Bovada taking all perks away

[unde0087]

I was just looking for some information from other Bovada users. I have been with them for over a decade now and it has been a great experience up until the last few months. They had the best player perks in the business but now it appears that is drying up. I was just wondering if this is happening to others because when I go on chat to ask about these concerns I get nothing but the run around.

So for years I always received cash back on losses every week. Obviously not on the weeks I would get payouts or crushed them. Those went away during the summer months. Then I always received rewards points every week on losses/action and now those have been stopped. They send me messages about me losing these but always say they are improving their program and that exciting things are coming. But of course they never do, they just continue to take things. One of the main things I really liked was their cash bonuses with just a 5X rollover, I could clear those in a day or two. I used to get two per week and they ranged from 100% to 50% even when I would crush them for weeks, it was always the same. Then the past few months I started to get only one, which is fine. Then I log on last week to see what they had and now the bonuses changed from 5X roll, which has been the same for years, to a 30X rollover.

I can't figure it out. I don't know if they are doing this because they don't want my action anymore or if this is going on with everyone. I know that I have cashed out quite often in the past year with them but I have went on much larger runs and cashed out much much more in previous years and none of this was happening.

Just looking to see what others are experiencing with them because what used to be the reason for playing with them is now gone. They have great live betting options which is about the only left in my opinion. Sure isn't their player program anymore, it is now non existent for me.

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

[Ksherm]

They took mine away a year ago..

[Seattle Slew]

Same for everyone but seems like you're a bigger player and they're still limiting any perks.

Bonuses have dried up, and the ones they do offer have the absurd use it all in 10 days or so or lose it language, which is insane. They even are taking back $50 bonuses from people.

I dropped them 6 months ago and haven't missed them at all except they are the one shop that counts racing bets toward rollover.

[unde0087]

Ya, bonuses went from 5X roll to 30X roll over night. I went on chat to ask what was going on the other day and the CS person actually said and I quote "we are changing our program to the betterment of all our customers". I was speechless for a minute. I said so you are telling me taking all your clients perks away is helping them how? Not surprisingly, I didn't get an answer, just the usual deflection. I just love on the message I got from them was don't worry exciting improvements and festive bonuses are coming your way this holiday season. Haven't seen any of those yet.

[Seattle Slew]

Ya, bonuses went from 5X roll to 30X roll over night. I went on chat to ask what was going on the other day and the CS person actually said and I quote "we are changing our program to the betterment of all our customers". I was speechless for a minute. I said so you are telling me taking all your clients perks away is helping them how? Not surprisingly, I didn't get an answer, just the usual deflection. I just love on the message I got from them was don't worry exciting improvements and festive bonuses are coming your way this holiday season. Haven't seen any of those yet.

I think they used to give out free plays on Thanksgiving and Christmas, but I guess they stopped that too.

[gauchojake]

I switched to their bitcoin only deposit program that gave 50% cash 5x roll on almost every deposit. I won and cashed a bunch and then they took that away. I think I went all in on one deposit and they didn't like that for some reason even though I think I lost. They sent me a note earlier this year saying that my bonuses had been restored but I have only received one offer which I deposited and lost. Since then, nothing.

I've had an account at bodog/bovada for probably 20 years and I am sure I'm down lifetime but I guess I bet differently than I did 20 years ago lol.

[BigBlueNYG]

Offshore has gone to shit for the most part. I wouldn’t trust money anywhere besides Bookmaker and Heritage.

Youwager stole close to $400 in loyalty points from me. Haven’t used them in 5 years, worst CS in offshore. Betus bounced a ✅ that they tried to blame on me, when Legends closed down had close to $4k balance that I had to send to Wager Web. I say all that to say all books are shady and can change quick, Youwager and Legends were both great outs until they weren’t. Never liked Bovada personally but without their bonuses definitely don’t see the perks of playing there, at least Bookmaker and Heritage you know your money is safe

[unde0087]

Offshore has gone to shit for the most part. I wouldn’t trust money anywhere besides Bookmaker and Heritage.

Youwager stole close to $400 in loyalty points from me. Haven’t used them in 5 years, worst CS in offshore. Betus bounced a ✅ that they tried to blame on me, when Legends closed down had close to $4k balance that I had to send to Wager Web. I say all that to say all books are shady and can change quick, Youwager and Legends were both great outs until they weren’t. Never liked Bovada personally but without their bonuses definitely don’t see the perks of playing there, at least Bookmaker and Heritage you know your money is safe

Well I can say I don't worry about not being paid at bovada. No matter if it was $500 or $10000 I have been paid in less than 30 minutes, 7 days a week, every time. I can't talk shit about that aspect of their operation.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

unde, Bovada took all bonuses away from me over a year ago and have not played there since.

Count yourself lucky you have had them this long...

[gauchojake]

Lightning fast deposits

[2Sweeet]

These books have lost a ton of biz with USA becoming legal. Offshore on life support sad to say it. Your best bet is a Agent or Local Guy if you can't bet Legally. The days of being a Bonus whore are over.

[2Sweeet]

Offshore has gone to shit for the most part. I wouldn’t trust money anywhere besides Bookmaker and Heritage.

Youwager stole close to $400 in loyalty points from me. Haven’t used them in 5 years, worst CS in offshore. Betus bounced a ✅ that they tried to blame on me, when Legends closed down had close to $4k balance that I had to send to Wager Web. I say all that to say all books are shady and can change quick, Youwager and Legends were both great outs until they weren’t. Never liked Bovada personally but without their bonuses definitely don’t see the perks of playing there, at least Bookmaker and Heritage you know your money is safe

LOL Legends or Legendz? LOL U probably were one of those Mvpaction.ag morons too. What ever happened to Larry? The Capilleria family of books were so funny.

[BigBlueNYG]

Legendz my bad, what was wrong with them? Before the days of BTC had two 5 figure payouts that took less than 2 weeks from request to funds available. Never heard of the other book you mentioned.

[djefferis]

“Perks are being removed for benefit of all players” - translation - we are left with a dwindling base of bonus whores who we no longer feel the need to waste limited profits enticing to play with us. If your here - it’s only because you can’t play anywhere else.

I seriously have never seen the attraction of Bovada - even in the heyday of offshore - they were middle of the pack at best.

Yea - if I “had” to play offshore in the US (live in a state without legal online betting) - and had the desire - it would be Bookmaker and Heritage for me. As it is - I have choices - I use offshore for a bonus - Heritage still gives me a little bonus and occasionally better bonuses - as well as cash back and -108 pricing which is nice - and they pay. And some legal shops treat me well with rewards - but overall the see no reason to support books that don’t give a bonus or offer a compelling reason to play there (wide selection/low juice - arbitrage opportunities).

Legendz - forgot all about those guys - as well as The Pig briefly. The absolute definition of low tech online sportsbook - made Carib and their website designed to run on a TRS-80 look high tech. Forgot how they closed shop and sent everyone to WagerWeb - again a great example of a shop everyone felt was “safe” - only to leave players with huge balances being bailed out by WW with rollover conditions.

But Bovada - I’d walk - as mentioned they treated you well and rewarded your loyalty- but end of day it’s a business - not a friendship. Go with who offers best value - and remember security of funds is an added value.

[garyking]

Finally thought I got a half decent bonus 100% up to $200 Festive NFL bonus and then I read the T&C and rollover casino only. Seems like false advertising making it look like a sports bonus. They can take their crooked casino and go to hell.

[Stallion]

Bovada/Bodog took bonuses away from me a while ago, I haven't played there since.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

unde, was this a brag thread that you were still getting bonuses all this time when most others got cut off years ago?

[DwightShrute]

Bonuses have always been for new players and losers (AKA bettors who are down overall). A huge percentage of players don't bother with bonuses.

[unde0087]

unde, was this a brag thread that you were still getting bonuses all this time when most others got cut off years ago?

No Jaker, it was an inquiry. I was just wondering why I was being cut off from everything that I had before and if others were in the same boat. I wasn't getting any answers from Bovada so I wanted to ask others.

[unde0087]

Bonuses have always been for new players and losers (AKA bettors who are down overall). A huge percentage of players don't bother with bonuses.

Dwight, I would agree with not taking bonuses, especially if it is a high rollover or freeplay, but it was the greatest thing to get 50% to 100% cash bonus weekly. I mean they dropped me to a max of $500 match but with only a 5X roll I could have that rolled over in a weekend then cash out and deposit more on Monday getting the same again. It didn't matter if I beat them for a month straight or for how much I would still get that bonus in my account. It was a no brainer. Sad to see it end.

[DwightShrute]

Dwight, I would agree with not taking bonuses, especially if it is a high rollover or freeplay, but it was the greatest thing to get 50% to 100% cash bonus weekly. I mean they dropped me to a max of $500 match but with only a 5X roll I could have that rolled over in a weekend then cash out and deposit more on Monday getting the same again. It didn't matter if I beat them for a month straight or for how much I would still get that bonus in my account. It was a no brainer. Sad to see it end.

I am not anti bonus, not at all. What I will say is getting paid and quick is the best bonus. Perhaps that sounds cliché but having been in the industry for many years I speak from experience. Remember with offshore books you can usually get your winnings sent wherever you want and to whoever you want and they never report winnings. So, dealing with an established off shore book with a solid reputation is what bettors need. Not saying you shouldn’t play with with a US book but I know for certain that tons of bettors have more than one book anyways and saving 25-40% in taxes is pretty appealing. Maybe the upside of the US allowing sports betting is that the shitty off shore books will disappear, leaving the best ones standing. You know, the ones we all know have religiously paid their customers forever. With crypto, you get free payouts usually.

that’s just my 2 cents

[Crusherrr]

Dwight, I would agree with not taking bonuses, especially if it is a high rollover or freeplay, but it was the greatest thing to get 50% to 100% cash bonus weekly. I mean they dropped me to a max of $500 match but with only a 5X roll I could have that rolled over in a weekend then cash out and deposit more on Monday getting the same again. It didn't matter if I beat them for a month straight or for how much I would still get that bonus in my account. It was a no brainer. Sad to see it end.

Those offers seemingly lasted 2 years or so for me. Sometimes it would be $750, $1,000 and I even had $2,000 on occasion. 5x roll in sports.

Now I still get 100% up to $2,000 but its for casino only. Rollover is like 35x I think? But you have THREE days to clear it. Plus most games don't count towards rollover or count for like 10-20% max. Total scam offers now.

[Thefix13]

Dwight, I would agree with not taking bonuses, especially if it is a high rollover or freeplay, but it was the greatest thing to get 50% to 100% cash bonus weekly. I mean they dropped me to a max of $500 match but with only a 5X roll I could have that rolled over in a weekend then cash out and deposit more on Monday getting the same again. It didn't matter if I beat them for a month straight or for how much I would still get that bonus in my account. It was a no brainer. Sad to see it end.

You just explained why this went away. Cashing out winnings and turning around and depositing right back to receive a bonus. At some point a guy with half a brain got hired onto the staff I'm guessing.

[unde0087]

Those offers seemingly lasted 2 years or so for me. Sometimes it would be $750, $1,000 and I even had $2,000 on occasion. 5x roll in sports.

Now I still get 100% up to $2,000 but its for casino only. Rollover is like 35x I think? But you have THREE days to clear it. Plus most games don't count towards rollover or count for like 10-20% max. Total scam offers now.

Ya, it is over. Now they started giving me a 50% cash bonus but rollover is now 30X. Not even worth taking them anymore.

[unde0087]

I am not anti bonus, not at all. What I will say is getting paid and quick is the best bonus. Perhaps that sounds cliché but having been in the industry for many years I speak from experience. Remember with offshore books you can usually get your winnings sent wherever you want and to whoever you want and they never report winnings. So, dealing with an established off shore book with a solid reputation is what bettors need. Not saying you shouldn’t play with with a US book but I know for certain that tons of bettors have more than one book anyways and saving 25-40% in taxes is pretty appealing. Maybe the upside of the US allowing sports betting is that the shitty off shore books will disappear, leaving the best ones standing. You know, the ones we all know have religiously paid their customers forever. With crypto, you get free payouts usually.

that’s just my 2 cents

I live in a state that has no sportsbook. I have to play offshore. I do have a few books but gave most of my action to bovada because they have great live betting for soccer and payout out quickly.

[DwightShrute]

I live in a state that has no sportsbook. I have to play offshore. I do have a few books but gave most of my action to bovada because they have great live betting for soccer and payout out quickly.

what else can you ask for? Pay me when I win and don't mess around with BS. You keep my money when I lose, pay me when I win. I have talked to thousands of bettors who bet offshore and Bovada is mentioned quite often. Good things. Most guys have 2 or more books.

Personally, I am not a bonus guy. I have taken them of course but depending on the mood, I usually don't bother with them. I would say its pretty close to 50/50 when it comes to player's taking bonuses or not. The problem with not taking a bonus is, if you lose your deposit, you are done and there is no bonus back up. The problem with taking a bonus, is if you have a great day or two, you can't take any winnings until you meet the rollover. No right or wrong.

Offshore is great. Every sports bettor should have an offshore account IMO. Even if your State allows it. What is you travel out of State or in business in Canada or vacation in Mexico and you can't access your account? Off shore books you can usually from anywhere. And again, they don't report winnings.