where are all the arbitrage opportunities!?

**garyking** · 10-31-22, 02:36 PM

It's nowhere near as good as it was 15 years ago that's for sure. I find I can generate about $2000 per month now and less when the NFL is not on. I'm using about 7 books now regularly, and have had accounts (and been limited/banned) at many many more. But my betting is almost all live now, and as such consumes a lot of time for a relatively small profit.

I recommend reading the book "the logic of sports betting" by Ed Miller (If you haven't already) as it contains some information on how sportsbooks operate, and deal with things like arbing.

**Crusherrr** · 10-31-22, 03:34 PM

I know you mean bonus arbitrage, mostly- but the opportunities have still been tremendous for me. Bookmaker/JustBet did unlimited 100% $1,000 FP offers all October.

BetOnline VIP players get 3x 50% up to $1,000 FP bonuses each week and have a 100% FP $1,000 offer live right now, too.

Carbon/Sportsbook with the 50% cash bonuses up to $1,000 each week. If a site only sees you betting arbitrage/bonus bets and seemingly wagering to clear rollover after they will probably cut you off. I've always given regular action, played poker (if offered) and bet (sometimes very large) in their casinos to complete my entire player profile.

If you want pure arbitrage betting there are several other sites that provide this information for you. If you want only +EV bets there are also groups on discord you can follow, guys giving plays on twitter in real time and also paid data sites that offer only +EV betting.

I know very little about golf but am finding at least 20-30 5-10% opportunities a week just from a paid service. If your average wager is $250 you're easily making $3,000 a month in EV just from the higher EV plays. There are more opportunities than that, some with higher edge but more variance and some with lower edge. If you add LIV+Euro you're making even more from a relatively small unit size (imo)

**milwaukee mike** · 10-31-22, 06:18 PM

enjoy the moneymakers while you have them... because they can all stop on a dime

everyone has good angles totally disappear, now it would be pretty difficult to make a living... if looking for a side hustle, or just some fun and entertainment, sports betting is still OK for that

wish i wasn't such a degenerate when the money making opportunities were much better!

**garyking** · 11-01-22, 12:53 AM

Originally posted by milwaukee mike

enjoy the moneymakers while you have them... because they can all stop on a dime

everyone has good angles totally disappear, now it would be pretty difficult to make a living... if looking for a side hustle, or just some fun and entertainment, sports betting is still OK for that

wish i wasn't such a degenerate when the money making opportunities were much better!

Yes, and to a certain extent everyone has their gambling achilles heel. For me a certain percentage of the sports profits always goes to the horses, and a lesser extent to roulette lol.

**searanchdude** · 11-01-22, 10:38 AM

thanks for ideas and encouragement fellas... @Crusherrr, you definitely gave me some ideas to adjust and enhance my winnings, just as you have done over the years. @garyking, I've read "The Logic of Betting Sports", great book!

**garyking** · 11-01-22, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by searanchdude

thanks for ideas and encouragement fellas... @Crusherrr, you definitely gave me some ideas to adjust and enhance my winnings, just as you have done over the years. @garyking, I've read "The Logic of Betting Sports", great book!

Just finishing it now Searanch, you're right a great book.

**stevex** · 11-01-22, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by Crusherrr

I know you mean bonus arbitrage, mostly- but the opportunities have still been tremendous for me. Bookmaker/JustBet did unlimited 100% $1,000 FP offers all October.

BetOnline VIP players get 3x 50% up to $1,000 FP bonuses each week and have a 100% FP $1,000 offer live right now, too.

Carbon/Sportsbook with the 50% cash bonuses up to $1,000 each week. If a site only sees you betting arbitrage/bonus bets and seemingly wagering to clear rollover after they will probably cut you off. I've always given regular action, played poker (if offered) and bet (sometimes very large) in their casinos to complete my entire player profile.

If you want pure arbitrage betting there are several other sites that provide this information for you. If you want only +EV bets there are also groups on discord you can follow, guys giving plays on twitter in real time and also paid data sites that offer only +EV betting.

I know very little about golf but am finding at least 20-30 5-10% opportunities a week just from a paid service. If your average wager is $250 you're easily making $3,000 a month in EV just from the higher EV plays. There are more opportunities than that, some with higher edge but more variance and some with lower edge. If you add LIV+Euro you're making even more from a relatively small unit size (imo)

I thought Sportsbook/Carbon cut you off from their bonus since you were up a lot there?

**Crusherrr** · 11-01-22, 05:28 PM

They went a few weeks where they didnt do the 50% offers and lowered payouts from $5k to $2.5k but I never lost my bonus offers.

**rustygsbr** · 11-01-22, 05:58 PM

Does carbon take USA? Do they have high betting limits?

**Crusherrr** · 11-01-22, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by rustygsbr

Does carbon take USA? Do they have high betting limits?

Yes, but if you don't have an account opened already prior to like 2019 you can't make one now. Closed off.

Not super high. But usually $3k-5k for most major sports. Tonight's World Series I know they took up to $10k. But if you won that bet it'd take a month to be paid, so no reason to bother betting that big.

**rustygsbr** · 11-02-22, 12:24 AM

Thanks so much for this information.

Originally posted by Crusherrr

Yes, but if you don't have an account opened already prior to like 2019 you can't make one now. Closed off.

Not super high. But usually $3k-5k for most major sports. Tonight's World Series I know they took up to $10k. But if you won that bet it'd take a month to be paid, so no reason to bother betting that big.

**jjgold** · 11-02-22, 05:02 AM

Scalping all over

Everyone copies each others lines

**Fishhead** · 11-02-22, 07:29 AM

Innovate and adapt

Only way to survive in this business

Also, early birds get more worms.

**searanchdude** · 11-02-22, 12:10 PM

Crusherrr, how do you sort out the reliable scientific +EV paid pick providers vs just some website that ranks some pro pickers that have a hot streak. I see DonBest, Vegas Insider, Action Network... are those reliable? Any you care to name specifically that you like?

**milwaukee mike** · 11-02-22, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by searanchdude

Crusherrr, how do you sort out the reliable scientific +EV paid pick providers vs just some website that ranks some pro pickers that have a hot streak. I see DonBest, Vegas Insider, Action Network... are those reliable? Any you care to name specifically that you like?

i'll butt in to say other than RAS and maybe a couple others, there is nothing anyone should ever pay for

sbr used to have a whole forum where all the tout picks could be gotten for free, and they weren't even worth that!

**stevex** · 11-02-22, 06:40 PM

I think we’re talking about two different things here. There are services you can pay for that guys just offer their picks. Then there are also services that you pay for which show you arb opportunities. Crush’s example was golf for arbs. From my understanding, and I may be outdated here but you need access to Euro books to even attempt to arb. Just having access to US and offshore (Costa Rica) is won’t cut it.

**Crusherrr** · 11-02-22, 07:29 PM

I was simply talking about +EV betting using datagolf.
Other services like spankodds and unabated are also excellent. But I only use those when betting no vig lines. You will seldom find arbitrage opportunities with those but Oddsjam has arbitrage bets. Works great for props