330 BTC pending withdrawal Cloudbet. Not responding

**Optional** · 02-08-19, 12:01 AM

Are you talking about over $1.1 million USD?

**BetJesus** · 02-08-19, 12:53 AM

Lol wtf?? 3 btc? Absolutely. Maybe 33 btc after a great month. I get it.

But who in their right mind would have 330 btc anywhere but in a cold wallet/online wallet???? Especially as it sinks, even if it will almost certainly bounce back??

**Optional** · 02-08-19, 01:57 AM

It appears that Cloudbet do not believe it is his account.

The OP had another person, with better English, contact them on his behalf. Cloudbet seem to be saying that this other person claimed it was their account. They are also pointing to VPN usage and have some issue with his wife as well.

The OP has also told them that he will accept 150BTC as full payment if they will just pay him.

**raiders72001** · 02-08-19, 02:49 AM

The above cases aren't the only problems at Cloudbet. They have free rolled others. Cloudbet has a chance to take $1m and they are taking it.

**TheMoneyShot** · 02-08-19, 02:55 AM

Why didn't the OP use a well known BTC site like Nitrogen? Especially with that kind of wager.

**raiders72001** · 02-08-19, 03:48 AM

Originally posted by TheMoneyShot

Why didn't the OP use a well known BTC site like Nitrogen? Especially with that kind of wager.

yep, sweat the game, not the payout.

**eaglesfan371** · 02-08-19, 05:12 AM

Cloudbet is a joke, stay far far far away from them. Theyâ€™ve been this bad for awhile. Big withdrawals, long delays. LONG. They made me wait 60 days for a $8000 withdraw (80 BTC) couple years back. Claim to accept 100 BTC bets.

They freeroll high rollers. Always.

**Bearrob** · 02-08-19, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by Swofty

Hello! This is me Swofty a Cloudbet user. Who is still waiting for my withdrawal!Now they have blocked me because I bet on Superbowl! While they are investigating. And my bet won also by the way. So they just said its cancelled and refunded. Easily Smiley so yes they blocked my account with no notice. And the reason when i asked why im blocked is that I bet on Superbowl.I had been nice and patient to them. But now this get really makes me worry and stress. 330 BTC is alot of money. That is for myself and for my family savings.To tell you the truth. I withdrawed on January 2, 2019 they asked me a documents. Which I gave right away. I gave them my drivers license ID. I gave them my tax document, and I even took a photo of myself holding a paper saying Cloudbet, my username Swofty and the date. I even gave them our marriage certificate, gave them water bill which is name of my wife and an ID of my wife. And then we both took a picture also holding our IDs together.I just want to get my rightful winnings. I deposited a total of 129 BTC in their website. And I never cheat or I never did something wrong. I just want to take my winnings and be happy. But now this makes me sick and I just dont know what to do. Since they are responding a robot like respond or an repeating answer everytime.I had been patient enough. Cloudbet guys knows that. And I just really want to take my winnings. Because I gave every documents I could give. And I had been a nice customer. Please. Just please give me my rightful winnings. Thank you so much. Albert, I am taking my chances that SBR will help me. I just really need my rightful winnings

Lot of guys I know had issues with the . Not even their registration is valid. Address stated on website was fake last year, don't know if changed..

**littlekona** · 02-08-19, 08:21 AM

Wow, that is nutz to have so much without doing research. Good luck as that is HUGE OP....For Btc you have to use Nirtogen, fairlay or Betcoin period!
Can SBR please update the in BTC held books. Fairlay should be added and Cloudbet (B-) needs a major down grade as does Jetwin(C+).
Here is my btc exclusive grades:
Nitrogen A
Fairlay B
Betcoin B
BetcoinRush C
Sportbet.IO D
Cloudbet D
Jetwin D

**Crusherrr** · 02-08-19, 08:27 AM

Hopefully they at least give the guy his deposits back. This is an insane amount of money to have with a non regulated bookmaker.

**lonnie55** · 02-08-19, 08:52 AM

Originally posted by Optional

It appears that Cloudbet do not believe it is his account.

The OP had another person, with better English, contact them on his behalf. Cloudbet seem to be saying that this other person claimed it was their account. They are also pointing to VPN usage and have some issue with his wife as well.

The OP has also told them that he will accept 150BTC as full payment if they will just pay him.

If I was the bookie this would have been the moment that would raise all red flags at the latest.

**vampire assassin** · 02-08-19, 01:17 PM

There is a monster thread on this at reddit sportsbook forum. It's not clear what Cloudbet's position is -- it looks like they are claiming he cheated at roulette.

I'd love to see the OP's transaction history.

**Pinocchio** · 02-08-19, 01:45 PM

It appears that Cloudbet do not believe it is his account.The OP had another person, with better English, contact them on his behalf. Cloudbet seem to be saying that this other person claimed it was their account. They are also pointing to VPN usage and have some issue with his wife as well.The OP has also told them that he will accept 150BTC as full payment if they will just pay him.

The other person claimed it was their account? I gotta try this myself. When someone posts their username on here and mentions their book by name, I'm gonna contact those guys and say it's MY account. Should work wonders.

Do they intend to pay that person instead? VPN? Wife? Yep, legit reasons for stealing 150 BTC!

**Optional** · 02-08-19, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by lonnie55

If I was the bookie this would have been the moment that would raise all red flags at the latest.

I agree.

That is a no-win thing to suggest.

Books mention it as evidence the person is not bona fide just about any time a player says it. :\

Even though "something" weird appears to be going on here with this player, it very much looks like Cloudbet can see that and are taking advantage of the situation to go fishing for a reason to justify confiscation.

**raiders72001** · 02-08-19, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by littlekona

Wow, that is nutz to have so much without doing research. Good luck as that is HUGE OP....For Btc you have to use Nirtogen, fairlay or Betcoin period!
Can SBR please update the in BTC held books. Fairlay should be added and Cloudbet (B-) needs a major down grade as does Jetwin(C+).
Here is my btc exclusive grades:
Nitrogen A
Fairlay B
Betcoin B
BetcoinRush C
Sportbet.IO D
Cloudbet D
Jetwin D

I think your ratings are very good. The Jetwin sportsbook has been down for a while. Cloudbet has become a joke. They make up all kinds of excuses.

**raiders72001** · 02-08-19, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by Optional

I agree.

That is a no-win thing to suggest.

Books mention it as evidence the person is not bona fide just about any time a player says it. :\

Even though "something" weird appears to be going on here with this player, it very much looks like Cloudbet can see that and are taking advantage of the situation to go fishing for a reason to justify confiscation.

I don't understand why a BTC/BCH book wants personal information.

**Optional** · 02-08-19, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by raiders72001

I don't understand why a BTC/BCH book wants personal information.

Or why they would take a half million dollar deposit and not do checks immediately, if it is your normal procedure to check people.

**raiders72001** · 02-08-19, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Or why they would take a half million dollar deposit and not do checks immediately, if it is your normal procedure to check people.

Free roll.

**infotimbo** · 02-08-19, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by Pinocchio

The other person claimed it was their account? I gotta try this myself. When someone posts their username on here and mentions their book by name, I'm gonna contact those guys and say it's MY account. Should work wonders.

Do they intend to pay that person instead? VPN? Wife? Yep, legit reasons for stealing 150 BTC!

Swofty explained that elsewhere in one of the many other topics about this:

"I'm sorry that my friend is causing this confusion. He wasn't trying to take ownership but I had him talk so I didn't misunderstand English. He was telling me what was being said.
So he was just trying to help and since you mention him as a problem I have told him no more I will take my. Chances with English."

**Limited** · 02-08-19, 07:59 PM

If all is truth, they even don't deserve D rating but a prison.

**JaimeMiro** · 02-08-19, 09:32 PM

Originally posted by littlekona

Wow, that is nutz to have so much without doing research. Good luck as that is HUGE OP....For Btc you have to use Nirtogen, fairlay or Betcoin period!
Can SBR please update the in BTC held books. Fairlay should be added and Cloudbet (B-) needs a major down grade as does Jetwin(C+).
Here is my btc exclusive grades:
Nitrogen A
Fairlay B
Betcoin B
BetcoinRush C
Sportbet.IO D
Cloudbet D
Jetwin D

Nitrogen A?!
Nope; B, B-
Users always complaining about grading problems otherwise one of the best.
Would have betcoin on C, C- as their Sportsbook can sometimes go down for months...

**JaimeMiro** · 02-08-19, 09:40 PM

Cloudbet was just looking for a loophole and found one: 1. They've got no reason to verify his identity as Nitro, Cloudbet pride themselves for being incognito, hence no need for I.D. 2. They could just send it back to the original BTC depositing address - if he still has control. Or he could send them proof of the deposit.

**raiders72001** · 02-09-19, 12:05 AM

Originally posted by JaimeMiro

Nitrogen A?!
Nope; B, B-
Users always complaining about grading problems otherwise one of the best.
Would have betcoin on C, C- as their Sportsbook can sometimes go down for months...

Jetwin goes down for months. A year back or so Betcoin had problems going up and down but that hasn't happened in approximately a year.

**danwinkler** · 02-09-19, 12:25 AM

Originally posted by TheMoneyShot

Why didn't the OP use a well known BTC site like Nitrogen? Especially with that kind of wager.

Nitrogen i a joke if you are high roller. If you win they cut you pretty bad.

**danwinkler** · 02-09-19, 12:29 AM

Originally posted by Swofty

Hello! This is me Swofty a Cloudbet user. Who is still waiting for my withdrawal!Now they have blocked me because I bet on Superbowl! While they are investigating. And my bet won also by the way. So they just said its cancelled and refunded. Easily Smiley so yes they blocked my account with no notice. And the reason when i asked why im blocked is that I bet on Superbowl.I had been nice and patient to them. But now this get really makes me worry and stress. 330 BTC is alot of money. That is for myself and for my family savings.To tell you the truth. I withdrawed on January 2, 2019 they asked me a documents. Which I gave right away. I gave them my drivers license ID. I gave them my tax document, and I even took a photo of myself holding a paper saying Cloudbet, my username Swofty and the date. I even gave them our marriage certificate, gave them water bill which is name of my wife and an ID of my wife. And then we both took a picture also holding our IDs together.I just want to get my rightful winnings. I deposited a total of 129 BTC in their website. And I never cheat or I never did something wrong. I just want to take my winnings and be happy. But now this makes me sick and I just dont know what to do. Since they are responding a robot like respond or an repeating answer everytime.I had been patient enough. Cloudbet guys knows that. And I just really want to take my winnings. Because I gave every documents I could give. And I had been a nice customer. Please. Just please give me my rightful winnings. Thank you so much. Albert, I am taking my chances that SBR will help me. I just really need my rightful winnings

edited to remove my comment. they have my personal information and dont want to get in trouble.

**TheMoneyShot** · 02-09-19, 04:47 AM

Originally posted by danwinkler

Nitrogen i a joke if you are high roller. If you win they cut you pretty bad.

Well... it's the only reputable book we have.... when wagering in BTC. I can't tell if this guy laid 500k??? Or what???

I sure as hell wouldn't trust some fly by night BTC book. I like Fairlay a lot... but don't know if I'd trust them with 500k.

And if Nitrogen screwed me over... so be it... word would get out fast.

**Bearrob** · 02-09-19, 04:50 AM

I have 37k stuck at cloudbet for year. Went so far even paid visit to their "location" in Montenegro which was abandoned house. I went step further and realised that even their license isn't valid, that it's fake so basically they can do whatever they want
Don't let limits and offer lure you into trap, it's just moment when they will steal from you. There is plenty reports of that on other forums as well so be careful with them.

**jjgold** · 02-09-19, 07:38 AM

cloudbet???

zero reason ever to play there

**lonnie55** · 02-09-19, 07:43 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

cloudbet???

zero reason ever to play there

a hundred reasons to play there but your horizon is just too narrow to see that

**Limited** · 02-09-19, 07:56 AM

Originally posted by lonnie55

a hundred reasons to play there but your horizon is just too narrow to see that

Not paying winning players and stealing money?

**littlekona** · 02-09-19, 11:04 AM

I saw on another forum they paid him 54, 50 and 41 BTC on consecutive days towards end of last year then rejected the next few bigger ones...Crazy amount of funds being moved. https://imgur.com/a/6CTO03Z

Also interesting to see that the screen shot shows a VPN connection

**themike78** · 02-09-19, 11:09 AM

Unbelievable that someone would have that kind of money in a sportsbook. I don't care how rich you are that is foolish. I wouldn't even trust a licenced bitcoin exchange with that amount of money. Why not just cash it out and turn it to dollars? I get nervous if I have just a thousand worth of bitcoin in these places.

**danwinkler** · 02-10-19, 03:19 PM

My ventures with bitcoin books ended as fast as it as it started. All of them seem to be operating eerily similar to the canadian exchange that just went belly up, quadrigacx. All with addresses that doesn't exit, ghost owners, 2 or 3 customer service handling everything on forums etc. It works because most bettors lose. These books don't have liquidity to pay everyone if there is a panic and mass withdrawal request

**littlekona** · 02-10-19, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by danwinkler

My ventures with bitcoin books ended as fast as it as it started. All of them seem to be operating eerily similar to the canadian exchange that just went belly up, quadrigacx. All with addresses that doesn't exit, ghost owners, 2 or 3 customer service handling everything on forums etc. It works because most bettors lose. These books don't have liquidity to pay everyone if there is a panic and mass withdrawal request

Nitrogen, betcoin and Fairlay do have liquidity to pay and are the only btc held you should ever use. Fairlay even has way to see proof of reserves which is pretty cool https://fairlay.com/proof-of-reserves/

In offshore world anything can happen eventually and you can trust until something happens and then you cant...Any book Fiat included is not 100% safe. Use black friday in poker as example