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    framboise
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    thesportsbook.com

    a good or bad sportsbook?

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    rookie
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    Are you serious ? Just a cursory look at the website gives it away.

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    framboise
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    yes, i am serious

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    jackkkk2009
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    Can't find any information at SBR for that site. better stay away from them.

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    TheSportsbook_Tom
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    Hi guys,

    My name is Tom and I work with TheSportsbook. We're a new site that is working hard to build up the positive reputation we know our brand deserves.

    Thanks for the interest framboise. We have a fantastic betting engine, very attractive promotions designed to get the ball rolling for us, and immediate, effective support. If I can help answer any questions about the site or if you're looking to take advantage of our double-the-odds on Superbowl futures bets, let me know via PM and I'll get back to you promptly.

    As for the rating, we're working on it. We are currently getting an "F" but working to prove that that is based on an incorrect association with EZ Sports.

    Again, thanks for your interest. I look forward to (possibly) hearing from you.

    Cheers,

    Tom
    Last edited by TheSportsbook_Tom; 08-29-10 at 06:20 PM.

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    HedgeHog
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    F Books are deposit only scams. So why would anyone knowingly send money to an F Book?

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    TheSportsbook_Tom
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    Hi HedgeHog,

    I've contacted SBR's admins about having that rating changed. I can't change that they've set it that way, but I am looking to hear some information on why it was set that way and demonstrate that that information is false.

    We've not defaulted on a single withdrawal or affiliate payment to this point, and are in no danger of doing so. We are the same company that is responsible for CarbonPoker, PDC Poker, and other major sites that are known for making payments and running an honest business, a reputation we have every intention of maintaining with TSB. As I say, we're here to stay and so are keen to make a strong impression with new players by going the extra mile on all things.

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    BigDaddy
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    tom

    do you offer any free accounts like say $50 or $100 with a rollover for new customers to try you out and if they get lucky and win then they test your payouts and see how fast you pay?

    other books like phoenix and heritage have done so in the past

    if so i would try you guys out and check what offerings your book has.

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    JosephPavs
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy View Post
    tom

    do you offer any free accounts like say $50 or $100 with a rollover for new customers to try you out and if they get lucky and win then they test your payouts and see how fast you pay?

    other books like phoenix and heritage have done so in the past

    if so i would try you guys out and check what offerings your book has.


    I would as well

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    doubt they would offer that. just remember how wagerhub ended up

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    BrigadierPudding
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    Bad. Very bad.

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    davidchong
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    yomh is missing

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    Peeig
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    lol Wagerhub......that went well

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    TheSportsbook_Tom
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    Hey BigDaddy, as much as I would like to be able to offer free cash so you could all take a look at the brand, I can't quite comp SBR as a whole just yet. That said, to speak to the issue of our payouts, both CarbonPoker and ChipSplit have consistently quick and easy payouts, and there is plenty of history behind both brands that backs up that claim.

    In the meantime, I think the promotions and support we're offering to new TSB customers deserve some credit. Double Your Odds futures bets until kickoff, and marquee game promos every week of the season.

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    BigOrangeTitans
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    I'll try you guys for a small deposit and let you guys know if they are worth a damn

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    Chopsticks
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    They use the same software as BetED.

    Edit - and same odds as BetED.

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    TheSportsbook_Tom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chopsticks View Post
    They use the same software as BetED.

    Edit - and same odds as BetED.
    We do, however the latest version of the BetED betting software was informed by our requests as a major client. Furthermore, while we are using some of their lines for now we will be running our own more and more as the NFL season goes on.

    We have several experienced linemakers in house and are keen to add unique props and lines to our current offerings, so it won't be long before we're offering quite a distinct set of odds.

    And BigOrange Titans, thanks for the trial deposit, I look forward to hearing your feedback. I PM'ed you as well.

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    Chopsticks
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    I am sure someone will like that you use their lines. BetED have some niche markets and they are not always the quickest to move on certain things. I am sure there are people out there who would want to bet on that with you as they are likely limited to $1 or $25 with BetED. No doubt people you do not want, but you can't be too picky when you are trying to break in to the market

    As for the software. I never really understood why first you can browse the lines in what looks like a normal wagering selection screen, but as soon as you click the line you want, you get taken to some obscure and unnecessary client. The least it could do is to add the selection you made automatically to your bet slip after the "client" opens up.

    I would have tried a test deposit as well, but none of the deposit methods appealed to me. If you are for real though I hope you manage to prove that you should not be an F book.

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    TheSportsbook_Tom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chopsticks View Post
    As for the software. I never really understood why first you can browse the lines in what looks like a normal wagering selection screen, but as soon as you click the line you want, you get taken to some obscure and unnecessary client. The least it could do is to add the selection you made automatically to your bet slip after the "client" opens up.

    I would have tried a test deposit as well, but none of the deposit methods appealed to me. If you are for real though I hope you manage to prove that you should not be an F book.
    Thanks for your feedback Chopsticks. I definitely see your point on the wagering screen, but that said the betting menu in itself is very smooth and allows you to view/adjust your full betting card as you browse the various lines in a way that trumps a book like Bodog, for example.

    As for proving we're not an F book, as I say we're working on that, first by trying to get in touch with a SBR admin. Again, we don't understand where the particular reasons they've listed came from and prove that they are false. Furthermore, by being a part of the same business as CarbonPoker we are able to guarantee withdrawals and general stability far more than any random brand entering the market.

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    Chopsticks
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomh View Post
    Furthermore, by being a part of the same business as CarbonPoker we are able to guarantee withdrawals and general stability far more than any random brand entering the market.
    As a followup to that.. Why can't you have the same deposit and withdrawal methods as them?

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    TheSportsbook_Tom
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    Those deposit/withdrawal options are provided to CarbonPoker via Merge Gaming. We are working hard to expand our processing options and do have a few ways to improve them, but can't access those that Merge has at the moment.

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    acarmelo1
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    do you take moneybookers?

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    Mr_Saratoga
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    Sounds like a guy trying to grind out a living in his mothers basement. You guys aren't seriously looking at this as viable are you?

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    TheSportsbook_Tom
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    acarmelo1 - we do not take moneybookers at this time but we are working on adding it as I type.

    Mr_Saratoga - while I used to live in my mother's basement in high school (it was actually a pretty nice set up) we now work in a pretty swank heritage building downtown. It's no Trump Tower, but we're doing just fine.

    As for viability, I've said before and I'll say again we are not a new company looking to scam a quick couple dollars. The other brands we work with and our strong ownership group we have mean we are here to stay, and are keen to see results as quickly as possible.

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    BigOrangeTitans
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    First deposit in today Small VC deposit. i'll keep u all updated

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    BigOrangeTitans
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    Took about an hour to get the 50% signup bonus. I'm going to give the poker a try this evening.

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    litrismaxxx
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    Hi tomh,

    I would like know what deposits methods you have in Thesportsbook, because i dont see THEM in the website, impossible to see you have to show more things more pages or explain methods.

    I use moneybookers, so if you dont have moneybookers there is no way I can deposit, and you have Neteller??

    I like the bonus 50%, so when you have moneybookers let me know it and I will open an account.

    and also, how long to recieve payment after withdrawal? I like sportsbooks that pay fast same way that " I deposit fast ".

    Hope answers, GL

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    litrismaxxx
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    Well, Also i would like talk about the Bonus WELCOME500

    I see max. bonus is 500$, so if i deposit 1000$ i get 500$, but then i see in a line "Maximum deposit of 500$"... So what is the exact amount of bonus I can get???

    - 10x rollover.

    - What are the minium odds to bet with the rollover?

    - Any restricction about some sports or moneylines or handicaps... ?

    - How long it takes the withdrawals ??

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    TheSportsbook_Tom
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    I've just sent you a PM with some information about the bonus litris. Shouldn't be an issue. As for your other questions (and for everyone's information):

    -there are no minimum odds or particular line restrictions on the bet.

    -our withdrawal options are all listed on the site. Most options process within 48 hours, with checks taking up to 10 days and money transfers/bank wires taking as many as 5.

    I hope that helps. Certainly let me know if you have any other questions or concerns.

    Quote Originally Posted by litrismaxxx View Post
    Well, Also i would like talk about the Bonus WELCOME500

    I see max. bonus is 500$, so if i deposit 1000$ i get 500$, but then i see in a line "Maximum deposit of 500$"... So what is the exact amount of bonus I can get???

    - 10x rollover.

    - What are the minium odds to bet with the rollover?

    - Any restricction about some sports or moneylines or handicaps... ?

    - How long it takes the withdrawals ??

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    BigOrangeTitans
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    SO far so good. Got a free 10 bucks because i had to email to get my deposit bonus. Keep it up tom

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    I forgot, I want to know MINIUM BET Stake and Max. Bet stakes, in football, soccer, NBA or MLB....

    I will try to deposit maybe next week, and lets see what happen. I know merge and i know this site comes from Carbon Poker company so must be not so bad... I hope so.

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    SBR Lou
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomh View Post
    As for the rating, we're working on it. We are currently getting an "F" but working to prove that that is based on an incorrect association with EZ Sports.
    You're correct; the EZ Sports domain was "TheSportbook.com" (without the S), although the book referred to themselves as "TheSportsbook" in promotions and throughout their site. This has been updated on our site.

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    BigOrangeTitans
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    Quote Originally Posted by litrismaxxx View Post


    I forgot, I want to know MINIUM BET Stake and Max. Bet stakes, in football, soccer, NBA or MLB....

    I will try to deposit maybe next week, and lets see what happen. I know merge and i know this site comes from Carbon Poker company so must be not so bad... I hope so.
    1 min
    the max depends on the game

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    TheSportsbook_Tom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou View Post
    You're correct; the EZ Sports domain was "TheSportbook.com" (without the S), although the book referred to themselves as "TheSportsbook" in promotions and throughout their site. This has been updated on our site.
    Thanks for clearing this up Lou. We're looking forward to our rating reflecting this clarification soon!

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    do you know when you can have moneybookers or neteller?

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