Pinnacle you piece of shit

**PD77** · 03-20-20, 10:28 PM

I never thought I’d see a post like this. I’m not knocking what you are betting on but it’s bizzaro world for me. I wouldn’t even know how to argue this.

**nbcol987** · 03-20-20, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by PD77

I never thought I’d see a post like this. I’m not knocking what you are betting on but it’s bizzaro world for me. I wouldn’t even know how to argue this.

It's like you betting on a football match. Your bet is over 2.5 goals, and the match end with 3 goals ( 2 shoots, 1 penalty ). Then they grade your bet as lost and tell you they don't count penalty goals

**Optional** · 03-20-20, 10:38 PM

Elder Dragons don't effect the buff scale and I think it's kind of obvious why they are not counted for this bet.

But after having a look at how it is presented on the site, and not being able to find any mention of the word "dragon" in their esport rules, I kind of agree with you about it not being clear enough.

I'd send an email and try being really nice as you explain why you think the bet should pay, and I think there is a decent chance they will look after you.

**caramba** · 03-20-20, 10:39 PM

I know nothing about esports, but I hope this works out for you. What do their rules say? I've noticed that books are offering things they haven't offered before and not added these new sports to their rules section.
I also wanted to tell you that your profile pic is very accurate in times like these.

**nbcol987** · 03-20-20, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Elder Dragons don't effect the buff scale and I think it's kind of obvious why they are not counted for this bet.

But after having a look at how it is presented on the site, and not being able to find any mention of the word "dragon" in their esport rules, I kind of agree with you about it not being clear enough.

I'd send an email and try being really nice as you explain why you think the bet should pay, and I think there is a decent chance they will look after you.

Thanks for your understanding. Elder dragons are different than other dragon types, but it can't change the fact it should be count as a dragon.

My Pinnacle ID is BN890296 , Wager number 1116035938 , just in case you need it.

**JoeCool20** · 03-20-20, 10:57 PM

Originally posted by caramba

I've noticed that books are offering things they haven't offered before.

Yeah nitro is offering lines on Russian ping pong! LOL If it was on T.V. I'd bet it! I have an Aussie rules FB bet right now

because I saw it was on FS-1. LOL No fans in the stands! Very weird.

But they are kick-passing that big fat ball right on the money to each other!

It can't be as easy as they are making it look to kick it 40 yds right to each other!

**nbcol987** · 03-20-20, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by caramba

I know nothing about esports, but I hope this works out for you. What do their rules say? I've noticed that books are offering things they haven't offered before and not added these new sports to their rules section.
I also wanted to tell you that your profile pic is very accurate in times like these.

They just offer the line "Total dragons killed", no more. No rule about which types of dragon are count or not count.

Their "Total dragons killed" line

They can't just offer an unclear line, then pull out some nonsense rules out of their ass

**PD77** · 03-20-20, 11:18 PM

Originally posted by nbcol987

It's like you betting on a football match. Your bet is over 2.5 goals, and the match end with 3 goals ( 2 shoots, 1 penalty ). Then they grade your bet as lost and tell you they don't count penalty goals

I’d liken it more to the old Atari game Pitfall and betting over/under crocodile heads pitfall Harry will jump over before he dies. I still play clash of clans, can you bet on that? Going on at least six years maybe seven. Only dud left in my clan.

Opti, what the hell is Buff scale?

**PD77** · 03-20-20, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by Optional

I'd send an email and try being really nice

Don’t most try this technique first before coming here? I always do/did and I’ve never filed a complaint. It’s a little late to be nice unless someone can edit the thread title.

**Optional** · 03-20-20, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by PD77

I’d liken it more to the old Atari game Pitfall and betting over/under crocodile heads pitfall Harry will jump over before he dies. I still play clash of clans, can you bet on that? Going on at least six years maybe seven. Only dud left in my clan.

Opti, what the hell is Buff scale?

Just the LoL name for health/power.

**Waterstpub87** · 03-20-20, 11:31 PM

Its a brave new world man. I hope they payout for your dragons. I still don't have a clue what the hell is going on.

**nbcol987** · 03-20-20, 11:48 PM

Originally posted by PD77

Don’t most try this technique first before coming here? I always do/did and I’ve never filed a complaint. It’s a little late to be nice unless someone can edit the thread title.

I was telling them their line was unclear at the first place, and they keep acting like it was my fault for not know their invisible rule.

**icon** · 03-21-20, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by nbcol987

Really frustrated about Pinnacle.

How much did you actually bet?

Max bet on this market is $100. I'm sure they will do the right thing as Pinnacle is the best book in the world.

If you get tilted by a $100 wager maybe betting isn't for you.

**nbcol987** · 03-21-20, 12:27 AM

Originally posted by icon

How much did you actually bet?

Max bet on this market is $100. I'm sure they will do the right thing as Pinnacle is the best book in the world.

If you get tilted by a $100 wager maybe betting isn't for you.

$100 is not much, but the fact is they suddenly pull out some invisible nonsense rules to screw me.

**icon** · 03-21-20, 01:06 AM

Originally posted by nbcol987

$100 is not much, but the fact is they suddenly pull out some invisible nonsense rules to screw me.

Yes because without your $100 wager they would be broke.

Your thread title is misleading and immature.

**nbcol987** · 03-21-20, 03:50 AM

Originally posted by icon

Yes because without your $100 wager they would be broke.

Your thread title is misleading and immature.

Ok then what should my thread title be ?

**infotimbo** · 03-21-20, 03:55 AM

Originally posted by Optional

But after having a look at how it is presented on the site, and not being able to find any mention of the word "dragon" in their esport rules, I kind of agree with you about it not being clear enough.

no idea if that's any help (as I am in no way familiar with esports) but their rules do say "In Dota and LoL any Kill props will be graded using the in-game scoreboard, displayed at the top of the screen."

do those "Dragon Kills" show up on the scoreboard? If so, rules should be fairly clear

**nbcol987** · 03-21-20, 04:08 AM

Originally posted by infotimbo

no idea if that's any help (as I am in no way familiar with esports) but their rules do say "In Dota and LoL any Kill props will be graded using the in-game scoreboard, displayed at the top of the screen."

That only can apply for heroes/champions kills. They also offer "Total barons killed" and the number of killed barons doesn't show on in-game scoreboard .

Originally posted by infotimbo

do those "Dragon Kills" show up on the scoreboard? If so, rules should be fairly clear

The scoreboard show Dragon buffs, not number of dragons killed.

**nbcol987** · 03-21-20, 10:39 AM

UPDATE!

My bet still graded as lost, but they just add 128 USD to my account ( equal my initial wager ).

**BigJay** · 03-21-20, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by nbcol987

Ok then what should my thread title be ?

Misgraded Dungeons and Dragons bet

**winnerloser** · 03-21-20, 01:22 PM

now you know the rules.

**MIGUEL PEREZ** · 03-21-20, 01:32 PM

this is why betting on trash gets you just wait till regular sports come back these offshore books treat us like trash make them feel the effect of this so they wont be so cocky in the future.

**Optional** · 03-21-20, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by nbcol987

UPDATE!

My bet still graded as lost, but they just add 128 USD to my account ( equal my initial wager ).

That was nice and quick.

"The scoreboard show Dragon buffs, not number of dragons killed." <-- that would seem to be the point of confusion.

"In Dota and LoL any Kill props will be graded using the in-game scoreboard" <-- and make this rule the one that was key to the lose grading.

Seriously, being nice with them works a lot better than going in on attack almost every time.

**nbcol987** · 03-22-20, 03:22 AM

Originally posted by MIGUEL PEREZ

this is why betting on trash gets you just wait till regular sports come back these offshore books treat us like trash make them feel the effect of this so they wont be so cocky in the future.

Well it's not trash though, Esports betting is really huge now.

**nbcol987** · 03-22-20, 07:17 AM

They just cancelled one of my bet because "The bet was placed after the match started"! My bet was placed on 17/3, the match was started at 21/3, how the hell can it placed after the match started ???

UPDATE : They just add my wager winning money to my account. Still WTF moment from them though