Dafabet does not pay my 48669EUR

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  • bigdog11
    SBR Rookie
    • 02-26-11
    • 48

    #1
    Dafabet does not pay my 48669EUR
    I Wilhelm Fazer asked for a withdrawal and Dafabet asked why there was mismatch between my Skrill account and the one where deposits were made. This was due that my Skrill account was in frozen state so I deposited with another Skrill account.

    When asking for a letter of consent a letter of consent was sent. Later this was asked to be signed it was signed and resent. Further was asked which transactions was given consent this was also told to Dafabet support.

    Withdrawal attempts have been made but they have been ignored. On behalf of Dafabet has been told that this is not allowed to use another Skrill account to make deposits to my account. Really? What if I would have lost the money?

    Changing name of account as asked by Dafabet support would make Skrill account and name of account match each other. I find that bookmakers always find excuses to trying to get away with customers money. When deposits were made Dafabet did not say anything.

    I have in addition filled a complaint form tell me please if SBR moderators received it.
    Last edited by bigdog11; 09-24-19, 10:31 AM.
  • Optional
    Administrator
    • 06-10-10
    • 60642

    #2
    Anti Money Laundering rules say that bookmakers should not accept third party deposits. That is normal and not them making it up.

    How much of the 48k was deposited funds and how much winnings?
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    • bigdog11
      SBR Rookie
      • 02-26-11
      • 48

      #3
      Most where winnings.
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      • moojoo
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 09-02-16
        • 938

        #4
        Kiss goodbye,illegal activity. If they pay you out then everybody could do this stunts.
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        • Optional
          Administrator
          • 06-10-10
          • 60642

          #5
          Originally posted by bigdog11
          Most where winnings.


          Maybe consult a lawyer and see if they think there is an angle to fight it?

          I'd doubt you or SBR will be able to convince them to change their mind by just talking.
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          • d741256198
            SBR Rookie
            • 09-23-19
            • 5

            #6
            Originally posted by bigdog11
            Changing name of account to Erik as asked by Dafabet support would make Skrill account and name of account match each other. I find that bookmakers always find excuses to trying to get away with customers money. When deposits were made Dafabet did not say anything.
            Wait what? Dafabet told you to change the name you registered the account under? Or the name on the skrill acct?

            None of those should EVER be allowed, let alone be requested by dafabet. I find this part particularly hard to believe, but if it did happen, this is something you should take up with the regulator, at least. Since you said you only needed to change Erik for the match, I assume you were playing with a relative's skrill. Has your relative had any accounts with the dafa group? If he did, don't even try to pursue the money, you have 0,0% chance of getting anything, aside your deposit back. If not, you could try with a lawyer, but your chances are pretty low.


            Oh and on a side note: Why was your skrill frozen? I've been using skrill forever and haven't had any issues with them [aside the notoriously shitty support].
            Last edited by d741256198; 09-23-19, 11:28 PM.
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            • Alfa1234
              SBR MVP
              • 12-19-15
              • 2722

              #7
              So to summarise...you have multiple Skrill accounts in different names so you are buying accounts. You probably have multiple Dafabet accounts and messed up by using the wrong Skrill account to fund a Dafabet account with a different name. You only noticed after you wanted to withdraw. Now you ask for help getting the money back. Good luck with that.
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              • bigdog11
                SBR Rookie
                • 02-26-11
                • 48

                #8
                One Skrill account. Only issue here was that deposit was made with my friends account because my Skrill account was frozen.
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                • bigdog11
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 02-26-11
                  • 48

                  #9
                  Account for Skrill deposits was obviously not the same account name. So they asked me whether I would want to change account name to match Skrill name. Now in procedure of doing that. My Skrill was frozen thats why I used my friends Skrill.
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                  • lonnie55
                    SBR MVP
                    • 04-08-16
                    • 2689

                    #10
                    You still didn't answer the question why your Skrill account is/was frozen
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                    • bigdog11
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 02-26-11
                      • 48

                      #11
                      Inactive for a long time.
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                      • horja1
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-13-11
                        • 5646

                        #12
                        "7.2 If you use a payment method in respect of which you are not the Account holder, we reserve the right to treat any deposit into the Account as being invalid (and any winnings arising from such deposit as void) pending the satisfactory completion of all relevant Checks as per Clause 5.2."

                        "5.2 By agreeing to these Terms, you authorise us to undertake any such verification checks from time to time as we may require ourselves or may be required by third parties (including, but not limited to, regulatory bodies) to confirm these facts (the "Checks"). You agree that from time to time, upon our request, you may be required to provide additional details in respect of any of such information you have provided us, including in relation to any deposits which you have made into your Account."
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                        • Alfa1234
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-19-15
                          • 2722

                          #13
                          Originally posted by bigdog11
                          Account for Skrill deposits was obviously not the same account name. So they asked me whether I would want to change account name to match Skrill name. Now in procedure of doing that. My Skrill was frozen thats why I used my friends Skrill.
                          Sure, and I suppose your "friend" account got funded in a normal way like a bank transfer by that friend and you simply paid him back including the fees (obviously not through Skill as yours was frozen). No skrill to skrill peer to peer transaction involved at all. It never occured to you to simply fund your Dafabet account in another way, bypassing Skrill. Also, your Skrill was inactive for a long time...so it got frozen. You could have simply logged in to activate it again...and then usde some normal means to fund it. Presumably the same way you paid back your friend (you can even buy Paysafecards with cash to fund a Skrill account...).

                          Come on dude, if it quacks like a duck, looks like a duck and smells like a duck, it's usually just a duck. You were multiaccounting and did something stupid. Live with it.
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                          • lonnie55
                            SBR MVP
                            • 04-08-16
                            • 2689

                            #14
                            I just don't see the reason for multi-accounting at Dafa. Is it for bonus? Or for the soft odds? But why did you accumulate such a large balance then?

                            Multiaccounting at Dafa doesn't make sense to me TBH
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                            • bigdog11
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 02-26-11
                              • 48

                              #15
                              Originally posted by lonnie55
                              I just don't see the reason for multi-accounting at Dafa. Is it for bonus? Or for the soft odds? But why did you accumulate such a large balance then?

                              Multiaccounting at Dafa doesn't make sense to me TBH
                              No multiaccounting. Deposits made for around 20k also and had account for a long time.
                              Last edited by bigdog11; 09-24-19, 05:38 PM.
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                              • Optional
                                Administrator
                                • 06-10-10
                                • 60642

                                #16
                                Originally posted by lonnie55
                                You still didn't answer the question why your Skrill account is/was frozen
                                Originally posted by bigdog11
                                Inactive for a long time.
                                Had the same issue.

                                Was easy to re-verify and get it back open for me.
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                                • bigdog11
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 02-26-11
                                  • 48

                                  #17
                                  As I told only thing I did and it was because of sloppiness not trying to cheat

                                  If I want to bet something at a certain day and I have funds on a Skrill account and no on a Neteller account which one am I gonna use?


                                  17:09:04 [Jennelyn] Welcome to Dafabet Customer Support!

                                  17:09:05 [w] Player is from EWC

                                  17:09:08 [Jennelyn] Hi! This is Jennelyn from Dafabet VIP Support. How can I help you?


                                  17:09:17 [w] Hi I have provided everything for withdrawal

                                  17:09:28 [Jennelyn] I can definitely assist you with your withdrawal concern.


                                  17:09:31 [Jennelyn] Can I have your username and date of birth please?

                                  17:09:37 [w] XXX

                                  17:09:40 [w] X/XX1985

                                  17:09:46 [Jennelyn] Thank you for your account information.

                                  17:10:08 [Jennelyn] Please stay on chat for about 3-5 minutes while checking your account.


                                  17:11:36 [Jennelyn] Thank you for patiently waiting.

                                  17:12:15 [Jennelyn] Upon checking your withdrawal amounting to 8000 INR was declined due to email and name mismatched on your skrill account.

                                  17:12:31 [w] Yes letter of consent was sent upon request

                                  17:14:33 [Jennelyn] When did you send that consent?

                                  17:14:43 [w] Erik sent it yesterday

                                  17:15:02 [Jennelyn] I see. Please continue to stay on chat for another 3-5 minutes.

                                  17:26:14 [Jennelyn] Thank you for patiently waiting.

                                  17:27:13 [Jennelyn] Upon coordianting with our security team you need to submit a signed letter of your consent along with your documents.

                                  17:28:05 [w] Letter of consent was sent already yesterday.

                                  17:30:12 [Jennelyn] We have not received the consent that you have send.

                                  17:30:21 [Jennelyn] Can you please resend it again.

                                  17:31:14 [w] I can ask him yes
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                                  • bigdog11
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 02-26-11
                                    • 48

                                    #18
                                    Dear Wilhelm,


                                    Thank you for choosing Dafabet!

                                    With regard to your name change request, please be informed that you need to use your own Skrill account as we do not allow our players to use different name for security purposes. If your account is frozen, please go to https://www.skrill.com/en/support and contact them to unfreeze your account.
                                    If you need further assistance, please do not hesitate to let us know.

                                    You can contact us through our "Live Chat" facility. To help us improve our service, simply login to your account before clicking the “Live Chat” button to be directed to the correct Customer Support representative. Alternatively, you can call us through our International Toll Free Number:

                                    International Call: +63 2 889 0931
                                    International Toll Free: IAC + 800-7423-2274
                                    Online Live chat support



                                    Best regards,


                                    Dafabet Customer Support
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                                    • Brooklyn
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 11-26-08
                                      • 121

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by bigdog11
                                      Most where winnings.
                                      Originally posted by bigdog11
                                      No multiaccounting. Deposits made for around 20k also and had account for a long time.
                                      So first this guy says most of his ending balance were winnings.

                                      And then just a few posts later: that he made 20k of deposits, which is almost half of his balance.
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                                      • bigdog11
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 02-26-11
                                        • 48

                                        #20
                                        Yes around 30 k winnings just under 20 k deposits.
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                                        • LobStarMX
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 09-09-19
                                          • 19

                                          #21
                                          Whats your point? Still 30k winnings, which is why he said most were winnings.
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                                          • bigdog11
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 02-26-11
                                            • 48

                                            #22
                                            Just zero sympathy mate. I am from Finland not exactly known to be a country of scammers.
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                                            • Alfa1234
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-19-15
                                              • 2722

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by bigdog11
                                              17:12:15 [Jennelyn] Upon checking your withdrawal amounting to 8000 INR was declined due to email and name mismatched on your skrill account.
                                              Hey there Dafabet support! I'm a Finnish guy that funded my account through my friends Skrill in Indian Rupee. Tiny mistake there, but would you be so kind to let me change my account name so I can withdraw that money? Thanks!

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                                              • moojoo
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 09-02-16
                                                • 938

                                                #24
                                                Pay the man
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                                                • lonnie55
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 04-08-16
                                                  • 2689

                                                  #25
                                                  Why would he ask for a payout worth €103 when having a balance of €48,669?
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                                                  • bigdog11
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 02-26-11
                                                    • 48

                                                    #26
                                                    I have no idea why she wrote like that in live chat I can see you are referring to INR.
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                                                    • lonnie55
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 04-08-16
                                                      • 2689

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by bigdog11
                                                      I have no idea why she wrote like that in live chat I can see you are referring to INR.
                                                      Probably because she is an Indian working for an Indian call or customer-care center
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                                                      • bigdog11
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 02-26-11
                                                        • 48

                                                        #28
                                                        I want to also bring to your attention about what happened to a member of a Finnish betting forum written by alias nxkarhu. Please use google translate for link provided below. In brief.

                                                        nxkarhu deposited 160EUR on site with 50 % bonus and had a winning streak which yielded this amount to 2582,99EUR. After following the Terms and Conditions of bonus he tried to withdraw 400EUR and he got and response from live chat : 9. Collusion, Cheating, Fraud and Criminal Activity


                                                        9. Collusion, Cheating, Fraud and Criminal Activity

                                                        9.1 The following practices (or any of them) in relation to the Services:


                                                        • abuse of bonuses or other promotions; and/or

                                                        • using unfair external factors or influences (commonly known as cheating); and/or

                                                        • taking unfair advantage (as defined in paragraph 9.5.3);

                                                        • undertaking fraudulent practice or criminal activity (as defined in paragraph 9.5),



                                                        Dafabet has a Phillipines license which is not a strong and claiming that someone cheats on Champions League bets is absurd (big markets, transparent).
                                                        Finally in last mail Although, the decision regarding the confiscation of the bonuses on your account do not affect your account would be just a proof that they stole his money.

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