Do Good Sportsbooks Really Limit/Ban People Just For Winning?

**Easy-Rider 66** · 06-06-12, 11:07 PM

**dww123** · 06-06-12, 11:12 PM

No. Most people on this forum will say yes as it will give the illusion they are winning gamblers. The reality is the opposite. Your assumption is correct. Limiting a winning gambler is just handcuffing themselves from potentially getting there money back.

**Emily_Haines** · 06-06-12, 11:21 PM

Yes, Heritage kicked me out for winning a small amount

**TheShookOnes** · 06-06-12, 11:28 PM

Originally posted by dww123

No. Most people on this forum will say yes as it will give the illusion they are winning gamblers. The reality is the opposite. Your assumption is correct. Limiting a winning gambler is just handcuffing themselves from potentially getting there money back.

That's what I always figured. It makes absolutely no sense to ban winners because lots of people hit cold streaks eventually. Plus for every dollar a winner makes, isn't there somebody who is also losing because Vegas hits 50% against the spread and cleans up on juice? Why would they care about 1 person winning money when there is somebody who is also losing at the same time?

**bookie** · 06-07-12, 12:16 AM

Originally posted by TheShookOnes

Why would they care about 1 person winning money when there is somebody who is also losing at the same time?

Because the idea that they have balanced action on games is a myth.

If you are betting full game lines of major sports, and not consistently betting them early and have the line go your way, then your assumption that their assumption is that you'll hit a cold streak is right. But if you are beating numbers half the time and betting lots of parts of games, props, and minor sports they'll toss you if you're doing a lot of damage.

**goblue12** · 06-07-12, 01:21 AM

It depends on how ced player got the pot of gold.

I'm sure Tony has no problem taking bets from some donk who happened to run hot betting favorites and overs in NBA.

But if he's steam chasing him in Argentine soccer, he probably doesn't want to book his action very long.

**allin1** · 06-07-12, 05:37 AM

Originally posted by dww123

No. Most people on this forum will say yes as it will give the illusion they are winning gamblers. The reality is the opposite. Your assumption is correct. Limiting a winning gambler is just handcuffing themselves from potentially getting there money back.

square books don't limit winning players. they limit the ones that give the impression they might be sharp. they don't limit players that win from parlays or any other bets that are taken at odds below market price. they would limit a player that hits only off market numbers even if his bets are losers.

**djefferis** · 06-07-12, 08:28 AM

All depends on what your beating them at and how badly.

A person playing juice heavy matchups might get a pass, but playing low juice non major sports will get you booted, especially with big bets.

NFL/NCAA major teams/NBA a good book allows sharp action, because it tells them where to shade a line. Not foolproof, but long term it helps improve profits. Think of it this way, if a tout was picking 78% winners, and paying you to take his picks, wouldn't you tail him?

Take the opponent of the team your sharp likes, shade the line from -110 to -105 and you'll get the action you want.

**cloudagh** · 06-07-12, 09:26 AM

Never heard of anybody making it to $50,000 with 5Dimes. Most would say they are limited and delayed before they would reach $10,000 in net

**TheShookOnes** · 06-07-12, 10:08 AM

Originally posted by cloudagh

Never heard of anybody making it to $50,000 with 5Dimes. Most would say they are limited and delayed before they would reach $10,000 in net

A guy on another site I post at made 20-25 grand in just a couple months at 5 dimes. He had pictures to prove it too. If these sites allow 10-40 grand bets on 1 play, that means they're messing around with probably millions and millions or even 10s and millions of dollars. Why in the world would they care about 1 guy making 40 grand when they have a 100 guys losing 40 grand?

**djefferis** · 06-07-12, 10:35 AM

....yes, because a screenshot is indisputable proof of something and no one has ever lied in a gambling forum.

Sure, they "allow" 10k wagers, but try getting 5 or 6 in without being profiled. 5d's will allow half of that and if your betting patterns indicate a problem, show you the door (but they will pay, unlike others). Keep in mind this 5k limit is a major us sport. Try betting 10k on WNBA team totals sometime.

**TheShookOnes** · 06-07-12, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by djefferis

....yes, because a screenshot is indisputable proof of something and no one has ever lied in a gambling forum.Sure, they "allow" 10k wagers, but try getting 5 or 6 in without being profiled. 5d's will allow half of that and if your betting patterns indicate a problem, show you the door (but they will pay, unlike others). Keep in mind this 5k limit is a major us sport. Try betting 10k on WNBA team totals sometime.

Well, the smart thing really is to have 5-10 different sports books and try to win 10-20 grand off each one. Books like bookmaker, heritage, betdsi aren't going to give a sh*t about some dude making 15 grand in a year when they're probably bringing in millions each month

**djefferis** · 06-07-12, 11:15 AM

Find me 10 books who take us customers whom you would trust with 50k each.

Can't find 5 myself that would take 5k or more in bets.

**djefferis** · 06-07-12, 11:20 AM

BTW my list:

Heritage
5d's
Crisis/bookmaker

Legends, but think they Max at 3k
Blackies Private book mabeye, Rebatewager caps @2500.

Betislands mabeye not sure of their Max wager. I know golf/props Max at 100 at times, pure rec book.

**TheShookOnes** · 06-07-12, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by djefferis

BTW my list:Heritage5d'sCrisis/bookmakerLegends, but think they Max at 3kBlackies Private book mabeye, Rebatewager caps @2500.Betislands mabeye not sure of their Max wager. I know golf/props Max at 100 at times, pure rec book.

I was talking about making 10-20 grand a year. You can do that with even a 500 dollar max at any decent B or A book

**frescaso** · 06-08-12, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by TheShookOnes

Let's say you make 50,000 dollars in a year at 5 dimes, would they really ban you or limit you just for that? I always assumed that sportsbooks want people to bet and bet and bet because they assume that everybody always hits a cold streak and will lose everything they earned. Is there any truth to people being banned at B and A books just for winning?

Absolutely! everyday I guarantee it!

**LordVodka** · 06-08-12, 03:57 PM

I've heard from SBR mods that they know for a fact that there are big bettors that can win up to $400,000 a month at 5dimes and they don't get kicked out.

**top310** · 06-08-12, 04:23 PM

I ran my bookmaker account to about 95k in a month... no problems or nothing

**relaaxx** · 06-08-12, 05:35 PM

Do Good Sportsbooks Really Limit/Ban People Just For Winning

good and bad sportsbooks mostly do what they want. they write the rules and change them when they want to protect themselves from everything and anyone that they think is not giving them the advantage they feel they deserve. you trust them with your money and even more important, your information. they on the other hand trust noone. you take all the risk. -------------that said------------- they have no other choice. too many assholes in the world , gamblers or not..

**caveira** · 06-08-12, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by allin1

square books don't limit winning players. they limit the ones that give the impression they might be sharp. they don't limit players that win from parlays or any other bets that are taken at odds below market price. they would limit a player that hits only off market numbers even if his bets are losers.

Perfect! No more need to be said here.

**hougigo** · 06-09-12, 01:09 PM

What?
Really?
I'm using them right now....