it ended at the 2:46 minute mark of round 2, because UFC counts backwards?






                Maybe someone who recorded the fight can double check the replay for us?
                Counting down from 5:00 the fight ended at 2:46 of round 2. OP is wrong. End of story.
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                • Optional
                  Administrator
                  • 06-10-10
                  • 60637

                  #9
                  Don't worry, I see you edited the post I replied to confirm that's what you are saying after i read it.
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                  • Optional
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                    • 06-10-10
                    • 60637

                    #10
                    Originally posted by pretentiousGuy
                    Counting down from 5:00 the fight ended at 2:46 of round 2. OP is wrong. End of story.
                    Well, no. According to Bodog rules if the duration of the 2nd round was over 2:30, then the over 1.5 rounds win.


                    Anyone got a recording of the actual 2nd round handy for us?
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                    • LLXC
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 12-10-06
                      • 8972

                      #11
                      I just watched the fight off here: https://www.mma-core.com/videos/Dani...art_3/10248269

                      Bodog is correct.

                      The fight ended with about 2:47 left in the round, NOT after 2:47 minutes.
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                      • KingOfPlebs
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 11-14-18
                        • 4

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Optional
                        Ok, let's forget the time discrepancy for a moment.

                        Below is a screenshot of 50 secs into that vid to show what you are talking about.

                        Are you trying to argue that the 2:14 shown there actually means it ended at the 2:46 minute mark of round 2, because UFC counts backwards?






                        Maybe someone who recorded the fight can double check the replay for us?

                        Yeah. It finished one full round did it not? So we have the 1. It went for 2:46 in duration in round 2. 2:30 is half of 5min. So unless I'm retarded, 2:46 is greater than 2:30 in duration. Which means it's over 1.5rds
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                        • pretentiousGuy
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 09-13-18
                          • 136

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Optional
                          Well, no. According to Bodog rules if the duration of the 2nd round was over 2:30, then the over 1.5 rounds win.


                          Anyone got a recording of the actual 2nd round handy for us?
                          You, too, are confused. No offence. The total fight duration was 7:14. o1.5 = over7:30. I just watched it again. Once again, OP is wrong.
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                          • JoeCool20
                            SBR MVP
                            • 05-31-18
                            • 4440

                            #14
                            It must mean that they are saying he won at 2:14 INTO the second round. NOT with 2:14 LEFT in the second round.

                            You needed the time to go 2:30 or more INTO the second round.
                            Last edited by JoeCool20; 11-15-18, 01:53 AM.
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                            • Optional
                              Administrator
                              • 06-10-10
                              • 60637

                              #15
                              Originally posted by KingOfPlebs
                              Yeah. It finished one full round did it not? So we have the 1. It went for 2:46 in duration in round 2. 2:30 is half of 5min. So unless I'm retarded, 2:46 is greater than 2:30 in duration. Which means it's over 1.5rds

                              In all the days since this bet and in between your arguing, did you really not go find a replay and check this yourself???




                              Here is what the backwards counting UFC clock said just before he tapped out.

                              Is that now enough for you to accept the bet is graded correctly as a loser?

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                              • JoeCool20
                                SBR MVP
                                • 05-31-18
                                • 4440

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Optional
                                In all the days since this bet and in between your arguing, did you really not go find a replay and check this yourself???




                                Here is what the backwards counting UFC clock said just before he tapped out.

                                Is that now enough for you to accept the bet is graded correctly as a loser?




                                Well I'd say you just ended it. Just like the fight ended at 2:14 INTO the second round!!

                                He needed it to go 2:30 or more INTO the second round. It did not.
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                                • Shagdogy
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 06-16-10
                                  • 3564

                                  #17
                                  Why is this hard at all? Fight did not go over. Period. I lost a bet on that play too. It happens.
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                                  • JAKEPEAVY21
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 03-11-11
                                    • 29210

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Optional
                                    In all the days since this bet and in between your arguing, did you really not go find a replay and check this yourself???




                                    Here is what the backwards counting UFC clock said just before he tapped out.

                                    Is that now enough for you to accept the bet is graded correctly as a loser?

                                    no kidding, what an embarrassing thread and story. You would think the guy would watch the 2nd round before arguing that he won the bet and making a thread.
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                                    • dxp
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 10-06-18
                                      • 463

                                      #19
                                      the really weird part in all this is bodog repeatedly changing it back and forth. what the hell are they thinking?!
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                                      • PaperTrail07
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 08-29-08
                                        • 20423

                                        #20
                                        or you know....maybe watched the fight in general LOL....its actually impressive you had bodogVADA second guessing themselves LOL..
                                        Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                        no kidding, what an embarrassing thread and story. You would think the guy would watch the 2nd round before arguing that he won the bet and making a thread.
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                                        • JAKEPEAVY21
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 03-11-11
                                          • 29210

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by dxp
                                          the really weird part in all this is bodog repeatedly changing it back and forth. what the hell are they thinking?!
                                          Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                          or you know....maybe watched the fight in general LOL....its actually impressive you had bodogVADA second guessing themselves LOL..
                                          yep, the guy was so sure that he won, he convinced Bovada for a short time!!

                                          before arguing your case and saying any book lied to you on a public forum, be 100% sure you are right next time...
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                                          • Hugo de Naranja
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                                            • 04-14-16
                                            • 14140

                                            #22
                                            The official results posted are counting up from 0. I.e when McGregor Knocked Out Aldo in Thirteen seconds, the result was McGregor R1 KO (0:13) not McGregor R1 KO (4:47). In this instance, the fight ended 2 minutes and 14 seconds into Round 2. Since it did not get to the 2 minute and 30 second mark of Round 2, the fight went under the total of 1.5 rounds.
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