Please Help: I Want to Choose Wisely This Time

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  • BJohnsonace
    SBR Rookie
    • 11-19-19
    • 23

    #1
    Please Help: I Want to Choose Wisely This Time
    Hello Everyone

    What I'm asking here is everyone's help in deciding the best place to take my action SHOULD I decide to return to online sports betting.

    To sum myself up as a better, I bet on one sport: Boxing, boxing, boxing, & boxing; and I do so by betting, except for the rare occasions, on Parlays ranging to usually 4/more lines of action per slip, close action Parlays at that (usually on money lines that aren't in the thousands but instead in the close, low hundreds (American Odds)). I usually like to play with thousands of dollars, highest I'd be willing to go for a wager is $10,000 but that's extremely rare. Lowest I expect/wish to play with is $1000-$2000.

    Where do you all recommend I look to take my action?

    I need a book that's honest and transparent. Trust is PARAMOUNT; I don't play when it comes to the subjects of integrity and money so I don't want any book that has a history of messing with honest players' money, specifically winnings. Relatively quick payouts would be great but I'll take reliability over speed any day of the week. The book MUST have a variety of close boxing action (low hundred money lines, e.g. +200 vs -300) and not just offer the big fights only.

    Looking at Bovada - like what they offer in terms of variety. Are they legit and honest? Do they purposely hold up/delay payouts?

    Please help, because before I didn't know of this forum and the multitude of wisdom it held before placing my first action online, so now I wish to consult more seasoned players as to where I should look for a better betting experience.

    Thank you for taking the time to read my post, and I appreciate your responses in advance.
  • Crusherrr
    SBR MVP
    • 06-27-16
    • 3646

    #2
    My best guess would be Bookmaker and possibly BetOnline. I don't think you will get high enough limits at Heritage for boxing.

    I'd trust Bovada but they also may not have high enough limits for boxing.
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    • BJohnsonace
      SBR Rookie
      • 11-19-19
      • 23

      #3
      @Crusherrr

      Do you feel comfortable sending these books your sensitive info as well? Talking about picture of ID and copy of utility bill for address and whatnot.
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      • Crusherrr
        SBR MVP
        • 06-27-16
        • 3646

        #4
        Originally posted by BJohnsonace
        @Crusherrr

        Do you feel comfortable sending these books your sensitive info as well? Talking about picture of ID and copy of utility bill for address and whatnot.
        I have, yes. Bookmaker would be your best choice and it's not close. I'd trust them with a million. They seem to always do the right thing, have super high limits, 2 hours bitcoin payouts, reliable, fair and A+ rated. You would have to make sure they can take your boxing parlays though. I'm not knowledgeable about what books offer for that.
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        • PD77
          SBR MVP
          • 12-11-09
          • 2381

          #5
          From the books you’ve named is it safe to say you’re looking for a US facing book? If so I’d have to agree with Crusherrr and say bookmaker. Not sure if they accept that kind of action on boxing but if they don’t I don’t know of another book that would.
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          • Shifty
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 08-10-08
            • 558

            #6
            5 Dimes has more boxing and lower juice than the others but I wouldn't rate them that high for integrity and trust. Limits might be a problem too.
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            • BJohnsonace
              SBR Rookie
              • 11-19-19
              • 23

              #7
              @Shifty

              May I ask why you say that about 5 Dimes?
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              • hustledouble
                SBR High Roller
                • 11-26-13
                • 189

                #8
                Originally posted by Crusherrr
                My best guess would be Bookmaker and possibly BetOnline. I don't think you will get high enough limits at Heritage for boxing.

                I'd trust Bovada but they also may not have high enough limits for boxing.
                If he's sharp there is no way Bovada is going to take 4 figure bets on boxing from him for long.

                Bookmaker is your best US facing option
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                • BJohnsonace
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 11-19-19
                  • 23

                  #9
                  I'll check out Bookmaker and Bovada. Will have extensive conversations with these guys about their lines and wager limits. Don't want any surprises this time around. It's about establishing a relationship of trust on both ends, not one sided trust
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                  • BJohnsonace
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 11-19-19
                    • 23

                    #10
                    @hustledouble

                    Thank you for the insight. Will definitely keep that in mind.
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                    • Shifty
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 08-10-08
                      • 558

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BJohnsonace
                      @Shifty

                      May I ask why you say that about 5 Dimes?
                      Read some of the complaints on here about 5D. They'll shortchange you on Bitcoin deposits whenever they can get away with it. Players have been getting bets cancelled for "bad lines" that really aren't bad. Their linesman gets sloppy and instead of honoring bets they blame the player for betting a bad line. The real A+ books won't do that to you.

                      That said, they are good for boxing. Limits are low everywhere if you bet fights early in the week so you will need a few outs to get down.
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                      • arie1985
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-19-08
                        • 1611

                        #12
                        Use Stake.com

                        1) They have higher limits than Pinnacle, at least for now.
                        2) They process withdrawals instantly, literally.
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                        • BJohnsonace
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 11-19-19
                          • 23

                          #13
                          @arie1985

                          Never heard of them, nor do I see them rated here on SBR. Makes me a little uncomfortable.
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                          • BJohnsonace
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 11-19-19
                            • 23

                            #14
                            @Shifty

                            Yeah, I read about how they roll with BTC. That alone is enough to eliminate them as a potential for me. Felt bad for the guy who posted on here, with transcript proof and all, that they took $144 from his BTC deposit of $3000.

                            And this may be me assuming but I feel that they'll tell him that he has to bet $3000 before he can withdraw though he only has $2856 to play with. Again, that's me assuming the worst but I wouldn't put it pass someone to do it, especially if they played underhanded before.
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                            • pologq
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 10-07-12
                              • 19899

                              #15
                              bookmaker as others have said but betonline is a good option too for high limits
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                              • BJohnsonace
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 11-19-19
                                • 23

                                #16
                                @pologq

                                I looked briefly at betonline & all their boxing lines had $100 limits. Are you saying there's a way to bet higher than that with betonline?
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                                • BJohnsonace
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 11-19-19
                                  • 23

                                  #17
                                  Everyone,

                                  Do either Bookmaker, Betonline, or Bovada have history of fraudulent BTC transactions/dealings? And do does Books convert your BTC deposits into currency equal to the value of your purchase/do they hold them as BTC, thus making their value highly volatile? Believe I read that Nitrogen does that with BTC deposits, hold them at their BTC value, thus making them dependent on the market.

                                  Learning how to use BTC and feeling that should be the way I go forward should I return to online sports betting.
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                                  • Shifty
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 08-10-08
                                    • 558

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by BJohnsonace
                                    @pologq

                                    I looked briefly at betonline & all their boxing lines had $100 limits. Are you saying there's a way to bet higher than that with betonline?
                                    Betonline and Bookmaker allow rebets but they might move the line after your first bet. Bookmaker's software moves the line automatically after a bet on smaller fights. It doesn't take much to move a line when you are betting early in the week.

                                    Bookmaker will reimburse you if lose money on your BTC deposit. Just ask.
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