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  • RazzFan
    SBR High Roller
    • 03-28-10
    • 216

    #1
    Betliner/Betcruise -opinions or experiences?
    Does anyone have any experiences or opinions using either Betliner.com (which is part of Betcruise.com family)? I searched through the forums, but nothing I found was from people who'd bet here.
    They have an interesting structure where they don't charge vig on Bets or rake in poker room. You only pay a fee upon cashout, and its only on your winnings (not including your initial deposit).
    That sounds very intriguing. I am curious how people felt about the site, the interface and if cashouts were quick and trouble free? Thanks in advance.
  • jackkkk2009
    SBR MVP
    • 07-13-09
    • 1183

    #2
    I have never heard about that site.. do u mean BetCris.com
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    • RazzFan
      SBR High Roller
      • 03-28-10
      • 216

      #3
      Originally posted by jackkkk2009
      I have never heard about that site.. do u mean BetCris.com
      Nope its Betliner.com / BetCruise.com
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      • jackkkk2009
        SBR MVP
        • 07-13-09
        • 1183

        #4
        can't find their ratings in SBR. no information of them. how did you get those two websites?
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        • RazzFan
          SBR High Roller
          • 03-28-10
          • 216

          #5
          Originally posted by jackkkk2009
          can't find their ratings in SBR. no information of them. how did you get those two websites?
          I found an old link on SBR for BetCruise, but its dead now. As if there was a review and the page is now gone. BetCruise is the parent company and Betliner is their sportsbook, BetVoyager their casino, and Betraiser is their poker room.

          I have been seeing them advertise on a couple betting and poker forums since at least the beginning of the year. Mostly touting there is no house cut, until you cashout, then only on profit. I have seen they are US-friendly and allow Click2pay as a deposit & cashout method, which I have an active account at.

          I am curious what experiences people had. Were cashouts fast and worry-free? Did people make out way better only paying a fee on cashout of profit, as opposed to the standard method most sites use for their cut on ever wager?
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          • thespeculator
            SBR MVP
            • 09-09-08
            • 2999

            #6
            justin7 had a thread on this exchange a few weeks back ,you can click on his previous posts to find it , i haven't used the site but it looks ok, would stick with matchbook for exchange plays, doubt if you will find better prices or faster payouts
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            • pete346
              SBR High Roller
              • 04-09-09
              • 234

              #7
              Haven't heard of them before today, but I checked out the website and it looks good. NO USA, though.
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              • RazzFan
                SBR High Roller
                • 03-28-10
                • 216

                #8
                Originally posted by thespeculator
                justin7 had a thread on this exchange a few weeks back ,you can click on his previous posts to find it , i haven't used the site but it looks ok, would stick with matchbook for exchange plays, doubt if you will find better prices or faster payouts
                I pulled up that thread. There was no feedback in there from any users. Only comments on how the site looked. I am looking for opinions on people with experiences, particularly cashing out.

                Originally posted by pete346
                Haven't heard of them before today, but I checked out the website and it looks good. NO USA, though.
                That is incorrect. They definitely take US players. From what I read they did not for their first few years, but have now accepted US players for a year.
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                • RazzFan
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 03-28-10
                  • 216

                  #9
                  How can I request that SBR reviews this sportsbook?
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                  • RazzFan
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 03-28-10
                    • 216

                    #10
                    Is there a way I can request that SBR do a review on this book?
                    I would like to give it a try since it charges no juice, but I would like to know how dependable the company is.
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                    • kaos7613
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 05-11-10
                      • 39

                      #11
                      they are legit , don't worry
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                      • Annya
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 06-02-10
                        • 1

                        #12
                        Hi,
                        I am currently playing in their casino (BetVoyager). So far, so good. I've made one withdraw - using Moneybookers - and the money were in my account in 5 hours (no ID request or other hassle).
                        Now, there are some posts on other sites regarding denial of winnings, account banning and stuff like that (just google for Betcruise). I personally hadn't have any trouble with them and I have noticed that all this posts are at least one year old and they all refer to the poker room, not casino or sports betting. The casino is not on the black list on any forum, so I think they didn't have any problems, at least in the last several months. They don't have any bonuses, but allow wagers as low as 0.01 cents - my firs deposit was 2 euro and I withdrawn 100 euro...
                        Good luck
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                        • SBR Lou
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 08-02-07
                          • 37863

                          #13
                          Both were initiated at C. The sportsbook/exchange is based in Curacao.

                          We are told that they will accept US players, but presently have limited deposit methods for them. Anyone with feedback can always write to help@sportsbookreview.com with comments or issues.
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                          • RazzFan
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 03-28-10
                            • 216

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Lou
                            Both were initiated at C. The sportsbook/exchange is based in Curacao.

                            We are told that they will accept US players, but presently have limited deposit methods for them. Anyone with feedback can always write to help@sportsbookreview.com with comments or issues.
                            Thanks Lou! I saw them on the front page this morning. When I contacted them, they stated they do accept US players, but emphasized that currently the only deposit/cashout method available for US players is Click2pay.
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                            • blueWORLD
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 04-15-09
                              • 9

                              #15
                              Here is my opinion about Betcruise, Betvoyager and Betliner: slowloy but surely this operator seems to advance. their website comes across way more fresh and modern than at the launch and they adding new exciting casino games on a weekly basis. i didnt hear any bad comments about delayed payout and didn't have any myself.

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                              • Doug
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 08-10-05
                                • 6324

                                #16
                                I never heard of them before. Do they still take Americans ?
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                                • Hareeba!
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 07-01-06
                                  • 36728

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by RazzFan
                                  Is there a way I can request that SBR do a review on this book?
                                  I would like to give it a try since it charges no juice, but I would like to know how dependable the company is.
                                  no juice?
                                  that means you must be a loser
                                  winners pay (10%) on withdrawing?

                                  however, I fear it could be a whole lost worse than that
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                                  • Hareeba!
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 07-01-06
                                    • 36728

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Doug
                                    I never heard of them before. Do they still take Americans ?
                                    why don't you read the preceding posts?
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                                    • noyb
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 09-13-05
                                      • 971

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by blueWORLD
                                      Here is my opinion about Betcruise, Betvoyager and Betliner: slowloy but surely this operator seems to advance. their website comes across way more fresh and modern than at the launch and they adding new exciting casino games on a weekly basis. i didnt hear any bad comments about delayed payout and didn't have any myself.

                                      some of the posts in this and other threads on betcruise are a typical example of an army of shills at work. pretty pathetic.
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                                      • jeff1973
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 03-22-11
                                        • 19

                                        #20
                                        ehh....

                                        Originally posted by noyb
                                        some of the posts in this and other threads on betcruise are a typical example of an army of shills at work. pretty pathetic.
                                        I don't know about shilling, or the commission being good or bad, but this book's action is weak.
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                                        • jeff1973
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 03-22-11
                                          • 19

                                          #21
                                          ...
                                          Last edited by jeff1973; 03-22-11, 08:56 AM.
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                                          • jeff1973
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 03-22-11
                                            • 19

                                            #22
                                            Really?

                                            Originally posted by blueWORLD
                                            Here is my opinion about Betcruise, Betvoyager and Betliner: slowloy but surely this operator seems to advance. their website comes across way more fresh and modern than at the launch and they adding new exciting casino games on a weekly basis. i didnt hear any bad comments about delayed payout and didn't have any myself.

                                            really? i don' t think so....
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                                            • BET THE HOOK
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-16-09
                                              • 1947

                                              #23
                                              Just stick with the A books and you will be Ok.
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                                              • jeff1973
                                                SBR Rookie
                                                • 03-22-11
                                                • 19

                                                #24
                                                Pleasantly surprised...

                                                I actually gave betvoyager a chance and played their no house edge european roulette. I was honestly pleasantly surprised on how much money I won. It's a good feeling to know that nobody's scamming you. I guess the not so well known online casinos aren't as bad as I thought..
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                                                • Zuon
                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                  • 03-06-11
                                                  • 93

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by jeff1973
                                                  I actually gave betvoyager a chance and played their no house edge european roulette. I was honestly pleasantly surprised on how much money I won. It's a good feeling to know that nobody's scamming you. I guess the not so well known online casinos aren't as bad as I thought..
                                                  How many have you played?
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                                                  • jeff1973
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 03-22-11
                                                    • 19

                                                    #26
                                                    !!

                                                    zuon, not many...I usually stick with betfair but both have no zero roulette which is cool..
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                                                    • prostudio
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 09-14-11
                                                      • 1

                                                      #27
                                                      Hi friends i have a great experience on betcruise so this is an answer about players who had problems with betcruise.

                                                      Before some months i join this gambling group only cause i wanted to find casino with minimum deposit and after looking in a forum i found betcruise.

                                                      Ok i enter i register and i make my first deposit with them, i lost all sure but i was courios to navigate a bit more and i found great poker games, great slots, nice roulette with a great payout and i wanted to try more.

                                                      From that moment and ON i go on with my deposits.

                                                      The deposit was instant and i am very satisfied with their service ,then another day i tried to cashout and process of withdrawal was not more then 12 hours, this is great DEAL.

                                                      Everything on their pages of casino, poker and sports bet is simple and easy.


                                                      Try it now cause you will not regret.

                                                      BetCruise betting is the new exiting and lovely casino that i found while searching for perfect Leveraged betting for new players around the globe.

                                                      Here you can find what you need.

                                                      This is what betcruise offers.

                                                      BETVOYAGER CASINO

                                                      First thing that you cant find on other casinos is minimum deposit required.

                                                      1.You can deposit starting from 1 $ and more up.

                                                      2.First deposit going up to 100 % in bonus money.

                                                      3.The cashouts are great.

                                                      BETRAISER POKER

                                                      Betraiser poker had the RAKE FREE first promotion

                                                      They have 100 $ weekly free rolls for poker forum

                                                      Multi Table Freerolls, 24/7 Support, Private Tables etc

                                                      BETLINER BETTING

                                                      Sports betting is the most loved way of playing and having fun online.

                                                      Betcruise portal is offering that with the best team of support on this bussines for years.

                                                      All popular events are included here like :Basketball, Baseball, Hockey, Soccer, Tennis and even formula 1

                                                      Payments are very easy using the best payment options Online, like: moneybookers, ***, neteller etc.

                                                      Bet Cruise portal is a great opportunity for all our players / visitors, cause here you can find: Casino, Poker, and Betting with a very serious customer support and with very fast cashouts.
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                                                      • noyb
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 09-13-05
                                                        • 971

                                                        #28
                                                        and there's another shill.. ffs, they don't even try to hide it anymore
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                                                        • mighty maron
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 04-20-09
                                                          • 4215

                                                          #29
                                                          green eggs and spam
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                                                          • wrongturn
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 06-06-06
                                                            • 2228

                                                            #30
                                                            man you need to do a better job than that if you want to get any customers older than 3rd graders.
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                                                            • bigboydan
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 08-10-05
                                                              • 55420

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by prostudio
                                                              Hi friends i have a great experience on betcruise so this is an answer about players who had problems with betcruise.

                                                              Before some months i join this gambling group only cause i wanted to find casino with minimum deposit and after looking in a forum i found betcruise.

                                                              Ok i enter i register and i make my first deposit with them, i lost all sure but i was courios to navigate a bit more and i found great poker games, great slots, nice roulette with a great payout and i wanted to try more.

                                                              From that moment and ON i go on with my deposits.

                                                              The deposit was instant and i am very satisfied with their service ,then another day i tried to cashout and process of withdrawal was not more then 12 hours, this is great DEAL.

                                                              Everything on their pages of casino, poker and sports bet is simple and easy.


                                                              Try it now cause you will not regret.

                                                              BetCruise betting is the new exiting and lovely casino that i found while searching for perfect Leveraged betting for new players around the globe.

                                                              Here you can find what you need.

                                                              This is what betcruise offers.

                                                              BETVOYAGER CASINO

                                                              First thing that you cant find on other casinos is minimum deposit required.

                                                              1.You can deposit starting from 1 $ and more up.

                                                              2.First deposit going up to 100 % in bonus money.

                                                              3.The cashouts are great.

                                                              BETRAISER POKER

                                                              Betraiser poker had the RAKE FREE first promotion

                                                              They have 100 $ weekly free rolls for poker forum

                                                              Multi Table Freerolls, 24/7 Support, Private Tables etc

                                                              BETLINER BETTING

                                                              Sports betting is the most loved way of playing and having fun online.

                                                              Betcruise portal is offering that with the best team of support on this bussines for years.

                                                              All popular events are included here like :Basketball, Baseball, Hockey, Soccer, Tennis and even formula 1

                                                              Payments are very easy using the best payment options Online, like: moneybookers, ***, neteller etc.

                                                              Bet Cruise portal is a great opportunity for all our players / visitors, cause here you can find: Casino, Poker, and Betting with a very serious customer support and with very fast cashouts.
                                                              First off, Welcome to the SBR forum

                                                              Some poster above feel this is a promotion type post and I will definitely take their opinions under advisement. In the meantime I can only tell you what I know about them at this time. BetCruise (SBR Rated C) and is part of the Gamesys N.V. family of books and located in Curacao and to my knowledge they currently have no outstanding complaints levied against them at this time.
                                                              Last edited by SBR Jonelyn; 01-15-15, 09:38 AM.
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                                                              • vivanorge
                                                                SBR Rookie
                                                                • 11-23-10
                                                                • 35

                                                                #32
                                                                Have long been judged to closed down, but are still alive....
                                                                They have until recently have 10% commission on withdrawel.
                                                                But have also (and still have?) interest on amount in account.

                                                                But looks that they have changed to 2% commission on net-winning.

                                                                Have used for 2 years without any problems. But my money are still under their 10% commission
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                                                                • SportsMozart
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 01-18-11
                                                                  • 377

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I cannot really understand that outfit. Liquidity is very low on American sports, no college basket at all. I do not know about football cause season just ended but looks like on NBA they are only taking ML bets Who the hell is betting on ML in basketball...No spread? WTF
                                                                  I opened account there but looks to me they are pretty much useless...
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                                                                  • darkhat
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 08-18-10
                                                                    • 5722

                                                                    #34
                                                                    avoid them.
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                                                                    • sarabia
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 04-29-17
                                                                      • 15

                                                                      #35
                                                                      some experience with withdraw money? limit come fast , normal stake about 150e
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