can you use a vpn to bet @ out of state books?

[MrAllin]

has anyone tried using a vpn to make it appear u are in newjersey or some other state that allows mobile wagering?

[Optional]

Their license to offer online betting was dependent on a foolproof system to ring fence in-state players.

I don't know if it is beatable, but there is so much to lose for them if so that I highly doubt it is possible.

If you find a way then you can probably get the whole state's online system shut down by publicizing it.

[BrickJames]

Just use 5dime, bookmaker or youwager.

Problem solved

[bonzaii]

has anyone tried using a vpn to make it appear u are in newjersey or some other state that allows mobile wagering?

Easier to do the opposite and play offshore even if your in one of the states that offshore doesn't accept anymore. Just find a family member or a friend.

[thespeculator]

Easier to do the opposite and play offshore even if your in one of the states that offshore doesn't accept anymore. Just find a family member or a friend.

I am sure some people are acting as "brokers' already. on a small scale . Of course you would have to trust the person

[Crusherrr]

You can't use VPN because it uses geolocation.

That being said, geolocation can't even pinpoint you in the right state most of the time.

[MrAllin]

Just use 5dime, bookmaker or youwager.

Problem solved

none of those books offer no score defensive td prop on football games like bet365 does

[BrickJames]

none of those books offer no score defensive td prop on football games like bet365 does

Bet365 is trash.

[Craig22]

Bet365 is trash.

If you can't win on bet365, then why play exactly.

[BrickJames]

If you can't win on bet365, then why play exactly.

Good luck playing at bet365, they are far worse then any good offshore.

Just wait until you win. They will want more info from you than the IRS

[TwitchySeal]

Don't even bother attempting to get around NJ geolocation software. They take it very seriously. In May Hardrock had some sort of glitch and accepted a single bet from outside NJ. NJDGE was watching and fined them $25k. It's basically impossible though.

Good luck playing at bet365, they are far worse then any good offshore.
Just wait until you win. They will want more info from you than the IRS

Requested my first cashout from Bet365 on Monday at 7am. It was in my Skrill in less than 2 hours.

So far I think DraftKings has the best software and BetAmerica has the best welcome bonus (up to $1k cash refund if your first bet loses).

[Crusherrr]

So far I think DraftKings has the best software and BetUSA has the best welcome bonus (up to $1k cash refund if your first bet loses).

I'm guessing you mean BetAmerica. BetUSA is an offshore site.

[TwitchySeal]

I'm guessing you mean BetAmerica. BetUSA is an offshore site.

Ooops. Yes.

[jjgold]

only way to do is leave a computer and or ipad on in a legal state then you can remotely log in with a place like team viewer from a computer and or phone...your just basically then betting from home in a legal state once you connect to your home device

[stackz125]

Bet365 withdraw. Into your bank chequing account in 2 days!

[semibluff]

Geo-location detection can be beaten by a vpn if you're prepared to seek out a vpn that will give you a specific area vpn. Several vpn operators offer multiple US locations. Beating geo-location detection only requires you to be patient and careful, (IE check the vpn IP address before you use it). I'm not in the US and I don't have any experience with trying to bet with a New Jersey book. My 'guess' is that if they're serious about blocking outside location gamblers then they'd automatically block any IP address that shows up as a vpn. Thus Geo-location evasion wouldn't work.

I'm not sure why anyone would really want to take the vpn risk with a sizeable bankroll. Are the benefits so good they outweigh the risk of having funds seized?

[Optional]

Geo-location detection can be beaten by a vpn if you're prepared to seek out a vpn that will give you a specific area vpn. Several vpn operators offer multiple US locations. Beating geo-location detection only requires you to be patient and careful, (IE check the vpn IP address before you use it). I'm not in the US and I don't have any experience with trying to bet with a New Jersey book. My 'guess' is that if they're serious about blocking outside location gamblers then they'd automatically block any IP address that shows up as a vpn. Thus Geo-location evasion wouldn't work.

I'm not sure why anyone would really want to take the vpn risk with a sizeable bankroll. Are the benefits so good they outweigh the risk of having funds seized?

I believe NJ books make you install an app that can see past that sort of stuff.

It may even block JJs Teamviewer solution possibly.

[TwitchySeal]

I believe NJ books make you install an app that can see past that sort of stuff.

It may even block JJs Teamviewer solution possibly.

Yeah, if you start Teamviewer while logged in it will auto kick you.

You also have to be within range of at least 3 other wifi signals that they use to figure out your exact location.

[EVPlus]

To the OP and anyone else thinking about this: Don't bother.

It doesn't matter how patient or clever you are (or think you are) or what vpn you use.

Spend the time and energy hitting 55% winners consistently - which is challenging enough.

[jjgold]

I’m surprise team viewer wouldn’t work, you’re logging into your own home computer


No VPN work it’s impossible

[acquavallo]

I’m surprise team viewer wouldn’t work, you’re logging into your own home computer


No VPN work it’s impossible

They can check for any remote logging software.

[DontTailMe]

I’m surprise team viewer wouldn’t work, you’re logging into your own home computer


No VPN work it’s impossible

Teamviewer is installed on the remote machine and a process has to be running on it in order for you to log in. It's definitely not transparent.

[Optional]

Teamviewer is installed on the remote machine and a process has to be running on it in order for you to log in. It's definitely not transparent.

It is transparent usually.

But you have to install the Geocomply plugin to spy on your machine to play in New Jersey and it can see anything happening on your device.

Kind of like a trojan rebranded into something legal companies use.

Glad I am not in Jersey

[ThaWoj]

Louisiana sucks, can't even use fan duel or draft kings. Wish I could take advantage of some of these bonus promos.

Will just have to keep using off shore or driving to biloxi I guess.

[DontTailMe]

It is transparent usually.

But you have to install the Geocomply plugin to spy on your machine to play in New Jersey and it can see anything happening on your device.

Kind of like a trojan rebranded into something legal companies use.

Glad I am not in Jersey

I think we are just using the word "transparent" differently here. What I mean is, there is a process running on your remote machine. A software program (or a person) can detect that if they go looking for it. Thus, it's not transparent.

[Roscoe_Word]

To the OP and anyone else thinking about this: Don't bother.

It doesn't matter how patient or clever you are (or think you are) or what vpn you use.

Spend the time and energy hitting 55% winners consistently - which is challenging enough.

Good point.

[Optional]

I think we are just using the word "transparent" differently here. What I mean is, there is a process running on your remote machine. A software program (or a person) can detect that if they go looking for it. Thus, it's not transparent.

There is no way possible to detect the operation of TeamViewer on a PC remotely, without having some sort of software installed with permissions to see it. Like the NJ books are using on customers.

[DontTailMe]

There is no way possible to detect the operation of TeamViewer on a PC remotely, without having some sort of software installed with permissions to see it. Like the NJ books are using on customers.

We're still talking past each other. The bolded is precisely what I'm talking about.

Let's start over: A poster upthread expressed surprise that TV didn't work. I explained that there is a process running on the machine, which a software program (or a person) can detect. I said nothing about that program NOT running on the remote machine itself.

My initial comment was based on the common understanding that these casinos do, in fact, require the download of geo location software...since it's mentioned all over this thread. My fault for not mentioning it again.

[Optional]

We're still talking past each other. The bolded is precisely what I'm talking about. People upthread expressed surprise that TV didn't work. I explained that there is a process running on the machine, which a software program (or a person) can detect. I said nothing about that program NOT running on the remote machine itself.

My initial post is based on the common understanding that these casinos do, in fact, require the download of geo location software.

Ah ok. I was simply saying that TeamViewer is usually transparent to remote detection.

But your last line is a bit weird. AFAIK Nevada has never forced a spyware download on players to ensure location. They use a different sort of system.

Where else do you think books ask you to install a spyware app before being able to play on a computer?

[DontTailMe]

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Ah ok. I was simply saying that TeamViewer is usually transparent to remote detection.

But your last line is a bit weird. AFAIK Nevada has never forced a spyware download on players to ensure location. They use a different sort of system.

Where else do you think books ask you to install a spyware app before being able to play on a computer?

I am not familiar with what NV books do. If they don't require geo software download, then I have no idea how they're preventing remote desktop access - because that sort of information should certainly NOT be available to a website running within a browser. it would be interesting to get confirmation from someone who plays in NV that this is indeed the case.

Edit: I found this interesting link where someone is checking the bits of color being used by the browser, as the answer is different when the browser is running in remote session. Perhaps NV is using some clever hack such as this, if it's true that they don't require software download. However, as the coder mentions, this can produce false positives (although its better for them to be more restrictive than less, from a regulatory compliance perspective). False positives could be why newer casinos are moving towards an installed product, for better accuracy? Who knows.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3417883/how-to-detect-from-browser-if-user-is-running-in-remote-desktop-session

[Optional]

I am not familiar with what NV books do. If they don't require geo software download, then I have no idea how they're preventing remote desktop access - because that sort of information should certainly NOT be available to a website running within a browser. it would be interesting to get confirmation from someone who plays in NV that this is indeed the case.

Edit: I found this interesting link where someone is checking the bits of color being used by the browser, as the answer is different when the browser is running in remote session. Perhaps NV is using some clever hack such as this, if it's true that they don't require software download. However, as the coder mentions, this can produce false positives (although its better for them to be more restrictive than less, from a regulatory compliance perspective). False positives could be why newer casinos are moving towards an installed product, for better accuracy? Who knows.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/...esktop-session

Nevada apps wont allow betting if wifi as well as data is turned on as their main way to prevent remote desktop apps working.

Some international books "quietly" install a product called iesnare on user machines. But that does not have full access and is used in a diferent way than location ring fencing.

As far as I am aware, this ring fence system is a first in NJ.