Hate to say it but BetIslands kinda dropped the ball today.

[Betislands]

Hi Mbenz,

Glad you are happy with our CS and that we pay , I can def say we will not be having overnight Sundays since we close our week for Betislands and other players.

My answer is not maybe ,maybe not my answer is people " demand " overnight lines and even insult Betislands and I look at the chart and it does not translate.

If we choose to pull the overnight all together I will let you guys know in advance. Like I said we do our best to be a major out for American players but no book is perfect like I say and have said before.. you play with us you get paid in a shop that values your business will we offer every single prop out there ?.. no...will we pull our overnight lines? .. maybe if we do not get enough volume I see no reason.

I have said it many times I am not trying to be PINNY , we are a solid outfit for mainstream USA sports we cannot offer what everybody else offers and give away a dimeline , free half points and 100% bonuses or we would be out of business.

Thanks for understanding!

Jon

[Betislands]

LOL . Non of us likes to take an early line and find value . Jon why are you bull shiting us ?
No reason ? LOL
BOL .

Vitalyo that is correct and like I stated before , we will always do our best to cater to everyone but if we choose to drop the overnight lines you will be informed.

I have no reason to lie , if we were scared to book we would not be here today we would not put them up at all I am just stating facts.

Cheers!

Jon

[BigDaddy]

MBENZ

is MLB a strong sport for you?

[MBENZ]

MBENZ

is MLB a strong sport for you?

Not so far this year but what does that have to do with the subject at hand?

[Fitz030808]

I've had a good experience at BI and was paid out promptly. I do, however, have the need to be able to play overnight lines. With this feature being gone and software problems, I decided to play elsewhere for the time being. Great book, great CS, but going through a transition. Best of luck to them in the future.

[BigDaddy]

Not so far this year but what does that have to do with the subject at hand?

i was just curios is all

didn't mean to derail the thread

it seemed jon answered the question already.

sorry

[BigDaddy]

now look at this post from someone on another forum

Co80002

"They have had bigtime problems with the move. I know they are no longer using Jazz for wagering. Which has limited what lines they offer, which is now way less than before."


it amazes me how these people have no clue (it's usually the ones who dont even ******* bet at these books.)

they now offer more lines than they ever did

******* clueless.

[Parlayking11]

LOL . Non of us likes to take an early line and find value . Jon why are you bull shiting us ?
No reason ? LOL
BOL .

Stop being an asshole! I dont see any other GM's on SBR as much as Jon answering virtually evey question. That gets asked. BI is top notch and if you don't agree it means you probably don't even play there and you are just bashing to be an asshole! If you want overnight lines, shitty customer service and management t that could care less whether or not you are a good regular customer go to 5 dimes and be treated like shit! Other than that stop trolling on here!

[vitalyo]

Stop being an asshole! I dont see any other GM's on SBR as much as Jon answering virtually evey question. That gets asked. BI is top notch and if you don't agree it means you probably don't even play there and you are just bashing to be an asshole! If you Pwant overnight lines, shitty customer service and management t that could care less whether or not you are a good regular customer go to 5 dimes and be treated like shit! Other than that stop trolling on here!

Dude you need to stop gambling ! Overnight lines are free Money, it is better then any bonus nor costumer service . I have been gambling for over 12 years and never been treated like shit , I can see why you bums get shit from guys like Tony,you eather shot takers or freebie riders that cry for $25 fee play.So go @@@k your self .

[danrockwood22]

they are a legit book nick and jon are good guys the new software has been frustrating but overall they are a real good book. When the worst complaint people have is no overnight lines you know your doing something right.

[evo34]

Hi Mbenz,

Glad you are happy with our CS and that we pay , I can def say we will not be having overnight Sundays since we close our week for Betislands and other players.

My answer is not maybe ,maybe not my answer is people " demand " overnight lines and even insult Betislands and I look at the chart and it does not translate.

If we choose to pull the overnight all together I will let you guys know in advance. Like I said we do our best to be a major out for American players but no book is perfect like I say and have said before.. you play with us you get paid in a shop that values your business will we offer every single prop out there ?.. no...will we pull our overnight lines? .. maybe if we do not get enough volume I see no reason.

I have said it many times I am not trying to be PINNY , we are a solid outfit for mainstream USA sports we cannot offer what everybody else offers and give away a dimeline , free half points and 100% bonuses or we would be out of business.

Thanks for understanding!

Jon

Not sure I've ever heard a more pussy answer. A "solid outfit" does not have to call itself a "solid outfit." Nor does it waffle on whether or not to offer overnight lines. Nor does it try to cheat players by rounding all odds to the house advantage. Nor does it deal dual lines to winning players. What a joke.

[taxer]

they are a legit book nick and jon are good guys the new software has been frustrating but overall they are a real good book. When the worst complaint people have is no overnight lines you know your doing something right.

this

[Parlayking11]

Dude you need to stop gambling ! Overnight lines are free Money, it is better then any bonus nor costumer service . I have been gambling for over 12 years and never been treated like shit , I can see why you bums get shit from guys like Tony,you eather shot takers or freebie riders that cry for $25 fee play.So go @@@k your self .

You're nothing but a fukking jack off troll!! There are many of us that appreciate what BI is doing and are happy with their offerings... Go take your 12 years of "gambling experience" which really means 12 years of losing and go back to your shitty sportsbook, which is probably 5dimes or Bovada, and finish rubbing one out to your pictures of Tony and Bodog Becky you worthless ball sack....

[zoo youk]

added some more money to my account yesterday took advantage of the 35% cash bonus, and last night they had mlb lines up at midnight. so all is well.

[vitalyo]

You're nothing but a fukking jack off troll!! There are many of us that appreciate what BI is doing and are happy with their offerings... Go take your 12 years of "gambling experience" which really means 12 years of losing and go back to your shitty sportsbook, which is probably 5dimes or Bovada, and finish rubbing one out to your pictures of Tony and Bodog Becky you worthless ball sack....

What's wrong with you ? Why are so angry ? I believe you miss the point, so let me break it down for you MBENZ want's to place a bet at any time lines are available and not to wait till noon/ till the value is gone. Then the owner comes in and makes a premature statement

I come in the next day there is practically no reason to have them up when the volume is not there.

No reason . Same no reason books have lower limits on overnight lines ? They doing it just for fun . So if someone wants to make a large wager on particular game he needs to spread out his action with the # of books .And if BI posts the lines whenever they feel like his money with them are useless . What's with BI software, does it only work in the morning ? They can't cut and paste and slush/juice the lines off pinny ? Sure they can. My guess with a bonuses they give + plus the sharp action they get , things are not that shiny bright .We seen other books run in in to the same problem .
Even the small time gambler will give/turn around 20k a year in wagers. By finding a value of 5cents or half a point that would save him at least $1000 . Now that's a small time gambler.
The best bonus is to be able to wager at any time and with a best lines . I am not saying Jon is a bad guy , don't forget the only reason he is here is to promote his book ! Nothing else.
It's us against them and i don't care of how nice of the people they are . I'll take a bet with BI pinny 5dimes bodog and so on as long as i get the best price available. MBENZ has a legit complain
And the best costumer service is when you don't have to call them at all !Never had to call betfair , pinny 188bet and 20 others. Why did you assume i am in the States ?

Good luck to you .

[bobbywaves]

Good book, but all is not well....BI lines are not posting at all now on SBR odds, & when the odds are posted on SBR they're always inaccurate. That's a big problem for me & I'm sure others, as I use many books & shop for the best price.

[taxer]

Sbr needs to correct the feed

[moocow]

It is 8:30 AM EST and still no MLB lines for today games. If there are no more overnight is there at least a set time in the morning when lines will go up?

[Sam Odom]

It is 8:30 AM EST and still no MLB lines for today games. If there are no more overnight is there at least a set time in the morning when lines will go up?

That is their biz model... OTOH , call Tony at 5Dimes and see if he will give you 25% bonus today

BTW-- 5Dimes had over-nites up before I went to bed last night

[fedex11204]

Why has Betislands been removed from the sbrlines page

Did they not pay their bills?

[NSN21]

Can't say for sure but their lines have been inaccurate and sometimes have shown on SBR Odds even when BI did not have them posted, so I'm guessing they just took it down for now until they fix the issue.

[BigDaddy]

to stop dummies from bitching

[Betislands]

What's wrong with you ? Why are so angry ? I believe you miss the point, so let me break it down for you MBENZ want's to place a bet at any time lines are available and not to wait till noon/ till the value is gone. Then the owner comes in and makes a premature statement No reason . Same no reason books have lower limits on overnight lines ? They doing it just for fun . So if someone wants to make a large wager on particular game he needs to spread out his action with the # of books .And if BI posts the lines whenever they feel like his money with them are useless . What's with BI software, does it only work in the morning ? They can't cut and paste and slush/juice the lines off pinny ? Sure they can. My guess with a bonuses they give + plus the sharp action they get , things are not that shiny bright .We seen other books run in in to the same problem .
Even the small time gambler will give/turn around 20k a year in wagers. By finding a value of 5cents or half a point that would save him at least $1000 . Now that's a small time gambler.
The best bonus is to be able to wager at any time and with a best lines . I am not saying Jon is a bad guy , don't forget the only reason he is here is to promote his book ! Nothing else.
It's us against them and i don't care of how nice of the people they are . I'll take a bet with BI pinny 5dimes bodog and so on as long as i get the best price available. MBENZ has a legit complain
And the best costumer service is when you don't have to call them at all !Never had to call betfair , pinny 188bet and 20 others. Why did you assume i am in the States ?

Good luck to you .

Hi Vitalyo,

You are correct I am here to promote my book , with our own business model just because we choose not to deal overnight lines does not make us a bad book it may not make us the book for everyone but then again which book is ?

Point is this is what we offer :

Fastest payouts arounds , good service , good bonuses and we try and handle any issues with clients the best we can. I am here on a daily trying to rectify any issues but I keep having to sell people that we are a good shop despite the fact that nobody has ever not gotten paid , everyone gets treated like a VIP . Now correct me if I am wrong but that does not sound bad to me , I apologize if I am taking away from clients by not putting up overnight lines at all times but would you ask Pinny to offer you an MLB dimeline with a 100% freeplay bonus? NO because it is not their business model.

That is our business model and we are sticking to it , Betislands will continue to pay the fastest , always doing their best to provide good service , good bonuses.

Cheers!

Jon

[paco]

Betislands A+ book.

Must have book.

[Bill Dozer]

Can't say for sure but their lines have been inaccurate and sometimes have shown on SBR Odds even when BI did not have them posted, so I'm guessing they just took it down for now until they fix the issue.

Right. Update coming shortly.

[losemyloot]

They deal dual lines so they don't know which ones to show. (just a joke people)

[Betislands]

Hi guys,

We hope this issue will be solved soon.

Cheers!

Jon

[sharpcat]

They copied Jazz lines before and I am guessing they are now copying their lines from someone else.

[edawg]

BI is a good book! Are they perfect no,and every book has strengths and weaknesses. The bottom line I always go by is if they offer fair lines and pay you your winnings which BI does.

[evo34]

Hi Vitalyo,



That is our business model and we are sticking to it , Betislands will continue to pay the fastest , always doing their best to provide good service , good bonuses.

Cheers!

Jon

You're "sticking to" your business model? Then why does it change every week? You used to offer overnights, stopped, then brought them back for a couple days, then got rid of them. No announcements, no explanations...until called out on the forum. None of this has the smell of a sportsbook headed in the right direction. People are complaining that you are changing policies on a whim. Why? Beacuse it's a bitch to move money around. If you had said upfront when you launched: "we're going to be a mickey mouse shop who may or may not choose to offer overnight lines on certain random days of the week, if at all" the people who are complaining now wouldn't be, because they would never have funded accounts at BI.

[5mike5]

[Betislands]

You're "sticking to" your business model? Then why does it change every week? You used to offer overnights, stopped, then brought them back for a couple days, then got rid of them. No announcements, no explanations...until called out on the forum. None of this has the smell of a sportsbook headed in the right direction. People are complaining that you are changing policies on a whim. Why? Beacuse it's a bitch to move money around. If you had said upfront when you launched: "we're going to be a mickey mouse shop who may or may not choose to offer overnight lines on certain random days of the week, if at all" the people who are complaining now wouldn't be, because they would never have funded accounts at BI.

Again,

What policies are changing every week ? The lines have been up every night but Sunday. so now if we did not offer overnight lines means a sportsbook is not headed in the right direction?

Evo , talk to me about Betislands when you see a payout complaint.. or a customer not treated right it is pretty clear you have an agenda which is something I can deal with. As far as the Mickey mouse shop comment well if same day payouts , checks in 3 working days , good service makes us a Mickey Mouse shop , I want to be Disney Land.

I take care of everyone that plays at BI , now people can come on here and try and twist my words .. turn small complaints into large one or call us a " joke " or like you a Mickey shop because we did not have overnight lines one night in the end , people that play with us know why they play with us because they know they are going to get paid , get a nice bonus and treated decent.

And again like I have always said to posters if anyone has an issue just PM , and we will see what we can do for you.


CHEERS !

Jon

[HedgeHog]

I tend to agree with Jon. Payouts are top priority for me and BI is A+ in that area. As far as betting options, they can't be all things to all people all the time. For that reason, you need additional Books if, for example, overnight lines, are a must. Similarly, I play horses elsewhere because this also isn't a BI strong point. That said, there are plenty of other betting options at BI that still make them a necessary out.

[secretstash]

I tend to agree with Jon. Payouts are top priority for me and BI is A+ in that area. As far as betting options, they can't be all things to all people all the time. For that reason, you need additional Books if, for example, overnight lines, are a must. Similarly, I play horses elsewhere because this also isn't a BI strong point. That said, there are plenty of other betting options at BI that still make them a necessary out.

well said hedge.

I agree that BI has had some growing pains changing into their new form.. and they are still not done obviously which is what Jon has said.. they will continue to grow and continue to offer the players more options day in and out. but with evolving toward players needs comes change time and adjustments that need to be made. Jon has listened to ur wishes and hopes for the book in the past and that is why he made the move I am sure.. now he hears more things like overnight lines and such, which are not a strong point of betislands but maybe in the future they will grow into that for the player. Right now I am not concerned with betting a game 12 hrs+ before it starts.. but that is just me. I also dont bet at 5dimes because the customer service there is horrific.. and I tend to like customer service and getting used to one group more than anything.

bottom line is - give it time and betislands will adjust just like they have so far.. and they will continue to grow for the player and they will have their own positives and advantages just as they have had already.. making a name for themselves through payout speed, trustworthiness, and customer service minded hospitality.

As always I suggest u call Jon, email him, or pm him and I am sure he will put in even an extra effort to solve any of ur problems or concerns.. its nice enough of him to post on the board practically every day.. what other book even attempts this?



-stash

[Easy-Rider 66]

I signed up to BI, but never deposited. They just do not offer what 5 dimes does as far as options and solid racebook. Having said that, I beleive BI to be a solid book. What other manager addresses questions daily on the forum like Jon does. Never heard of a payout complaint and the CS seems excellent. If they ever improve their options and racebook, I would not hesitate to switch.